Best Hip-Hop/Rap Album Included on Pitchfork's Top Albums Lists (2001-08)

College Dropout or Cold Vein

Eminem Show is easily the worst, and that's including all the oi oi oi grime shit

lol whiney

Kinda think The Grind Date is hella underrated.

i like most of this list but it's missing all my emphatic favorites from the decade

voted pretty toney

voted Boy in da Corner.

Time has already not been kind to The Streets. Can't imagine how he'll be regarded (if at all) in another 10 years.

voted madvillain

coulda gone pretty toney or king

hhnf

What is the point of this?

sigh @ whiney

huh weird that let's get it is in here but not the recession.

1. king
2. boy in da corner
3. under construction
4. run the road
5. the college dropout
6. da drought 3
7. late registration
8. let's get it: thug motivation 101
9. showtime
10. tha carter iii

its not really that weird, 'let's get it' is his breakthrough

isn't the point of a breakthrough that the stuff that comes after it also gets recognised?

lost his trendy hipster cachet by that point iirc

viktor vaughn, had a new sicker song, i think he called it lickupon, but umm

ts: wale "mixtape about seinfeld" vs young jeezy "the recession"

What is the point of this?

have you ever seen an ilx poll? it's about as pointless/unpointless as pretty much any other poll going. anyway- read the intro text, why don't you? bunch of hip-hop albums picked out by a site not renowned for its hip-hop knowledge, leaving out lots of bona-fide 'classics' etc. etc.

Stankonia, The Blueprint, Supreme Clientele, Miss E...So Addictive, The Marshall Mathers LP, Lord Willin'... all of these were ignored by Pitchfork's year-end lists on release, then retroactively added to the half-decade and decade lists... so they're not included here.

sux bc i like those better than p much everything else on this list (that i know)

everybody vote maths + english so both the people who hate grime & the people who love it can go apoplectic

I vote T.I. -- King cuz I'm a T.I. stan

Eminem Show is easily the worst, and that's including all the oi oi oi grime shit

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, March 13, 2011 7:00 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

yea the album is hella boring, other than Soldier.

What is the point of this?

have you ever seen an ilx[or] poll?

ZING

dead perez hilton

I like that Lupe Fiasco album too

xpost, yeah thats what the dn is ref to, deej

loooooool aerosmith, A+

i liked maths+english — was just listening to the ugk track the other day

T.I. - King

i know you ilx0rs is broke, cuz i know what ya charge

Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein [Def Jux; 2001]
Dälek - From Filthy Tongue of Gods and Griots [Ipecac; 2001]
Blackalicious - Blazing Arrow [MCA; 2002]

try as I might, I could never get into that Blackalicious outside of a few songs. that was around the same time I was in my major The Coup listening phase tho

i liked a few songs off nia esp this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i27ri_etWxU

there were some p dorky songs they dropped tho esp on blazing arrow

i forget the name at the moment, but i always kinda dug that one 7-minute long new-age/prog-rap odyssey (feat. saul williams)

but yeah extremely dorky ("chemical calisthenics" to thread!)

okay i definitely still f/w this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIGJ1lekcMg

that Cee-Lo and Beanie Sigel are great too

oh shit that beanie is easily my #1

wish i hadnt missed that

lol I adore both those 2001 albums. lol 2001, and I

can't believe there's TWO lil wayne albums on this list and neither are 'tha carter II'

excuse me, three lil wayne albums

'run the road' was DEFINITELY a better 2005 rap album

anyway

1. college dropout
2. king
3. we got it 4 cheap
4. purple haze
5. dedication 2

carter 2 would easily be my fav if it was here, was the first thing i looked for

i don't care about any album on this list up until college dropout

8 albums from 2003 but no 50 cent

a quick glance at the list myself (didn't really think abt my favs when compiling) and the frontrunner is El-P - Fantastic Damage [Def Jux; 2002] but i'll give it a bit more thought & replay some stuff b4 i vote

LJ u need to hear this one ^^ if u haven't yet btw

this makes me really worried about the upcoming ilm hip-hop poll tbh

lex one day i am going to write a computer program to automatically post lex posts to ilm & u will have a lot more free time on your hands

it shouldn't have won but madvillain is p awesome i think

lex have you heard it?

what weirds me out more than the top 3 is
Kanye West - Late Registration [Roc-A-Fella; 2005] 0

My guess is that Madvillainy is a bit too lo-fi for Lex

Your number one came fourth Lex. That ain't so bad right?

the nominations thread this makes me really worried about the upcoming ilm hip-hop poll tbh

― B1ll C4ll4h4n (symsymsym), Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:15 PM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

perhaps the goon lurker army will rise to the occasion

that too

i thought i voted for Late Registration but i guess i forgot to

Cam'ron - Purple Haze [Roc-A-Fella; 2005] 1

^ this is the most smh vote possible, honestly

Jesus You People

ha i voted for dalek even if i never heard it cuz i thought it was a dumb poll

so mark one vote down for beanie sigel - the b.coming

dalek is p much the best

i need to check it out

yeah, that rec is a good place 2 start imo

hell hath no fury is the best on this list imo

maybe tha carter 2 is better though

this guy

Does no-one like clipse on ilm?

i used to be one of the biggest clipse stans! then i got over it. but to say HHNF is better than

T.I. - King
Kanye West - The College Dropout
Ghostface - The Pretty Toney Album
Cam'ron - Purple Haze
Beanie Sigel - The B.Coming
Young Jeezy - Let's Get It: Thug Motivation 101
DJ Drama & Lil Wayne - Dedication 2
Clipse - We Got It 4 Cheap, Vol. 2
Various Artists - Run the Road
Kanye West - Late Registration
J Dilla - Donuts
Jay-Z - The Black Album
Lil Wayne - Da Drought 3
Missy Elliott - Under Construction
Madvillain - Madvillainy

is a helluva statement imo

lf 'lord willin' was on this list it would be up there for me w/ college dropout

their shtick was way tired by the time HHNF dropped, and i don't think it's a coincidence that they haven't dropped one thing of consequence since that album. the decline started w/ that album.

woah, for me HHNF is like top 5 of the 00's. Of that list you just gave, only late registration, pretty toney and dedication 2 come close. But tbf ive not even listened to half of these these records fully through. Like is TI's King really that good? I've only heard what you know and front back, which are both tunes, but never listened to the full album. Is it worth downloading?

Also some weird choices, pretty toney over fishscale and supreme clientele? Dedication over tha carter 2?

i didn't post that list

and yes, "king" is worth downloading

Also some weird choices, pretty toney over fishscale and supreme clientele? Dedication over tha carter 2?

― prego, Friday, September 2, 2011 6:35 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

i didn't order the list. it's just a c/p.

Yeah I was addressing both of you in 1 post, should have made it clearer

Yeah I meant weird choices from pfork

"pretty toney over fishscale and supreme clientele?"

Without a doubt.

^ still think this is nuts

Supreme is close but Pretty Toney is way better than Fishscale.

xpost, like in that song he's rapping about his fucking sodium intake like a grown-ass man instead of being fucking snowblower that shoots cocaine onto the 50 yard line of the Georgia dome

― dead perez (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, March 13, 2011 11:08 PM (5 months ago) Bookmark

tis is a funnie post

Supreme is close but Pretty Toney is way better than Fishscale.
I still don't understand this line of thinking. Of his first five albums, Pretty Toney is easily his weakest IMO. Fishscale might not be the best collection of beats of his career, but rhymewise it's his peak.

Ironman thru Bulletproof = thesis
Pretty Toney = (transitional album) antithesis
Fishscale = (near-perfect) synthesis

Wtf that doesn't even make sense

it doesn't even make hegelian sense

"but rhymewise it's his peak."

This doesn't really concern me much. Overall vibe/energy/soul/fun of Pretty Toney > his other releases

I like the sample choices better as well, feels like a soul album more than a rap album.

^^^100% otm

i prefer SC to Pretty Toney but not by much. PT was the last great ghost album to me

i also prefer toney to fishscale, but fishscale had the best single: "back like that"

anyways here is my super alt top ten list. didn't realize my taste in hiphop was so WILD BEASTS

1. donuts (how did this get NO love?)
2. run the road
3. cold vein
4. grand don't come for free
5. madvillainy
6. got it 4 cheap 2
7. pretty toney
8. let's get it (i actually prefer inspiration tops out of the jeezy LPs tho)
9. 808s
10. rjd2, lol

also would have voted the unseen above madvillainy if it made the list

i rep for 'back like that' too actually

1. donuts (how did this get NO love?)

not having rapping iirc

Of the albums on this list I've heard, HHNF is the most consistent by a long shot. Generally speaking I've got backpack-ass tastes in hip hop, though, so I probably can't be trusted.

King Geedorah - Take Me to Your Leader [Big Dada; 2003]

man i still play this, shits real

haha i still play monster island czars, the rawest

Good poll winner, smh at those who sths

yeah that monster island czars record is really good

Otm

smh at those who sths

lost line from an EPMD outtake