Rap Vs. Metal

Voted SB

fair enough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zthUBcCMiFA

Nakh otm

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_l7k9ggh1wgQ/Sy6CTKoHPSI/AAAAAAAAAns/zVpTbn1keDc/s400/Soundtrack+-+Judgment+Night+-+front.jpg

damn that's quite a mix

p. important in my upbringing tbh ^^^

also, there's like nothing on earth better than rap music, so

mudhoney & sir mix-a-lot

two groups I never thought would be lumped together as such but I like it!

the seattle early 90s connection

should have been Teenage Fanclub w/ Boo-Yaa T.R.I.B.E. tho

p much the best song on the record is Mudhoney/Mix because the bands clearly like each other, whereas a lot of the others were kind of cobbled-together

"I wanna put you in the mud... honey"

hold up - these are actual collaborations as opposed to just a random assortment of groups that appear on a soundtrack? omg

there's like nothing on earth better than rap music metal, so

music died after 1982

http://oi53.tinypic.com/29f2pe1.jpg

hold up - these are actual collaborations as opposed to just a random assortment of groups that appear on a soundtrack?

:) (I can't even tell you how many times I've watched that clip over the last week just for that damn puppet)

hell yeah judgement night soundtrack!

wgw very mean to ppl who took too much acid when they were young imo

metal-rap not an option, abstaining

Now can I get an encore, do you want more
Cookin raw with the Brooklyn boy
So for one last time I need y'all to roar

voted 'rap'

Holy Diver
I'm a survivor
Feelin' like DeNiro in Taxi Driver
With Jodie Foster
And Harvey Keitel
Looks like I'm walking through a living hell

voted 'rap'

you guys thought you had D-40 pegged as some metal stan but he shook you up with a different look

lol

So spark that out
And I'll get lifted
Feelin' the effects
Of what my spliff did
'Cause I'm gifted
I read Sun Tzu
I brought a gun too
So you'll never come to

i think it's "spark that L"

especially because it rhymes with "hell" and is a word that means "marijuana cigarette" and makes sense as a sentence

do you ever take a look at yourself?

since when does "L" mean marijuana cigarette?

since before you gave up the shins and started liking rap

lol

judgement night soundtrack was great.

I assume this thread was started to move what deej/D-40 was saying on the poll thread to here. I don't think we should be having a metal vs rap fight as one of those is not better than the other, but i am interested in what deej says about why rap & metal shouldn't be comparable and why he dismisses metal as more of a niche genre just because it doesn't crack the top 10 singles chart or what have you.
but just for once can we have a civil thread on it guys?

I dunno,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_number-one_albums_of_2010_%28U.S.%29

Six rap albums hit #1 in 2010:
Ludacris, B.o.B, Drake, Eminem, Lil Wayne, Kanye

Four metal hit #1 in 2010:
Godsmack, Linkin Park, Avenged Sevenfold, Disturbed

\o_o/

You could argue, I think, that Hip Hop has changed the soundscape of popular music in much deeper, wider, more lasting ways than Metal has. Don't think that would be a case for saying one was better than the other tho.

i listen to way more rap these days but i'm gonna abstain anyway because it's fucking metal, dammit

fair point jim, but you grew up in the midlands where metal started, did it have an impact there?

bye fun thread

Dude, when Lady Gaga or Rihanna where metal and spikes and S&M gear in their shows, where do you think that came from?

Adam and Eve Online?

I'm not saying metal had a bigger impact in the UK than rap, but I think it is fair to say that raps impact on the UK is a lot smaller than it had in the USA?

x-post - lol

voted 'rap'

― D-40, Tuesday, March 22, 2011 8:24 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

sorry enbb but i do think deej has an interesting take and i would like to engage with him here rather than doing it on the hip hop poll/other threads where it seems to come up a lot,better to have it all on here and if it comes up again it can be pointed to this thread.

I could go either way here honestly.

today it is metal.

but I think it is fair to say that raps impact on the UK is a lot smaller than it had in the USA?

didn't you see about a boy, mystikal changed that kid's lyfe

Godsmack, Disturbed and Linkin PArk are barely metal.. lol.. and A7X are terrible.. At least with Lil Wayne, Eminem and Kanye, you have game changers..
MAinstream Metal, or at least Metal that sells records here in the states, usually doesn't reflect the true heart of metal proper..
But you can't pin one against the other.. appels in oranges. Each genre has had their peaks at different times in different ways.

XXP I think the latest Ozzy album might be a good benchmark for that as it had as wide a Vinyl release as it did a CD one, and isn't niche or extreme metal. And I have no doubt it sold way more CDs than LPs. But I wasn't talking about the general audience I was talking about 'extreme' fans.

who the hell would buy the latest ozzy album though?

the winner of this poll is the one ilxors hate the least, right?

metal gonna get pwned yall

i am of the "ladies ladies you are both v pretty" persuasion wrt to this, but i just didnt want anyone to get too shocked is all

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

strong showing by rap metal

these results are otm

thank God

did anyone vote rap-metal seriously? lol Maybe members of Urban Dance Squad lurk on De Subjectivisten

this was closer than i thought btw, i expected 100 votes for rap and about 12 for metal

its almost as if you have some sort of persecution complex about liking metal that everyone calls you out on

deeper shade of soul is my shiiiiiiiit cousin

Although the popularity of these styles has declined, some believe that rap rock may regain popularity, with younger music fans discovering bands in the genre. Drew Simollardes of the band Reveille states that "I feel like lately it’s more appropriate. People are sick of a lot of the stuff that’s out there right now."

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deeper shade of soul is my shiiiiiiiit cousin

― Bleeqwot the Chef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:43 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i bet a deej hates "deeper shade of soul"

or will humblebrag that he never heard of it

'humblebrag'??

i had to look up what it was

seems lol but not v great or anything

im sorry you feel guilty about know abt lame alt-rap crossover tracks from the early 90s whiney but dont project shit on me

late 80s you herb

oh so it was out when i was 6 yrs old. /humblebrag

obviously it's a horrible crime to not have the exact same musical background and reference points as whiney, deej let's meet up in study hall and go through the metal textbooks so we don't have any more "guy from mayhem committing suicide picture" type gaffes

the only thing that offends me about all this is deej callin Urban Dance Squad lame

yeah can you believe he had the nerve to voice his opinion about that song after you speculated that he hates it apropos of nothing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02Yql63Ssw8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3EJJjR8Kgw

they changed quite a bit by 94

*changes vote to metal*

remember this one whiney? this was on 120 mins all the time here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2X_4kr-nsE&feature=related

Wonder if Tuomas was a fan of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQR9bw-4R08&feature=related

That one was okay, but I liked "Down the Drain" and "Living It Up" more. "Living It Up" still sounds pretty good, btw, I last played it a couple of weeks ago. Sadly it's not on Youtube though, except for some lame live version.

dont see why rap kids wouldnt d/l full mixtapes either

But then, a mixtape is by its very definition a collection of tracks rather than a cohesive full artistic album.

deepahshadahsoul!

yea-ea-ea-eaaaaaah

watching videos when i was 10 or whatev, i used to always get SUPER PISSED when they showed the drummer and it would be edited wrong so they were hitting the snare where the bass drum was and vice-versa (this happened a LOT in hair metal videos ca 1988-1990).

But I guess since I had such limited knowledge of how DJing works, it wasn;t until rewatching the "Deeper Shade Of Soul" as a 31-y/o that i realize they never really edit the DJ so he's actually doing what the song is doing :(

LOL I remember getting the Deeper Shade of Soul single when I was nine and playing it for my fourth-grade class...everybody hated it!

A friend of mine dragged me to an Urban Dance Squad show well after their prime. I had only ever heard "Deeper Shade of Soul" a couple times at that point and nothing else. I found the concert very confusing.

I used to really like this track when I was 12 or so. It is a song that did not transcend its era.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2a4MPP7zRI

remember this one whiney? this was on 120 mins all the time here

yep, it's a classick

yes!

This one was one of my favorites
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGV0XWsSr3I

I may have had depression in my teenage years.

Anyway, I wouldn't call them Rap-Metal. They're more rogue-rock.

jacka interview

You listen to reggae – and any other music outside of rap?

I listen to soft metal, heavy metal: Isis, Opeth. They’re really good.

Anyway, I wouldn't call them Rap-Metal. They're more rogue-rock.

please send invoice for tonight's drinks to me in thanks for this great lol

holy shit that demagogue song i have not thought of that in forever

i really do think we listened to a lot of the same stuff in early 90s jj (except you hate grunge)

listen a lot to both but think my heart's in metal, so woulda voted that. rap I always feel like an outsider amongst the heads even though I enjoy listening to it.

might be partially biased cos I'm listening to Napalm Death right now tho