Metal genres, ranked

this isn't my ranking yet just putting the types out there, what'm I missing? looking only for full genres not microsplitting stuff like "symphonic power grind" or whatever

trad metal
doom metal
death metal
black metal
power metal
thrash metal
grind

are you being ironic?

i knew this was a pfunkboy thread! oh wait...

pr0g

rap

proto-metal maybe?

nu

remember when he used to HATE list threads and polls?

hipster

oh yeah and goth metal is a thing I think.

girly

folk

yeah "prog" is such a weird tag - there's progressive death like Atheist, progressive thrash like Voivod, and straight up prog-metal like Dream Theater

not being "ironic" just listening to Stargazer and thinking man I like this branching-afield-but-firmly-DM style of death metal almost as much as anything, and just thinking through what're my favorites. if it were a pfunkboy thread it'd be a poll.

Christian

remember when he used to HATE list threads and polls?

we still think polls are stupid but the bad guys won that one

Sludge Metal
Viking Metal
Folk Metal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_subgenres

Pirate Metal

remember when he used to HATE list threads and polls?

we still think polls are stupid but the bad guys won that one

You sure did, you started one last week.

proto-metal maybe?

yeah I'm trying to think what proto-metal wouldn't I still call metal? like early 70s rock stuff?

Blue Cheer?

yeah I conceded the point, if you can't beat 'em join 'em is a sound strategy, glad you're keeping tabs on my every move AG. just for your notebook today I'm wearing jeans & short sleeves

dude, um, areosmithh, have you heard the nader sadek album on season of mist? love that thing. dude doesn't even play on it. he is a "conceptual artist" who makes masks for Sunn O))) or something but man did he ever get the right guys to make a killer death metal album.

hahaha seriously? he has a record he doesn't play on? that is gangster

glad you're keeping tabs on my every move AG.

you still going for that bullshit line? You sure must think everything revolves around you.

http://www.roadto51.com/pages/index.php?refid=

Season of Mist

Release: 5/16/2011

“In the Flesh” is the brainchild of Egyptian-born, New York-based conceptual artist Nader Sadek. Known for his impressively twisted sculptures, masks, and installations used for example by bands such as MAYHEM and SUNN O))), Sadek is now venturing into the realm of recorded music - including songwriting credits on this album! The band NADER SADEK emerges out of a collaboration between Sadek and some of extreme music’s most talented artists with its core made up out of songwriter/vocalist Steve Tucker (ex-MORBID ANGEL), CRYPTOPSY drummer Flo Mounier and Norwegian composer/guitarist Rune Eriksen (AVA INFERI, ex-MAYHEM). A host of guest-appearances lends additional weight to the musical impact of “In the Flesh” by leading artists such as Attila Csihar (MAYHEM), Travis Ryan (CATTLE DECAPITATION), Tony Norman (MONSTROSITY), Descructhor (MORBID ANGEL), and Nick McMaster (KRALLICE). Stylistically “In the Flesh” is firmly based on technically masterfully executed Floridian Death Metal with a pitch black twist – imagine “Domination” period MORBID ANGEL colliding with MAYHEM’s “Ordo ad Chao”.

i didn't respond the last time you did it, but seriously, fuck you "smithy"

you sure are all over the power metal thread, ostensibly a genre you don't care about, my man! you address me, reliably, in every metal thread, ever, and now you have shat upon this one, too - nice work

whoa whoa i want to hear that nader sadek like right now

cryptopsy drummer is the business

yeah that's one of the best death metal drummers ever

death
black
thrash
doom

most of my favorite death and thrash groups are from the early 90s, though. most of the newer stuff I listen to now is black (especial love stuff described as 'blackened death', and 'blackened thrash'.

Blackened Technical Death will always be the funniest genre name ever to me

someone should poll metal microgenres vs dance microgenres

death
trad
black
grind
thrash
doom

I'd probably put power metal in trad tbh. it's really just the refining of the eighties tradition, isn't it? that'd be my take. don't like putting black metal above grind but my favorite black metal acts are some of my favorite acts period.

It's not to be confused with its close relative, "Blackened Technical Folk-Prog Death". the two greatest drummers in that particular genre are Dave Lombardo and Bill Ward.

xxpost

pornogrind would put metal on top i think

xxp

but then when I think about prog-thrash I think it's getting the short end from me, love Voivod & Bulldozer, plus Sarcofago is thrash and they're all-time

Im a fan of beer-thrash, myself.

to me there's really no need for the prog qualifier for thrash, unless it means something totally different than i think it does

is Metalcore a Metal genre btw?

straight up prog-metal like Dream Theater

this is a "thing" in itself I think? Can't think of any band names beyond DT themselves and Magellan, but there sure seemed to be a load of these bands around at one point.

Queensryche totally had a Prog Metal shtick and they were far from thrashy tho xxp

Doom
Trad
Black
Grind
Death
Thrash

^ my ranking of the big ones

black
death
thrash
grind
trad
doom

i think? maybe? they're all pretty close tbh, the only one i feel totally confident about rankingwise is doom, some of which i like but loads of which i dont

Blackened Symphonic Goregrind is the best metal genre.

trad
doom
thrash
death/grind

I really dislike black, so it doesnt make the list. Please dont SB me all at once.

i've done enough SBing on this thread for one day

metal genres, rankled

quick include industrial metal so we all have something to laugh at together

i wanna see someone roll out an impassioned defence of powerman 5000

I fuck with Rammstein

TS: dub metal vs dub techno

"TS: dub metal vs dub techno"

The winner either way is Scorn.

Or maybe the Chamber Brothers.

Minimal Metal
House Metal
Jungle Metal
Detroit Metal
Hardcore Metal

made me laff really hard

"house metal" you know what you eat when you're listening to this is outside chicken and then you got the best of both worlds

drum n no bass

i still listen to the Techno Animal Porter Ricks EP fairly regularly

who does breakbeat metal? I'd like to check that out

I haven't listened in ages but a band called ...and oceans* sorta played around with some techno ideas iirc

*stfu, haters

Some of the harder end of dnb is kinda breakbeat metal. Hive, Kaos, etc.

i know a lot of real Metal dudes who got very into D'n'B, both riff-based musics isn't it?

that first Panacea album and the first Atari Teenage Riot album rank among my favorite things in the world

who does breakbeat metal? I'd like to check that out

― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Thursday, March 17, 2011 4:54 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

I read this as "Breakfast Metal".

hmmm.

trad
black
doom
death
grind
thrash

this is tough. I ranked grind pretty low because I don't listen to it all that much overall. but the grind bands that do it for me scratch an itch that almost no other kind of music does. a bit like harsh noise or some of the more out/abrasive improv.

wait i remember ...and oceans but i dont know why?!

also who wants to join my fucking awesome Outside Power Chicken Metal band

dub metal = dub trio

who does breakbeat metal? I'd like to check that out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkjLSzb2yFo

DJP -

I'd recommend this remix album:
Animosity (2) & Drumcorps - Altered Beast

definitely greater than the sum of its parts. sounds better on 45 than 33 1/3 tho.

death trad black thrash doom grind

where does alt-metal fit in here? i guess prog is usually trad unless it isn't

lol like I'm not up on Godflesh already

next you'll be like "have you ever heard of this band White Zombie, they might be to your liking"

the drum programming on this one is absolutely insane too:
Agoraphobic Nosebleed - Altered States Of America

more like grind/idm than breakbeat tho. also, anb lyrics are kind of "sketchy" and lame.

lol like I'm not up on Godflesh already

next you'll be like "have you ever heard of this band White Zombie, they might be to your liking"

ha, sorry, I figured I should start at the beginning. The Blood of Heroes is a recent Broadrick project which is kind of breakbeat-y

where does alt-metal fit in here? i guess prog is usually trad unless it isn't

― ciderpress, Thursday, March 17, 2011 5:04 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Good point. I would think the archetype of alt-metal would be Kix.

"ha, sorry, I figured I should start at the beginning. The Blood of Heroes is a recent Broadrick project which is kind of breakbeat-y"

Blood of Heroes is awesome.

SPEED METAL

JESUS!

i wanna see someone roll out an impassioned defence of powerman 5000

― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, March 17, 2011 1:47 PM (Yesterday)

I saw a broken portable CD player by the side of the road and it had a pm5k sticker on it ––– made me feel all Holden Caulfield for a couple moments. That is the best I can come up with.

I saw Kill The Client today, so grindcore rules over all other musical genres, never mind just metal genres.

Y'all will have to help my dilettante ass out...

1. Trad
2. Proto
3. Whatever Agalloch is
4. Whatever Opeth and Amorphis are
5. Whatever Baroness is (SST Metal?)
3. Power
4. Whatever Mercyful Fate is
5. Whatever The Gathering is
6. Viking

Weirdly my list yesterday was gonna be

1. Mercyful Fate
2. Everything else

Maybe Accept at 1b

Weirdly my list yesterday was gonna be

1. Mercyful Fate
2. Everything else

lol this sentiment is pretty much the original impetus for this poll

1 Dio
2 industrial metal
3 false metal
4 pop metal
5 power grind
6 bay area thrash
7 Y&T
8 Alex Skolnick's column for Guitar For the Practicing Musician 88-90

at last these lists are getting somewhere

Does proto-metal count as a metal genre? Because I could seee it not because it's proto-metal, so how could metal exist before there was metal? Unless we mean bands that emulate proto-metal years after the fact, but then they're emulating a form of music that happened before metal existed, which brings us back to my earlier quandary.

genres can exist retroactively when we hear them in stuff that existed before the genre name did.

A tentative theory: Tom Warrior's vocals became the dominant influence on second wave BM acts rather than King Diamond's, but if the latter had been the main influence everything would've been awesomely better

What was the first metal subgenre then, thrash? As in the first subgenre that wasn't named after the fact, one that fans referred to by name as it was happening. Does NWOBHM count as a "genre"?

A tentative theory: Tom Warrior's vocals became the dominant influence on second wave BM acts rather than King Diamond's, but if the latter had been the main influence everything would've been awesomely better

CONFIRMED

NWOBHM is too unwieldy to be anything but a journalists' description and I don't know if Metal fans were v. introspective re: genre labels then. Used to argue about differences between Metal/Heavy Rock/Hard Rock tho.

Thrash and Black Metal were getting used as labels by fans at roughly the same time I think, pretty sure people used BM almost straight away to talk about Venom, Bathory, M. Fate et al. Glam Metal used in the same era I think talking about Hanoi Rocks etc.

The problem with that theory is nobody sounds like King Diamond, therefore the genre would go extinct. Like the dodo bird. Or something.

feel like lots of vocalists can and do get away with failed attempts at the Tom Warrior vocal but if you try King Diamond and come up short you're flirtin' with disaster [via Molly Hatchet]

think King D is really only a super-talented version of yr classic Metal vocal, bit of Rob Halford, bit of Biff Byford, bit of Klaus Meine etc. But much as I love Celtic Frost bands adopting that sound are going for a kind of Cool style, rejecting some of the flamboyance of earlier Metal even tho the flamboyance leaks out in lots of other places. I mean I wouldn't want only one or the other but I feel a lot of my affection for Mercyful Fate is that KD represents this high water mark for a certain school of Metal vocals that shdn't've been abandoned quite as comprehensively as they were

^^^v well stated.

quick ranking with letter grades-

doom: A+
black: B
thrash/trad: C
death/grind: D-

avant-garde
progressive black
doom black
progressive death
conventional black
doom
progressive trad
funeral doom
progressive thrash
trad
post-metal
conventional death
shoegaze metal
industrial metal
grind
wiggy shit made of big muddy riffs which pfunkboy likes
cock metal

pop metal fits in somewhere between 'wiggy shit' and 'cock metal'. actually i'm reconsidering 'cock metal', belongs above grind probably, maybe even industrial metal

A tentative theory: Tom Warrior's vocals became the dominant influence on second wave BM acts rather than King Diamond's, but if the latter had been the main influence everything would've been awesomely better

Hey dude have you heard Exekrator? Because I think they fell out of the alternate universe where this happened.