Which parent does Smithy forsake - Iron Maiden Vs Judas Priest

choose!

Priest conquers all.

― EZ Snappin, Monday, 28 February 2011 15:15

The mystery of my decision is, I believe, solved.

i'm basically waiting on a Blaze vs Ripper poll so someone can post the videos to Virus and FutureaLOL

are we choosing the better of the two, or the one we'd forsake?

best

and whoever loses, smithy has to remove from his collection

A good job he didn't actually poll his parents then.

if he did his folks would be listening to the poll losers records in the garage where hes putting them.

Surprised this hasnt been done before. It's kind of like the Son of Sabbath v. Zeppelin.

Maiden.

If I had done a do not like either option how many heads would have exploded when it won?

remember all the votes for do not like in the zep and sabbath albums poll?

and the SB massacre afterwards...

not really, noone admitted to voting they didnt like them

Y'know I narrowly give the edge to Priest, w/reservations. At their best, they were one of a kind. "Sinner", "Exciter", live version of "Victim of Changes"..."Painkiller"...sure Robby was spotty live and Bruce wasn't, but on record, when Priest wanted to rock, the house came down.

Maiden are Gods too, but...I can't stop thinking about "Delivering the Goods" with a grin on my face right now.

poor iron maiden will just never win a poll on ILM

Iron Maiden vs. Minnesota

this is tough. my first instinct is maiden. but it's maiden over priest from a sheer musicianship standpoint. I'm a di'anno guy who can't stand dickinson, which means voting for maiden on the basis of 2.5 albums and then ignoring a lot of vocals going forward.

priest invented modern metal on sad wings of destiny and were still able to grok speedmetal on painkiller, so they have a more varied and flexible discog. maiden is like hardened steel that breaks before it bends, too strapped to the tanktread to pull off the luxurious sprawl of something like 3:10 - 5:30 here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPmO-tUuN2Y

then again, I listen to a lot more maiden that priest. there's a lotta fat in the priest discog, whole albums I have no use for, whereas maiden is solid from the debut to powerslave at least.

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priest wins, for doing more and better.

stained class, sin after sin, etc are so epic and evil

better pop instincts, wrote amazing anthems, u cannot fuck w/british steel or screaming for vengeance or defenders of the faith

great guitarists, super melodic leads

halford is so fascinating compared to bruce and steve harris, who seem like history channel dorks at their core.

priest's image was so fucking amazing, gay bondage a go go

i love turbo, they did the best synth pop/metal move ever.

painkiller was a pretty great attempt to match the intensity of thrash

when i was a kid my friend ben's older brother gave us a tape of defenders of the faith, it all seemed like music made by superheroes

"Music made by superheroes" is a pretty great way to describe Priest from '82-'90 (yes I will rep for Ram It Down). I've said this before: Priest has better albums, but Maiden kills everyone live. There's no live act in metal better than Iron Maiden, full stop.

maiden

ppl don't like ram it down? i like that but i was sort of uncritical of metal at that stage of my life.

iron maiden is and was a great band.

Priest because 'Sad Wings' is one of the best albums ever made by humans.

Damn now this is taking sides! I don't want to do it. But I will.

goin with Maiden here, I guess mostly on the basis that I prefer Dickinson's history-geek schtick to Halford's leather-cop schtick

Loved both bands for a long, long time, but I'll always choose Maiden.

i'd say they have equally high highs, but priest have had more crappy lows plus embarrassing attempts to stay on trend. so Maiden.

Don't let Maiden off the hook for 1990-2000

goin with Maiden here, I guess mostly on the basis that I prefer Dickinson's history-geek schtick to Halford's leather-cop schtick

― ice cr?m's world of female people (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, February 28, 2011 2:14 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Agreed. Plus the Di'Anno albums kick ass.

is this where i make a "gay dad" joke about Judas Priest?

no

try over here

most homoerotico line in judas priest's "the ripper"

Take away Priest, and there's no Maiden. Also, Priest has more good records and a better singer.

I love Maiden but I love Priest WAY more.

i dunno about better singer, Halford's bleatyness was often way more grating than Dickinson (even though I love both).

also had many bootlegs of Priest shows without overdubs where he flat out had major pitch problems and sang off key on most of the songs. (and then again I've heard good bootlegs too so he seemed to be inconsistent)

really when it came down to a vote I went with Maiden pretty quickly, even though the harsher, more metal-in-the-sense-of-what-I-like-about-metal vibe of Priest is kinda more in tune with my general tastes. but with Maiden I essentially get two bands - Di'Anno and his awesome late-Hawkwind street toughs & then historical-narrative geek Bruce and those gorgeous riffs. Priest has great riffs too but I must say from a tone standpoint I like Smith/Murray's sound better than Tipton/Downing's. Plus Steve Harris, that guy is a monster, it's pretty rare outside of prog-metal like Atheist that I'm really taken with a metal bassist but Harris writes elegant, rolling liquid lines that really do the job for me.

I think Priest is important in a lot of ways to the culture of metal, but that Maiden is musically superior at the end of the day. that said, I am bumping Screaming for Vengeance because of this thread.

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Iron Maiden vs. Minnesota

omg! please someone do this poll!

IRON MAIDEN VS MINNESOTA

This is kind of an asshole thing to say, but I actually like The Wicker Man more than any Priest song I've ever heard.

this one reminds me of the sabbath vs. zep thread. priest have more range, no doubt about it. contrasting sad wings with painkiller really just blows my mind. so different, recorded so many years apart, and still some of the absolute best records in their respective niches. they can do it all and they could do it all WELL. they're zeppelin.

maiden are much more focused on perfecting their one thing. sure, you have the di'anno records. rawer, more thin lizzy. but still of a piece with the dickenson material for sure. there's a single-mindedness and consistency to maiden and that's a trait I find I appreciate more and more with time. they play with the parameters of what they do so that things don't get stale but they're always maiden. always striving to perfect that sound that nobody else can do better. they're sabbath.

it's really close but I have to give it up to maiden here. plus, as as a bassist, I kind of have to go with them!

If Priest had only ever released Sad Wings of Destiny I would still be choosing them over Iron Maiden. The fact that I also adore almost everything up through Screaming For Vengeance is a bonus. The guitar sound on the first three albums is awesome.

I have to give major props to the Di'Anno-era Maiden, though, because I really love the first two albums. The Number of the Beast is a pretty solid record, and I still like bits and pieces of the next three studio LPs, but then Maiden kinda lost me. They certainly didn't stay interesting for as long as Judas Priest. That said, based on footage I've seen recently, Maiden still really bring it in Charlie Sheen-type proportions in concert and Bruce Dickinson's range is still incredibly impressive - he can't squeal like he used to, but the songs still seem to be in the same key, and he still is energetic and entertaining to watch. Priest & Halford on the other hand...

But anyway, yeah, Priest FTW!

This is sooooo tough. As a kid I got into Maiden first-Eddie sucked me in with his menising holding of a devil marianette... I had a Maiden t-shirt for everyday of the week when I was in 6th grade.. In fact even now, I have a Maiden belt buckle and two pairs of Maiden Vans...

Buit Priest... Even though they ran a guantlet of musical styles, and nailing every one of them, they've held the metal flag truer and higher than anyone else... And Glen Typton is a monster guitarist-he doesn't do it much, but he can shred with the best of them-I mean upper crust shredding a la Vai and Holdsworth(the solos on Painkiller are AMAZING!)

Both bands have done goofy shit, and both bands have classic records, with amazing musicianship and vocals.. GODAMN this is HARD!!!

I have to go with Maiden, Eddeie tips the scale!!!

I agree with Kent Burt on almost everything.

Priest had four eras that I absolutely loved for different reasons:

The early stuff when they were finding their lot in life. THey boogied, they stole from Queen and Zep and Sabbath and other classic rock acts and such thievery, although it would continue through Sin After Sin, climaxed with Sad Wings, one of the best albums ever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOOJv_J233Q

Then came the real metal! Their majestic metal sound redefined what metal was and would become, inspiring the NWOBHM (and everything that the New Wave itself inspired) in the process:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3AT3_4RY3c

The Commercial Years saw Priest taking the previous metallic innovation and making it sheen for the masses. Some may feel this is just an extension of the previous era, but I think there's a subtle but palpable difference between the above and this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il1etwBDCIs

There was a fourth era that would come after the maligned duo of Turbo and Ram It Down (though I like enough of Turbo, I understand why others do not), when Pantera toured with the Priest and the stalwarts reinvented the steel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM__lPTWThU

There are duds in there too, of course. The Ripper albums were mostly derivative of Painkiller and I never much listen to Point Of Entry (considered a Turbo-esque failure years before that one came out).

Still, it is difficult for me to imagine a group with four periods offering disstinctive differences and I still go back and listen to albums from all of those eras.

Whereas Maiden, as much as I love them (and I do!), I adore the early years with Dianno very much. In fact this is my favorite song by the band (and really, wouldn't Darby Crash look as good in that leather jacket as Paul?):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6Ol-_nEEAQ&feature=related

Then Bruce came in and sure, they reedefinied metal as well. The run of albums from Number Of The Beast through (most of) Somewhere In Time has a lot of quality. And I am of the age where I played "Ancient Mariner" to a very confused English class when we read the poem.

However aside from a song or two on Seventh Son, Maiden has done virtually nothing for me ever since.

I am kinda stunned that Judas Priest covered a Joan Baez song

it's a great cover!

what's funny is that I heard priest's version before I ever heard the original and subsequently wondered why baez was covering priest

Yes it is. For years I didn't know it was a cover! Same with Green Manalishi too for that matter...

this was way easier than i would have thought - priest with minimal hesitation

maybe a new thread... songs you didn't know were covers.

im sure there will be one already

"Diamonds And Rust" is one of my favourite Priest songs. I prefer the early version first released on Gull's Best Of Judas Priest compilation more than the re-recording from Sin After Sin.

Point Of Entry is definitely a weak album, though "Solar Angels" is awesome - also fond of "Desert Plains" and "Heading out to The Highway."

glad at least someone else loves Turbo! such a fun album. selling out is kool sometimes, all their neat-o space Roland guitars and ridic clothing

point of entry rules

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Priest was robbed.

they got a lotta votes!

But not enough, damn it!

I'm surprised this poll got 46 voters, to be honest.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/camisa10.jpg

I don't think I could cry over either result. There are no losers in this poll.

(That's reserved for the Moonspell-Cradle of Filth poll)

Isn't the band with the highest number of votes the one that gets forsaken?

No

are we choosing the better of the two, or the one we'd forsake?

― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Monday, 28 February 2011 16:19 (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

best

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 28 February 2011 16:19 (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

and whoever loses, smithy has to remove from his collection

― Algerian Goalkeeper,

Pfew, then I voted correctly :-)

Maiden! Maiden! Maiden!

lol umm I don't think random caprices people come up with when making polls are binding - if they are though whoever posts after me has to give me a million dollars & invent a flying car

I own so much competing merch by these two bands - I'll decide who I like better that way.

IRON MAIDEN

about 3 different Eddie action figures
about 5 shirts
a tankard
an Eddie funko Pop
wallet (though it just finally fell apart)

JUDAS PRIEST

picks
necklace (of that pitchfork thingy)
wallet (replacing the Maiden one)
4 or 5 shirts
a hoodie

I guess Priest wins?

i would kill if after this pandemic ends they somehow do a tour together

weirdly though Maiden has the better live albums, though Priest has THE best live album of the two of them

Priest's 76-80 recordings are some of my favourite metal records, but I don't know why Iron Maiden leaves me cold. I've heard their first 3 records plus a compilation, and nothing but "Wasted Years" has appealed to me. Harris's writing and Dickinson's voice remind me of Peter Hammill, too, but to no avail. I do know that I hate the loud, trebly, finger-plucked bass though.
Part of it may be that I just don't enjoy much post-1980 metal, only Voivod and some Celtic Frost have got through to me in a big way.

have priest and maiden ever done a joint tour? seems like a license to print money

http://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/1/0308/13/judas-priest-iron-maiden-whitesnake-ticket-stubs_1_e3506dd44c37abeedc48240be3820bd7.jpg

They toured together in 1980 but it almost didn't happen when Paul Di'Anno said in an interview "We're Gonna Blow Their Bollocks Off" and K.K. Downing read it.

He wanted to replace them: "Who the fuck are this lot? I'm just there thinking there are so many bands that would be grateful for the tour. Why should we give it to these bands if that's their attitude? But that's a big statement to make. And it didn't happen, that's for sure! It didn't happen, it just created an atmosphere."

Neat piece about their rivalry that extended despite that - and a couple other tours in the early days:
http://metalinjection.net/editorials/back-in-the-day/reliving-the-old-school-rivalry-between-iron-maiden-and-judas-priest-were-gonna-blow-their-bullocks-off