has an ilm discussion ever stopped you from listening to music?

i don't mean like when someone makes a convincing argument against hearing something. it's when the discussion around the music itself is so off-putting that you can't be bothered to listen to whatever is being talked about to judge for yourself.

asking only because I was kinda interested in The Weeknd on the basis of the first song posted on their thread but reading all the handwringing there just made me go "ugh am i going to have to think this much about an act I kinda like but am not quite convinced about yet?"

have not yet clicked on the link that apparently leads to all their (his?) new stuff because now i feel like i've got all this baggage i don't need when i'm listening to it. i mean it just seems like so much extreme for a band that, as of right now, seems neither great nor totally horrible.

^^just an example btw - try as much as possible to keep discussion of The Weeknd's merits on their own thread. it's not the first time an ilm beef has put me off listening to something completely even though the artist in question made music I potentially dug.

lol

don't ever listen to anything spelled like this:

The Weeknd

just a quick tip

or a qk tp

skot otm

not nec ilm specofically, but a lot of the time yeah - couldn't bring myself to listen to the joanna newsom album last year until months after people had stopped talking about it. still haven't listened to last year's lcd soundsystem one.

happy that anyone's been put off listening to the weeknd! :)

solid point. though i kinda prefer idiotic spellings to the generic "the weekend" which on top of being boring would be a bitch to google. xp

ha lex

i dont see handwringing, i see an act where some ppl like it & some dont, and both groups express why they like / dislike it. better than gross consensus threads, meat of ilm imo

i don't really keep tabs on bands' ideologies, but when a band is confirmed NSBM-related in one of the metal threads, i make a quick mental note to avoid paying $$ for any of their stuff.

also, doesn't apply *only* to ILM-- but oftentimes i intentionally let the hype die down on new acts for up to a year before i give them a shot, just b/c there's always a great new band being touted by somebody every damn day, and i'd rather wait for the hype to die down on everything, avoid all the love/hate hyperbole and instant reactions, usually also avoid ILM threads on said acts, etc., and then i'll give the music a shot on its own merits once the press dies down. this occasionally involves me having a mega-late pass on acts i would've loved off the bat (The xx, Glasser both come to mind), but i'd like to think i avoid a lot of worthless hyped new acts in the process. so yes, often when ILM goes batshit over something, i'll avoid it for a while on purpose.

^^ curious if anyone else does the latter, btw

oooh yeah the xx was another one - i didn't like them on the outset, hated them even more after reading things written about them ilm, but have kinda slowly come around to them since.

i should prob avoid threads on hyped acts but it's a bit hard to predict which ones are about to blow up (for every batshit ilm thread, there's five more with sad lonely posts where one guy posts an update every two months or so) and by the time you read through one, it's too late to turn back.

d-40: agreed and i usually enjoy a good debate but there are some debates that just don't seem worth having. of course, ymmv on which music is and isn't worth debating about.

about them *on* ilm

If I had ever wanted to check out Dave Matthews Band properly, I suppose all the bitching from his Googling fans in the "reason why they are so bad and hated..." thread might have stopped me....

better than gross consensus threads, meat of ilm imo

the meat of ILM is in no way "gross consensus threads" -- more like people stick to posting on threads abt artists they enjoy, while ppl who don't like an artist stay away or post once & then don't bother

(a trend i aim to buck w/ my art brut thread revival. HORRIBLE)

you can't beat ILM's meat!

That band Yuck. My friends keep telling me to listen to it, but considering their median age is about 5 years older than me I figured there'd be some level of influence I'd be completely ignorant of. Thread here confirmed it.

I admit that the overwhelming creepiness/corniness of Destroyer threads adds some baggage to listening to Destroyer. Which is not a big deal cuz Destroyer isn't all that anyway.

i meant that the non-consensus threads were the meat of ilm, wrote that confusingly

I've never read a Destroyer thread (I don't think), but I already don't like him. What's so creepy/corny?

people expressing "enthusiasm" and "excitement" ugh

xposts In the case of Yuck though, the band members are MUCH younger than they ought to be for getting misty-eyed about the music they're referencing, so being younger than they are might actually help in enjoying them. I dunno.

yeah those destroyer threads are...something. that rubies one. wow. who were all those people? that actually gets my vote.

u soft if u cant handle the taste of lex' bile on yr indie-signifier laden rn'b

Whenevr Geir posts that he likes a band or song, I almost always know that I will not like it and usually steer clear of it. Does that count?

(No offense, dude, I just don't get almost everything you espouse. I am sure the feeling is mutual.)

geir loves power & death metal

lol I like almost everything Geir likes. But when he hates on something, I know I've got to check it out!

i like a lot of geir's taste in '80s synth/new-wave music but nothing recent iirc

No, because ILX actually has an interest in music beyond celebrity worship. Places like Pulse Music and UKMix are more likely to put me off to an artist with their "Your favorite could never" stanning attitude over their favorite flavors of the moment. "Stanning" is such an off-putting subculture in music fandom.

^otm

You can discuss Linkin Park here and be taken p seriously.

well, probably not me, but possibly lex or any other anti-indie music nerds we have on here

I'm not so much into discussions which are about an artist's audience, or why someone is famous or written about and someone else isn't. Also don't really get second-guessing an artists intention, or judging who or what is real or not. Find this kind of thinking quite alien

None of this particularly puts me off listening to anything, its more that the music I actually like isn't particularly interesting, and the music that might be interesting to read about isn't often what I like to hear (and I don't have any particular urge to keep up with 'things in general' or have any set opinions)

I suppose a sudden thing that everyone is talking about that I haven't heard in a way I feel like its invading my space and demanding I listen to it. I mean this in a "600 new answers" where the everyone becomes an anonymous blob rather than actual friends

This is more so with stuff people dislike than like tho its definitely with both

yeah with you on that - i tend to not like threads where people discuss the responses to the music, as opposed to actually responding to it. i mean there have been instances where this is interesting, but most of the time, i find those kinds of debates pretty boring.

rarely has it actually put me off the music itself though - usually i just click on the youtube linx and ignore whatever's being said.

Dissensus has the power to put me off all music forever. Or just go off and play Jet out of spite.

I don't put much stock in it at all. Sometimes when someone whose opinion I don't respect raves and raves about something I avoid it, but that is typically an offline situation. Online, I don't give a crap what people say.