So I want to make a playlist of Irish music for St. Patty's that has stuff like The Pogues...

but don't know much about it outside of, you know, The Pogues. Suggestions would be appreciated, whether it's bands or songs.

The Pogues

Despite being an England-based band, My Bloody Valentine is mostly Irish.

That doesn't help.

Well Kate Bush, English as regarded, is Irish by blood and has this really excellent song on Hounds of Love that prolly goes with ur theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ3q6MNbaXY

^listen to the whole song, some really thrilling percussion in there

I'm not even Irish, but my god it's St. PADDY'S...not St. Patty's.

Thin Lizzy - Emerald

No it doesn't sound all Irish-y, but it is great.

u might like a band called u2

they sing that one song

dont u want like horslips and clannad and shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5G8AJf4Xzw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNVTUh5yviI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPJD3qcIL7s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0SpwEdU5ak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_-Hpb0I_bE

Charlie AKA the Sheendriver

uhm wrong thread oops

PADDY'S

BIG PADDY AKA THE SNAKEDRIVER

kirsty mccoll - some strident tunes amongst her repertoire

The Men They Couldn't Hang - Ironmasters
Thin Lizzy - Whiskey In The Jar

Not recommending any of these on musical merit, but as the sound of Ireland on the piss, these are unavoidable:

The Sawdoctors - I Used to Love Her, N17

Steve Earle or Mundy or anyone else - Galway Girl.

Christy Moore - Lisdoonvarna

Well Kate Bush, English as regarded, is Irish by blood

http://991.com/newGallery/Morrissey-Irish-Blood-Engli-280158.jpg

lol i was gonna post galway girl

I'm not even Irish, but my god it's St. PADDY'S...not St. Patty's.

A thousand times this. I do hear Canadians/Americans say Patty's a lot though

Patty is a woman's name

Even Patsy is more appropriate than Patty!

Packie ftw

http://www.carolynis.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/PackieBonnerSave.jpg

^ Packie ftw

the tossers, the mahones....etc.

Put 'Em Under Pressure - Ireland 1990 World Cup squad

* unlike many bands mentioned above, is actually Irish
* features a 300 year old riff
* "Fuck Schillaci"
* etc

Also, Stephen Stapleton lives in Clare. So you could play some Nurse With Wound. On that note, Aphex Twin was born in Limerick.

On that basis you could include Dead can Dance (Brendan Perry lives in Cavan) and the Stones post-'75 (Ronnie Wood - Kildare).....

Donovan lives in Cork, i think. Oh and Joe Elliot is a fixture on the Dublin "celebrity" scene. The possibilities are endless really.

Play some Rory Gallagher.

(Brendan Perry lives in Cavan)

Read that differently and thought, "Yeah, he would live in a cave."

Pretty much the only trad-rock tune I f/w:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT_RGgFSN3M

can't believe no one has yet mentioned ilx critical darlings flogging molly + dropkick murpheys

Must you go there.

And how could I forget this????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29UMACdfyZw

if your grand parents where irish your not irish !!!! im irish .... as in me and all my family were born here and we're still here and my irish uncles live in america now but my cousins are nothing like irish people they wanna be paris hiltons who talk with american accents and know nothing about irish history so they are not irish ..... neither are you !!!!!!
YOUcanSTOPmeUfaggit 2 days ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBT4ZWy6Lm4

My Offaly-born-and-raised other half spends the week of St Patrick's day FUMING at the 'plastic' Irish in London. I think her problem is more to do with the idea that so many second and third generation Irish are representing the culture so badly, rather than the idea that they're representing it at all.

I dunno, plenty of first generation Irish people do a pretty decent job of representing our culture badly too.

When I was young I enjoyed going out and watching the parade of tractors, local shop floats and endless scouts. I don't think I've done anything for St. Patrick's Day in 10+ years.

Adebisi Shank.

I dunno, plenty of first generation Irish people do a pretty decent job of representing our culture badly too

This.

TBH, second/third gen Irish in Britain tend to be cool, taking pride when called for, but close enough to understand why their parents/ grandparents might have wanted to leave (and not just the economic reasons)and not going in for green beer and shillelagh waving. Not so much with the yanks.

I mean Dublin on Paddy's Day is like the seventh circle of hell. Also, now the idiots have the added excuse to go mental on "Arthur's Day" as well.

i've only encountered this in boston. irish pretty much anywhere else in the states, where it's all obv. gentrified, are pretty tame.

rubberbandits are like one of the only decent irish bands ever

What about Black 47? Throughout the 90s it seemed they played in NYC every weekend. Their "hit" was Maria's wedding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVgUZyKXjpE

House of Pain

LOL!

Try and get a recording of that embarrassing song "There is no one as Irish as Barack Obama".

They did another one for dave cameron.same tune.more embarrassing.

Divine Comedy, I mean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lul9aE91TEU

These are very corny but have a sort of celtic influence:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mlwl54r1FI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCAht19XC8Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV_bxfA5cyA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKbd_Ajkex0

Is there any hope of a genuine/general discussion of Irish music on this thread? Some stuff off the top of my head that I haven't really thought through (skewed a little towards the indie/rock end of things cos that's what I'm more familiar with):

Why is Irish music so bad? Population of the whole island is just over 6 million, compared to just over 5 million for Scotland. I think they're destroying us quality-wise overall quality. The filter of the local music press/scene seems poor - acts that get championed by Hot Press or acquire a local following usually get savaged when they're reviewed by a foreign critic who's not mates with the drummer's brother etc. Any bands with any kind of ambition (including people I know in Cold Patrol/Snowplay-type ripoff bands) sound nakedly commercial, intent on ridding their music of any tiny bit of edge, aiming for BBC Radio 2 territory before they've even played their first gig. I interviewed a bunch of interesting electronic acts for a student documentary thingy a few years ago and the opposite struck me, the defeatism of them all, as if the notion of any of them ever getting paid for anything was too laughable to contemplate.

Being in a band in Ireland is pretty expensive. You can record with Steve Albini for the price of a grotty little rehearsal room in Dublin. There is next to zilch music coming from working class areas. Any recentish bands I think of off the top of my head have gone to private schools/been from well to do areas eg Thrills (Blackrock), Director (Malahide), Coronas (Terenure) etc. Most Irish houses haven't got garages or basements to put drumkits in, and they adjoin other houses, so you can't play without getting complaints. All the drummers I've had in all the bands I've been in have either been from the middle of nowhere, or been really posh.

Jaysus, I'm having a right aul whinge. Oh well, no point stopping now.

When everybody else had the 60's, we had showbands playing Chubby Checkers covers in GAA halls while priests made sure couples weren't riding in the bushes outside. We got our first indie radio station 5 years ago (it was a pirate before then), and our first 'classic rock' station a few months ago.

Without wishing to align myself with the bogtrotting youtube twat quoted by seandalaí (archaeologist!) above, someone asked for Irish music and was mostly given a bunch of suggestions from American/Canadian/English bands. What is Irish music then? What would be an American's reaction if someone asked for American music and they were given Irish blues bands, Scandinavian jazz bands, and French rap? If I make a minimal techno album, is that more, or less Irish than an album by an American band full of diddly-iddly clichés?

It's not as bad as, say, 5 years ago, but still, why all the sensitive male singer songwriters? Vast herds of them still roam the central plains, much like the noble Giant Irish elk of old. How did 'paying your dues' for a while become synonymous with 'drinking afterhours with Glen Hansard in Whelans'? Why, goddammit, did we give David Gray a leg up to success?

Am I being too harsh?

john daly/ donnacha costello

but the typically irish stuff requested is not gonna be a rundown of the current irish scene, ecuador.

Btw, the dubliners, obviously. Anything, really, but muirseen durkin is prob the closest to the exact vibe needed, tho a week late.

I liked the frames, fwiw. Nothin earth shattering but great live and a good few anthems in there. Happy days. Bell x1 too. MOR indie is my thing i guess.

Mary Coughlan

chieftains, cheesy but effective for what's being sought.

Daniel o'donnell, sure. Authentic stuff.

People's music usually sucks when they think they have to be someone else.

Why is Irish music so bad?

The bulk of the pop/rock music produced anywhere is terrible. The fact that you've even articulated this question suggests that you buy in at some level to the myth of Irish exceptionalism. Is there any reason why our songwriting caste should in general be able to buck the law of averages and rise above the mediocrity of their international peers?

Why are Europeans still doing "pop /rock" music at all, have they ever been good at it? Even Americans are currently terrible at it, they just refuse to admit it.

Why is Irish music so bad?

It is, no question. But then why have 2g Irish people been so central to the story of British Rock and pop? Why is it impossible to imagine a Lydon, a Rowland, even a Morrissey, been able to make their mark in any version of the Dublin music scene I can remember? The same reason RTE didn't have the guts to make something as relatively tame as Father Ted? A country with a culture industry but no culture.

Ah, the old perennial...as has been pointed out we have decent form in the radio rock field, from U2 through the Frames up to Villagers. And besides the second-generationers in the UK there are also those who made their name abroad and don't really register as "Irish" with most people: half of MBV, Roisin Murphy, Sean O'Hagan...

Taking a look at my own music collection the Irish-Irish non-trad music I see is: a couple of Jimmy Cake releases, a Nine Wassies From Bainne album, a National Prayer Breakfast single and that's about it. Not sure whether that demonstrates anything though.

Do artists suffer from being based in Ireland? If say The Jimmy Cake or The Redneck Manifesto were British-based I'd be confident that I could mention them and a good few people on ILM would know what I'm talking about, but I don't know whether greater exposure would translate into any other kinds of success.

they were v indie & obviously enamored by the Smiths but the Would Be's wrote some great songs. and that trombone!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVEICZvdKwQ

ha the vocalist even has dancing morrissey steeze

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxBKgOyMzSc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rhpb_-QGPQ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa7birRBmNM

rubberbandits are like one of the only decent irish bands ever

New one is equal parts great and terrifying.

http://youtu.be/iYgPznBrjiA

yeah i love that. you never know what to expect with those guys.