Appetite For Destruction- C or D

To answer the question (and yes, Ethan's right, G'n'R are misogynistic scumbags and anti-gay to boot - definitely not moral values I want around if I cared about such things), Appetite for Destruction is classic classic classic. It rocks like a bastard on speed.

Unfortunately, G'n'R as a rock outfit are duds. Even duds can put out amazing work every once in a while.

admittedly, i've never heard it. but, still classic.

i'll buy it one day too

We are still dealing w/the consequences of GnR's angry white rock dystopia, musically and otherwise. This album and Nation of Millions defined the 80's for me.

(USE YOUR ILLUSION albums suffer from bloated production, esp. poor drum mix, excessive album length, preponderance of codas, diluted focus, Axl's shorts, yet still classics awash with classic moments: coda to "Estranged," pedal-down intro to "Shotgun Blues," words to "Pretty Tied Up," etc. Plenty UYI songs would fit on AFD; not "incredibly misleading" at all. Disappointing career path, yes.)

g & r absorbed the career of led zeppelin -- subsumed it, arguably -- with frightening speed, coming right out of the gates with their zoso or, even better, an album filled with "immigrant song"s. but they were a little too good at their studies, advancing to their physical graffiti largely at the expense of the rock, and when they went back to basics it was a little too late.

but, still, appetite for destruction: utter classic. it's what 6th grade sounded like.

I think I was like 8 when it came out? I forget when it came out, maybe a little younger. My friend Jennifer went and bought it with her allowance money, and then her mom took it away when she heard us listening to it and listened to the words. It was pretty sweet.

Gave AfD away soon after disliking much of the "metal crap" on the disc. Never regretted it until last year when we got a Guns'N'Roses pinball machine installed down my bar. Shoot the ramps to hear a dodgy digitsed version of Sweet Child O'Mine. Use the multiball to knock Slash's hat off and hear him swear. Kinda bought it all back. So patchy, but classic.

And, yeah, props for "Rocket Queen."

It is really fun to blast "Welcome to the Jungle" in the car when you're driving over the hill from the Valley into Hollywood after a long trip, though. That's classic.

A famous rock star once told me that she hated dancing to Appetite for Destruction when she was a stripper because they kept changing the time signatures and it made her feel awkward.

Important questions for enquiring minds. As far as 'techno' goes, I'm imagining some hideous familial link to U2's "Zooropa" and "Pop," REM's "Up" ... maybe they'd luck out and sound like Buckethead?

didn't Eric Clapton participate on some side-electronic project?

oh yeah Fred must be serious, because he's right. ;)

"Sweet Child O' Mine" does less for me than "Dream On," "Don't Fear the Reaper," "Dirt," or any Cinderella ballad even, and doesn't come close to "Stairway to Heaven," which relates that particular narrative much more thoroughly and effectively. "Think About You," on the other hand, is really nice. It's probably my favourite song on the album.

You're right, Arthur. I don't know what I was thinking - Aerosmith's Greatest Hits is way better.

Also, "Don't Cry," "Patience," and "November Rain" are among the worst songs ever. (What was the one with the dolphins in the video? That sucked too.) I remember wishing death on Guns 'n' Roses through the first half of high school.

Also remembered how big they really where at school: metalheads, jocks, posh girls, hiphop heads, geeks...everybody loved them.

Appetite is one of the top-10 selling albums of all time so it's no big surprise that its popularity crossed high school fashion statements.

It sounded to me like choppy, funky 70s Aerosmith (who were mostly influenced by the Stones and Stooges) was the direct source material for the guitars (Janis Joplin for the voice and I think I'd prefer her too). The Stooges would never have played those kinds of 'heroic' guitar solos and anthemic riffs like in "Welcome to the Jungle" - it seems quite clear to me that it comes from a more classic hard rock influence base.

Re "Stairway": just the delicacy of Genesis to the apocalypse of Revelation deal, with cries for hell and a much more satisfying guitar solo all included.

I've also come around that if played really loud when really drunk "Enter Sandman" = 100% classic.

guns n'roses much improved on the aerosmith model, mostly because axl rose is a better singer/dancer/lyricist et al than steve tyler. (better than the early jagger, too, for that matter)

i hate to go all "replacements thread" but i don't think anyone who doesn't appreciate g'n'r just a BIT really likes rock'n'roll.

holy shit

i don't listen to rock music because it's dominated with negative egotistical misogynistic crap like this

-- ethan, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (6 years ago) Bookmark Link

tbh I don't trust anyone who didn't play the shit out of this aged 14.

dom i think you missed the defensive irony there

i always think on "sweet child of mine" that he's about to go "ay yi yi yi yi... 'm not your steppin stone"

passantino this thread was started by nude spock who had just spent like 50 threads hating on rap music for being negative and egotistical and misogynistic

cock rock w/o the clever swagger of an early jagger .
-- anthonyeaston, Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:00 AM

early jagger wasn't that clever really and i *like* the stones

fuckin' love this record 2 deth

i forget that nude spock was an actual poster

early jagger wasn't that clever really and i *like* the stones

was loling @ mick/ljagger conflation

doi i'm slowww today...

Man, you think I can keep track of all Nude Spock's wacky pseudonyms?

tbh I don't trust anyone who didn't play the shit out of this aged 14.

It didn't exist when I was fourteen.

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Classic, as is most of The Spaghetti Incident, a good half of the GNR Lies EP, and a good third of Use Your Illusion.

Appetite is the equal of Eat 'Em And Smile as far as rock 'albums' of the era go. Not too many albums from that period are classic from start to finish, but both of these are.

If Don't Cry and November Rain had been on it (like Axl wanted), it would be the greatest rock album by far. As it is, it's the greatest rock album by a little bit.

A famous rock star once told me that she hated dancing to Appetite for Destruction when she was a stripper because they kept changing the time signatures and it made her feel awkward.

-- Arthur, Monday, October 22, 2001 12:00 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Link

I miss Arthur.

it's such a great observation too. Basically every hit has some big change that makes it hard to dance to. Motley Crue is much more strip club appropriate.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s255/gallery1988sf/DaveMacDowellAppetiteForVeruca24x36.jpg

That's the greatest goddamn thing I've ever seen.

I think the Veruca Salt upskirt was a tad unnecessary

one of my favourite guitar records hands down.

no doubt

i also prefer no doubt to this album

dude how you gonna even

slash, dog

slash

WELLL WELL WELLLLLLLLL MY MICHELLLLLLLLE

i've been listening to this on and off in the past few years, after leaving it long, long behind in my early adolescence. and i like it but i'm really not that impressed anymore by the guitars.

lol i would set all the members of no doubt on fire if it meant saving this album

i would do that just to make a nice deluxe reissue with outtakes happen

half the tracks would probably just be Axl spewing racial slurs indiscriminately

If you fuckin wit appetite u fuckin wit tha best

I think the only song I've grown sick of on Appetite is "Sweet Child O' Mine" for obvious reasons.

slash, dog

slash

― some dude, Friday, August 5, 2011 8:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

can't really argue, but the rhythm section..

Yeah matt sorum's shitty drumming killed gnr more than axls craziness

sorta seemed like izzy got edged out post-Appetite/Lies, which was damn unfortunate

i love that really gritty guitar sound on appetite -- so earthy and raw. and seriously, pretty much every last song is scorching riff after scorching riff. i can never enjoy listening to the guitar on the illusion records anymore because it sounds so passive and digital.

sorta seemed like izzy got edged out post-Appetite/Lies, which was damn unfortunate

― notes on camping (Pillbox), Saturday, August 6, 2011 9:47 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

i feel like Use Your Illusion has a pretty healthy helping of Izzy (although he only has writing credits on 40% of the tracks compared to 70% of Appetite). but yeah the Slash book gives a pretty interesting view of how quickly Axl and his team moved to marginalize the other members of the band (legally, musically, etc.) after they got big.

I enjoy this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G--larPOJRw

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/appetite-for-destruction-wins-best-album-of-all-time-if-were-honest-2014062688000

the cowbell game on this shit is sick.

49 unreleased songs????

woke axl is real

Guns N’ Roses have removed the song One in a Million from a forthcoming reissue of their album Appetite for Destruction. The 1980s rock titans have not commented on the decision, but it seems to have been prompted by the song’s lyrics, which feature racist and homophobic language.

so sincere

I look forward to the many one-star Amazon reviews bearing the title "NOT the complete Lies!!!" and criticizing the political correctness of Axl "Immigrants And Faggots They Make No Sense To Me" Rose

what a time to be alive

♪ ♫ i'm not a racist but ♪

♪ ♫ i had to kill her ♪

I am glad they finally removed all the problematic content from this era of Guns N' Roses

he don't want your civil war

these guys always sucked and they always will

the rumors of Woke Axl dating Lana Del Ray are awesome

"Woke Axl" would be a great title for a series of hilarious comic strips in which the titular character self righteously misunderstands all sorts of things, alienating and offending everyone in the process. If I had the talent or the time I'd be all over that.

I don't want to dispel the idea of "Woke Axl", but I think the expanded Appetite only includes the Live Like a Suicide tracks not the acoustic tunes Gn'R recorded for Lies.

The tracklisting includes all three Lies songs other than One In A Million. We've already done this on another thread.

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