For all microphone fiends, the NOMINATIONS THREAD for the BEST RAP/HIP-HOP SINGLES AND ALBUMS EVER poll

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr61P5P-jFc

Nominations end 21st April, in 1 month.

You get to nominate 25 singles/freestyles/breaks and 25 albums/mixtapes/instrumental albums.

There will be 2 polls.

You can vote or nominate for only one if you wish, but not 50 of 1 and 0 of the other - 25 is the limit on each. Real headz shouldn't have a problem with either side though.

The votes will let you vote for a list of up to 50 singles and 50 albums. The points system will be in descending order, #2 = 49 points, #3 = 48 etc. but with an additional boost of 60 points for your #1. You don't have to vote for 50 of each and if you say just voted for three records, they would be attributed 60, 49, 48.

Preferably I'd like to get enough votes to make this a serious TOP 150 of each, counting down 30 on each weekday.

Peace Godz.

Discussion of what counts as hip-hop or not can come in this thread if you want to be a sucker and try to pretend that James Brown or Mary J. Blige or Asher Roth should be allowed in.

requesting unranked ballot option for those of us who don't care to decide on rankings within a top 50 ballot, plz?

Hadn't thought about it. Sure. Too lazy to do the maths right now.

or, an option for #1 (60 pts.) + 49 unranked tracks (25 pts. apiece) would be rad

Pete Rock & CL Smooth - T.R.O.Y. (They Reminisce Over You)
MF Doom - Dead Bent (album version)

(traxx)

ilxor yeah that is cool.

So voting will be 50 ranked votes, 60-#1 and then 49-#2 down; 60-#1 and then 25-#unranked. You have to have a #1 though.

Yes, can people clearly state whether things are tracks or albums. Even if I do have p decent knowledge of things, I may still get things confused.

tracks (3/25)-

Cypress Hill - How I Could Just Kill A Man
Ghostface Killah - Apollo Kids
The Beatnuts - Reign of the Tec

Presuming Dom and maybe Ethan or whoever still read ilm and want to be involved, feel free to go through someone.

Tracks (6/25)-

Mikes Jones, Slim Thug & Paul Wall - Still Tippin'
Boogie Down Productions - South Bronx
The Notorious B.I.G. - Kick In The Door

Albums (3/25)-

Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx...
Young Jeezy - The Recession
Gang Starr - Step In The Arena

i don't even know where to start

traxx (6/25)

Lil Wayne - 3 AM
Flipmode Squad - Cha Cha Cha
Eminem - If I Had
Lil B - The Age of Information

(7/25)

Outkast - Da Art of Storytellin pt. 1

Rebecca Black - Friday (Rap Mix)

traxx (9/25)

Ghostface Killah (ft MethodMan, Masta Killa, Cappadonna, Redman) - Buck 50
Madvillain - Curls

bump #1

TRACKS (25/25)

Mos Def - Ghetto Rock
A Tribe Called Quest - Can I Kick It?
Beastie Boys - Shake Your Rump
Jay-Z - 99 Problems
Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five - The Message
Whodini - Magic's Wand
Run-DMC - It's Like That
Missy Elliott - Work It
Nice & Smooth - Sometimes I Rhyme Slow
N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton
2Pac ft. Dr. Dre - California Love
Ice Cube - It Was a Good Day
Snoop Dogg - Gin and Juice
Public Enemy - Night of the Living Baseheads
LL Cool J - Rock the Bells
Cocoa Brovaz - Super Brooklyn
Dr. Dre ft. Snoop Dogg - Nuthin' But a G Thang
Chamillionaire ft. Krayzie Bone - Ridin'
AMG - Bitch Betta Have My Money
Newcleus - Jam on It (← this had better count)
Stetsasonic - On Fire
L'Trimm - Cars With the Boom
Q-Tip - Vivrant Thing
De La Soul - Ring Ring Ring (Ha Ha Hey)
Sole - Selling Live Water

Several obvious/canon choices included here just because it might as get done and I'm fine doing it. Also a few that heads will probably laugh at, but whatever.

Electro hits like Jam On It totally count.

In that case, I'd like to swap out that Sole song that nobody would vote for besides me with this:

Pretty Tony - Jam the Box

tracks(15/25)

Ice-T - New Jack Hustler
Geto Boys - Mind Playing Tricks on Me
Three 6 Mafia - Stay Fly (probably prefer it to "Stay High")
50 Cent - In Da Club
Notorious B.I.G. - Suicidal Thoughts
LL Cool J - Mama Said Knock You Out
Public Enemy - By The Time I Get To Arizona
UGK feat. Outkast - International Players Anthem
Warren G. feat. Nate Dogg - Regulate
De La Soul - Eye Know
Run D.M.C. - Rock Box
Rob Base and DJ E-Z Rock - It Takes Two
MC Lyte - Ruffneck
B-Rock and the Bizz - My Baby Daddy
Funky Four Plus One - That's The Joint

albums (3/25)

Digable Planets - Reachin'
LL Cool J - Mama Said Knock You Out
Ice-T - O.G.

This is easy for the single and I cannot believe it wasn't mentioned yet:

A Side ---

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gww98XxU1lc

B Side ---

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_PjuLsTDNw

Perfection.

Almost nommed that one. Didn't like it as much as I'd remembered liking it upon a quick revisit.

Jesus, what is wrong with it? There's a reason it's the most sampled rap single ever...

Sure it sounds a little dated but so does almost all classic hip-hop.

Soft spot for this track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKRAFPHD8W4

Never figured out where that guitar riff came from. Anyone know?

ALBUMS (14/25)

Beastie Boys - Licensed to Ill
Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique
Run-DMC - Raising Hell
Stetsasonic - On Fire
LL Cool J - Radio
N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton
A Tribe Called Quest - People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm
De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising
De La Soul - De La Soul Is Dead
Kanye West - Graduation
Jay-Z - The Blueprint
Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Ice Cube - Death Certificate
2Pac - All Eyez on Me

Sure it sounds a little dated but so does almost all classic hip-hop.

That's not it. I love LOVE old drum-machine hip-hop. "The Show" just sounds a little clunkier than I remember.

ALBUMS (16/25)

Dr. Dre - The Chronic
Snoop Dogg - Doggystyle

(a couple of so-obvious-I-actually-forgot-them nominations)

Here's my nominations, tried to keep it to one nom per artist, which was kinda difficult:

TRACKS

Man Parrish feat. Freeze Force - Boogie Down (Bronx)
Pras feat. ODB & Mya - Ghetto Supastar (That Is What You Are)
Eve feat. Drag-On - Let's Talk About
Organized Konfusion - Bring It On
The Sequence - Funk You Up
Nas - One Mic
Skee-Lo - I Wish
Cypress Hill - Illusions
Rah Digga - Lessons of Today
Ice Cube - Dead Homiez
Rubberoom - Born
Bone Thugs-n-Harmony - Tha Crossroads
Herbie Hancock - Rockit
MC Lyte - Paper Thin
Wu-Tang Clan feat. Isaac Hayes - I Can't Go to Sleep
Sugarhill Gang - 8th Wonder
Busta Rhymes - Fire It Up
Ty - Wait a Minute
2Pac - Keep Ya Head Up
Queen Latifah feat. Monie Love - Ladies First
Luniz - I Got 5 on It
Ice-T - I'm Your Pusher
Naughty by Nature - OPP
Lil' Kim - Whoa
Onyx - Last Dayz

ALBUMS

Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein
AZ - Aziatic
Eve - Ruff Ryder's First Lady
Nas - God's Son
Gravediggaz - 6 Feet Deep / Niggamortis
Ultramagnetic MC's - Critical Beatdown
Cypress Hill - Black Sunday
The Brotherhood - Elementalz
The Lady of Rage - Necessary Roughness
The Coup - Genocide & Juice
Dead Prez - Turn off the Radio: The Mixtape Vol. 1
Blak Twang - Kik Off
Killah Priest - Priesthood
Heltah Skeltah - Nocturnal
Organized Konfusion - Stress: The Extinction Agenda
Black Moon - Total Eclipse
The Majesticons - Beauty Party
Cee-Lo - Cee-Lo Green is the Soul Machine
Yo-Yo - Make Way for the Motherlode
Divine Styler - Wordpower 2: Directrix
Da Beatminerz - Brace 4 Impak
Screwball - Y2K
Bone Thugs-n-Harmony - E. 1999 Eternal
2Pac - Me Against the World
Various - Major Force – The Original Art-Form (Major Force label compilation)

omg yes paper thin

guessing grime counts as hip-hop? (and indeed the global hip-hop diaspora eg mc solaar)

Even though it's good and everything, I'm kinda hoping 36 Chambers doesn't win the album poll. I have no idea what might win the tracks poll - that one is certainly the more interesting of the two.

I see no reason why non-US hip hop shouldn't count. I thought of nominating a couple of Finnish rap records, but decided to leave them out because none of you would've heard them anyway.

ctrl-f'd couldn't see it so v pleased to be the one to nominate the eventual poll-topper:
Digital Underground - The Humpty Dance

I'm hoping someone else besides me will vote for Elementalz and Kik Off, those are dope UK albums.

http://www.rivmixx.com/uploads/assets//hiphop/dizzee-rascal-embed.jpg

considering this was the cover of hiphop connection, i'll allow it.

(x-post)

Holy shit, I completely forgot about Digital Underground! Someone please nominate their first two albums.

Are we voting any track of any given album or strictly limited to single releases?

Tracks (14/25) -

Jay-Z, Memphis Bleek, Missy Elliott and Twista - Is That Yo Chick?
Jay-Z and Juvenile - Snoopy Track
Outkast - B.O.B.
Mark '45' King - #900 Number
Klashnekoff - It's Murda
Jehst - Adventures in New Bohemia
Group Home - Supa Star

Albums (10/25) -

The Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death
KMD - Black Bastards
Klashnekoff and Joe Buddha - Lionheart: Tussle With The Beast
A Tribe Called Quest - People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm
The Fugees - The Score
Mobb Deep - Hell on Earth
David Banner - Mississippi: The Album

Moka: Well considering I opened it up to freestyles, I think album tracks can count.

i guess the rule for r&b/hip-hop tracks is division of verses between rapping and singing? if 50% or more of verses are rapping, it counts, if less then it doesn't?

I don't think we need a strict formula. I nommed that one Cee-Lo album because it feels like hip hop to me, even though there might be more than 50% of singing on it. If you nom something, and people don't think it's hip hop enough, they shouldn't vote for it. Simple as that.

Yeah. I mean I don't want "but it's called 'hip hop soul'". Like think of it as if it is Ja Rule ft. Ashanti then its... eligible but if its Ashanti ft. Ja Rule then gtfo

traxx (12/25)

2Pac - Hail Mary
Dead Prez - Hip Hop
Dr. Dre - Keep Their Heads Ringin'

Tracks (18/25)

A Tribe Called Quest - Bonita Applebum (Why? Edit)
De La Soul - Roller Skatin' Jam Called ''Saturdays'
Delinquent Habits - Tres Delinquentes
Edan - Fumbling Over Words That Rhyme
Flying Lotus - Tea Leaf Dancers
Geto Boys - Mind Playing Tricks on Me
Gil Scott-Heron - The Revolution Will Not Be Televised
Mobb Depp - Shook Ones Part II
Madvillain - Accordion
Madvillain - ALL CAPS
Molotov - Gimme Tha Power
Nas - NY State of Mind
Rammellzee - Beat Bop (Vs. K-Rob)
Redman - Rated 'R'
Saint Etienne - Filthy
Schoolly D - P.S.K.-What Does It Mean?
Sugarhill Gang - Rapper's Delight
Tricky - Hell Is Round the Corner
Yo Majesty - Club Action

ALBUMS

Madvillain - Madvillainy
Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele
Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)

Does M.I.A. count as hip hop? Has a few tracks that might make it... want to nominate something.

Albums (13/25) (all canon, but someone has to nom them!)

Genius/ GZA - Liquid Swords
ODB - Return to the 36 Chambers
ODB - Nigga Please
Nas - Illmatic
Eric B & Rakim - Paid in Full
DJ Shadow - Endtroducing
Dr Dre - The Chronic
Boogie Down Productions - Criminal Minded
Steinski - What Does it all Mean? 1983 - 2006 Retrospective
Boogie Down Productions - By All Means Necessary
Public Enemy - Fear of a Black Planet
Public Enemy - Yo! Bumrush the Show
MF Doom - MM Food

Two instrumental hip hop records there- what's the thinking on those?

I think it should be ok - I nommed an instrumental hip hop compilation too.

really tho i have no idea how to even begin making a ballot 4 this

tuomas there isn't even an r&b chorus on the khia song o_0

Eh? It definitely has a chorus sung in rnb style ("so lick it now, lick it good..."), plus there's no rapping in it.

Well, okay, it has these semi-sung, semi-rapped verses, but that's not uncommon in modern rnb. Stylistically it's still much closer to rnb than hip-hop.

hot boys - guerrilla warfare

ppl really nominated "trap goin ham" & fucking "runaway" over every single big tymers single? shit

big tymers - get your roll on
big tymers - stay fly

kanye west - all falls down

lauryn hill - doo wop (that thing)
foxx ft lil boosie & webbie - wipe me down

Album:
Salt-n-Pepa - Hot, Cool & Vicious

nelly - country grammar
trick daddy - i'm a thug
trick daddy - shut up
rich boy ft polow da don - throw some d's
bubba sparxx ft timbaland - ugly
baby ft clipse - what happened to that boy
50 cent - window shopper
gucci mane - first day out
gucci mane - gorgeous
jt money - who dat
coo coo cal - in my projects
cam'ron ft juelz santana - hey ma
cam'ron - oh boy
nas ft ludacris & jadakiss - made you look (remix)
styles p - good times (i get high)
jay-z ft twista, killer mike, big boi - poppin tags
jay-z - a million and one questions
jhi-ali ft cooley & big pope - alabama
lil wayne - renegade freestyle

pras ft mya & ol dirty bastard - ghetto superstar

(should be 25)

I already nominated "Ghetto Supastar".

ah my bad, i didn't know it was called "supastar" so it didn't show up when i searched

if this poll achieves anything, hopefully it shows jordan that hip-hop existed before mannie fresh blew up.

lex's list is dope

I love the Khia song, but that's r'n'b, not rap, right?

okay come on now

This probably doesn't count but I'm going to try anyways:
Pigmeat Markham - Here Comes the Judge

fucking 'trap going ham'??? have yall learned nothing

"trap goin ham" is far from the most egregious track nominated

i hate it when one of the 762 tracks nominated is a track i dislike

I don't know if "Watch My Feet" has been nominated, but if not, "Watch My Feet" is now nominated.

I think I might leave that as my only nomination.

singles
Capone n Noreaga - Invincible
Cash Money Millionaires - Project Bitch
De La Soul & Teenage Fanclub - Fallin'
Devin the Dude - Lacville 79
Gravediggaz - Unexplained
Gucci Mane - My Kitchen
KRS-One - MC's Act Like They Don't Know
Lil Troy - Wanna Be a Baller
Lil Wayne - La La La
Mark Morrison - Return of the Mack
Mo Thugs Family - Ghetto Cowboy
Nate Dogg - Never Leave Me Alone (ft. Snoop Dogg)
Naughty by Nature - Feel Me Flow
Nice & Smooth - Funky For You
Noreaga - Banned From TV (Feat. Big Pun, Nature, Cam'ron, Jadakiss & Styles P)
Paperboy - Ditty
Tear Da Club Up Thugs - Triple Six Clubhouse
Too $hort - Gettin' It
Too $hort - In the Trunk Remix
UGK - Pocket Full of Stones (Port Arthur Remix)
Young Bleed - The Day They Make Me Boss

albums
B.G. - Checkmate
Birdman & Lil Wayne - Like Father, Like Son
Lil Jon & The Eastside Boyz - Crunk Juice
Master P - Ghetto D
Ol Dirty Bastard - Nigga Please
Young Bleed - My Balls and My Word

De La Soul & Teenage Fanclub - Fallin'

what is this?

Judgement Night soundtrack, wasn't it? A teen fave of mine...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_Night_(soundtrack)

Probably safe to say it wouldn't hold up on relistening.

Wow - not only that, but Mudhoney & Sir Mix-A-Lot too.

oh that soundtrack is a non-stop parade of lolz

so is this poll over yet or what

no way, that is still a killer jam and was always the best thing on the album (xostp)

Nominations end tonight. I will spend tomorrow putting the ego trip list and any other noms in and we will start voting on Saturday.

i spent all day yesterday writing exams & smoking weed here is my noms list (trax & albums) hope it isn't too late

southside playaz - swang down
crash crew - on the radio
pimp c - im free
puff daddy - it's all about the benjamins (remix)
trae - screw done already warned me
az - rather unique
geto boys - gangster of love
big l & jayz - stretch & bobbito freestyle '95
young ready - 1 rubber
outsidaz ft. eminem - take the whole world with me

gucci mane - burrprint 3d: the movie
pastor troy - we ready (i declare war)
max b & french montana - coke wave
dj screw - 3 in tha mornin
g unit - beg for mercy
masta ace, inc. - slaughtahouse

More tracks (19/25):

Raekwon feat. Ghostface - Criminology
J Stalin - Blue & Red Lights
MF Doom - Saliva
Waka Flocka Flame - Hard in da Paint
Black Star - Re:Definition
Petey Pablo - Raise Up
E-40 feat. Keak da Sneak - Tell Me When to Go
N2Deep - Back to the Hotel
Keak da Sneak feat. E-40 - White T Shirt, Blue Jeans and Nikes
Lupe Fiasco - Kick, Push
Crime Mob - Nuck if you Buck
Mac Dre - Mac Dre is the Name

And albums (12/25):

OutKast - Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik
Handsome Boy Modeling School - So... How's Your Girl?
J Stalin - Prenuptial Agreement
Lil Wayne - Da Drought 3
Immortal Technique - Revolutionary Vol. 2
Deltron 3030 - Deltron 3030

arg that J Stalin track is called Red & Blue Lights

Keak da Sneak feat. E-40 - White T Shirt, Blue Jeans and Nikes

oooh whats this?

ok dudes i am going to check the internet, take in some sleep and start sorting the master list. if you want to throw in some records in the next couple hours, go for it. i'll tell you when to shut up and start actually voting.

Oh man, great song, check it out! Excited for you if you've never heard it.

can we slip these in last second

ALBUM:
Prodigy - Return of the Mac

TRACK:
Lil B - I'm God
Lil Boosie - Top To The Bottom
Kanye West - Drive Slow

big l & jayz - stretch & bobbito freestyle '95

GOOD LOOKING OUT, FLOPSON

since my pras nomination was a repeat i'd like to add

shade sheist ft kurupt & nate dogg - where i wanna be

i'll make a nomination if there's still time

ALBUM
Tuff Crew - Back to wreck shop

if this poll achieves anything, hopefully it shows jordan that hip-hop existed before mannie fresh blew up.

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well tbf there's already 700 tracks nominated -- i guess i could've nominated the 13th best ice cube song or the 8th best song off illmatic but

there were no trick daddy nominations, if you don't think that's fucked up then idk what to tell you

well fuck then

Trick Daddy - In da Wind

Trick Daddy - I'm a Thug

Trick Daddy - Shut Up

Tracks (24/25)
DMX - Niggaz Done Started Something (feat. The LOX and Ma$e)
Notorious B.I.G. - Notorious Thugs (feat. Bone Thugs n Harmony)
Notorious B.I.G., Coolio, Doodlebug of the Digable Planets, Big Mike, Buckshot, Redman, Ill Al Skratch, Rock of Heltah Skeltah, Bone Thugs-n-Harmony, Busta Rhymes, 5th Ward Boyz, Jamal - The Points (DJ U-Neek Remix)

Albums (8/25)
Kool Keith - Sex Style
N.W.A. -Efil4Zaggin

goddamnit i swear i had "take it to da house" in my working list

Purely on the basis that it was nice and sunny outside today, I am saying "Fuck adding the ego trip list" because who can be fucked checking everything for doubles and alphabetising. But I will add the link at the top of the voting thread and be clear i'll accept anything off our list and theirs.

holy thank you jordan for reminding me coo coo cal exists.

tracks (11/25)

A Tribe Called Quest - Award Tour
Black Star f/ Common - Respiration
Busta Rhymes - Gime Some More
DJ Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince - Brand New Funk
DMX - What's My Name
Jadakiss f/ Styles P. - We're Gonna Make It
Lil Wayne f/ Juvenile and B.G. - The Block Is Hot
Pastor Troy - We Ready
Salt 'N' Pepa - I'll Take Your Man
Scarface f/ Tupac - Smile
Timbaland & Magoo - Luv 2 Luv U

where is the results thread

Posted them here:

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