Let's poll Collective Soul

Also, WTH IS THIS: "Perfect Day (ft Elton John)"

these are songs and not albums, right

because if there are this many Collective Soul albums, we might as well all just call it a day now

Oh yeah, these are commercially released singles.

taking bets on how long it takes xhuxk to show up and rave about "Gel"

First one in 1993, last one in 2010.

wait

Oh yeah, these are commercially released singles.

waht

wau

I kind of hate myself for loving this song, but I can still sleep at night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl0J0K-Tjlc

"Gel," easy -- really good hard rock single.

17 minutes!

xp Ha, just saw somedude's post -- guess it took 17 minutes? (I was eating lunch.)

is gel the one that's all like "turn yo head yo head now spit me Owwwwt!"?

Nah, that'd be "December," I think.

Yeah thats "December", "Gel" had a pretty cool riff iirc

I don't think I've heard a single one of these songs besides "Shine".

I don't remember any of these after The World I Know, which seems like it was their last grasp on mass recognition. Everything since then has just been for diehards (it's funny to think of Collective Soul having diehards).

bet these guys make bank on the state fair circuit

Youtube seems to lend some credence to your theory.

i vaguely remember hearing at least a couple of the post-"World I Know" singles (four went #1 on the mainstream rock chart!) but i'll be damned if i can remember how "Where The River Flows" or "Precious Declaration" goes

sadly i remember both :(

voting for "heavy" lol

December.

most of the rest of their boring music was pseudo-heavy 'rock' that just plodded aimlessly

"Run" was pretty big (theme from Varsity Blues, no?)

Not certain about "theme", but yeah, it was in that movie.

ppl w/ no horse in this race may be interested to know that 'smashing young man' is an anti-corgan diss track so you can think of it as the silverchair to 'range life's nirvana if you want. voted 'december' over 'shine', 'gel' running a somewhat distant third.

Has any non-Billy Corgan human ever made a pro-Corgan anthem?

I have an unreleased song called "Cherub Rock Rocks"

I once wrote a parody called "Despite All My Rage, I'm Actually in a Really Good Place Right Now".

I was looking for Corgan parity, not parody.

If this poll encourages Collective Soul in any way, a pox to whomever started it.

I once wrote a parody called "Despite All My Rage, I'm Actually in a Really Good Place Right Now".

Great! You've just been made an honorary member of Harvey Danger.

Collective Soul used to crack me up. I went onto Grooveshark to refresh my memory, thinking I'd recognize their first three or four hits instantaneously, but only "Shine" and the chorus to "The World I Know" registered. I wish I could say they were the Guess Who of their day, but they were more like the Stampeders. A must when somebody puts out a 22 Explosive Hits!-type compilation for the mid-'90s (I'm guessing somebody has by now, maybe even a few of them).

"Shine."

where the fuck is runaway train i wanted 2 vote 4 that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4dgUY6lsU4

the song is great, but the video is just way too generic and commercial... kinda makes the song look like it has no meaning...
Gusativo 1 month ago 4

never knew owen wilson was in a rock band

good poll imo.

i like shine well enough but it's a little stilted and unnatural. the world i know is a killer postgrunge ballad, i'm a big fan of that song. december is idiosyncratic and elegant. my inclination is to vote for it.

the production on shine and smashing young man and some of their other stuff is bizarre--it's so dry, and where is the bass?

lol in all my years of learning tacky 90s songs on guitar did i really not fuck with the "december" arpeggios?

yeah "Shine" is so stiff and tinny it's practically a MIDI

i feel like if they were allowed to actually be a rock band they had some potential--i'm listening to counting blue cars right now and say what you want about dishwalla but they did sound like 4 guys playing music.

haha wait what is even the connection between those two thoughts

not rly on topic but this is the single best-sounding song of the postgrunge radio era:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqAW8K3ReMc

lol i was watching collective soul youtubes and the sidebar led me to dishwalla youtubes.

basically i just need a thread where i can riff on modern rock radio songs 1996-1999

Oh, in that case, I always liked that Fuel song about bleeding or something.

This one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbHfgXJKn1Y

Why Pt 2

always liked this xgau review

Hints Allegations and Things Left Unsaid [Atlantic, 1994]
I swear these tuneful blandos were hands-down winners of the REO Speedwagon eight-track earmarked for the Least Alternative "Alternative" of 1994 before I ever read their bio. I swear I didn't know the front man studied guitar at Berklee and took his band name band from The Fountainhead. C-

I remember being deeply offended by the blatant pandering of the "Shine" video in middle school

yeah i remember very distinctly Collective Soul being maybe the first band to set off my True Alternative bullshit detector (which I was young and dumb enough that even, like, Candlebox hadn't seemed too offensively bogus to me before that). them and Silverchair, i guess.

Collective Soul was like Pearl Jam if the whole band was Dave Abbruzzese

the first band to set off my True Alternative bullshit detector

Stone Temple Pilots didn't trigger it?

yeah good call, i haaaaated "Plush"

Collective Soul was basically the new low after STP

Post-grunge hangers-on have long outlived their expected shelf life

I'm not sure if this is true. "Heavy" is the last song I can recall that got a lot of spins, and that was like '99...

I don't like any of these songs. At all.

I voted for "Heavy" because it offends me the least, and it's kinda funny.

This is the kind of band that Howard Stern thinks is good.

I respect a lot of the Collective Soul songs for having that good 90's aesthetic. That being said I might only know 3 CS songs (and I won't vote unless I go crazy on youtube tonight)

Post-grunge hangers-on have long outlived their expected shelf life

I'm not sure if this is true. "Heavy" is the last song I can recall that got a lot of spins, and that was like '99...

― billstevejim, Sunday, March 6, 2011 6:56 PM (4 hours ago)

The fact that they have continually released albums in the face of a rapidly shrinking and/or apathetic fanbase means they've outlived their shelf life, no? A lot of their contemporaries have broken up and some have even reunited, but CS just kept chugging along.

Collective Soul was basically the new low after STP

― da croupier, Sunday, March 6, 2011 6:54 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

how do i luv thee, let me count the SBs......

I could put the songs STP have recorded which aren't complete trash on one side of a C-60 and still have room to spare.

RONG

tbf I could do the same with Collective Soul for the other side (or could fill up the empty space on STP's side).

Purple only has like, uh, two bad tracks at most. I'm one of the few people who likes Core too, but Tiny Music was good too. THAT'S MORE THAN A C-60 MY FREUND.

"Lounge Fly" is awesome

I love Big Bang Baby and like a handful of others, but they've always seemed like a transparently fakey kind of band (even more than Collective Soul, who are just a bunch of square dudes who don't know any better) and that's hard to get past.

I can see that on their first album, where Weiland sings in an uncomfortably low range for him, w/ a copycat warble, and some of the riffs are faux-grunge, but on Purple and after they embraced a hell of a lot more of their 70's rock roots and sounded a lot more comfortable, IMO.

that one song on slide guitar that DeLeo plays over finger picked chords on Tiny Music is really neat.

Collective Soul, on the other hand, don't sound like they know who their influences are. they obviously listened to 70's rock, but it's sort of like they were reproducing their idea of the collective of the genre rather than drawing from anything defined. and thus, it sucked.

(I'll admit to liking "Gel", "December", and.....no, that's it).

I love Big Bang Baby and like a handful of others, but they've always seemed like a transparently fakey kind of band (even more than Collective Soul, who are just a bunch of square dudes who don't know any better) and that's hard to get past.

Fakey or not, STP has plenty of great songs, whereas Collective Soul does not.

Collective Soul was basically the new low after STP

― da croupier, Sunday, March 6, 2011 6:54 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

how do i luv thee, let me count the SBs......

I apologize if I courted offense by not reaffirming this, but I was describing the perspective of a middle schooler precociously obsessed with authenticity, partially due to reading a lot of SPIN. I love a handful of Purple and Tiny Music tracks now, no reason to get upset.

Have no idea who the fuck these are. Good luck USA.

yeah STP won me over with Purple and i was a fan by the time of Tiny Music, but circa Core they were offensive to my tender Pearl Jam-loving sensibilities

No worries croup, I didn't really SB ;)

fwiw I SBed everyone on this thread for making me remember thatthis band existed

obsessed with authenticity, partially due to reading a lot of SPIN

Fwiw, I actually interviewed this band for that magazine once (though I've barely listened to them since):

http://books.google.com/books?id=774lMJwGjVcC&pg=PA81&lpg=PA81&dq=%27%27chuck+eddy%27+%27collective+soul%27+spin&source=bl&ots=2bdqkQ7xDF&sig=LbEqEhQ-FtvkmSQJu9Z2_1lj5-o&hl=en&ei=gud0Td2zGoi30QH8jOXEAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CBcQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

"Our bus driver has about as many groupies as we do."

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