Deep Sad Cave Music

Long shot, but it's Saturday and why not?

On quite a few of Tangerine Dream's 70s albums they have a section of beautiful, wistful ambient stuff that sounds like it shd be on a documentary about ancient Egypt or something. The last stretch of Rubycon is the best example I can think of - analogue-y washes of synth with half-melodies over the top and a plaintive flute-sounding line over that. The very end of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yugcp0zL2wY

has got it but I can't find a proper Tube of the whole last section.

Anyway I want to listen to stuff that sounds like this all day. Anybody got any ideas? New age-y but non-cheesy and with that cavernous remoteness I think is what I like.

how about some Klaus Schulze.. not a million miles away from that TD sound..

Timewind / Picture Music / Mirage / Dune

that's a good idea. never really checked out Schulze's stuff, always meant to.

i don't know, most early popol vuh would surely fit this description too?

Pauline Oliveros -- Deep Listening, Crone Music, lots more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wyp4czvG1do
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That's a good one. It's a distinctive wonky analogue synth sound I think that gives those Tangerine Dream records their effect, a sort of slow wheezing that ages the sound. Liking all the suggestions on this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym7SH8a385s

perhaps?

Stuart Dempster - Underground Overlays from the Cistern Chapel

(cf. Deep Listening)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggFIq5rYMQ4

So are you looking for ambient that's got a feeling of "the eerie but pretty unknown" (non-space related and perhaps archaic sounding given the option)?

I haven't listened to much ambient or instrumental/electronic prog lately but I'm sure Camel has some songs that fit that feeling

How about Stranded on Reigal 3 from Pete Namlook and Tetsu Inoue's Shades of Orion 3? That's definitely cave-y and deep. Fucking cavernous in fact.

I would have said Steve Roach was all over this but where to start? Dynamic Stillness? Atmospheric Conditions?

One thing I've tried to push on anyone who will listen (including elsewhere here) is Evening Air, Freeway Birds, No Wind Birds by Kent Sparling.

You can get all 60 minutes of it from Amazon for 69p so it doesn't matter if it's not what you're looking for, but I love it.

And what about Robert Rich? Maybe too New Age-y?

Maybe Windy & Carl?

And one more Klaus Schulze - Moondawn

I've just remembered you've been to Lanzarote NV, right? Did you go to any of the places built by Cesar Manrique? They played this kind of thing all over those. One particular album I kept hearing was Musica De Los Elementos by Solár - some of it is a bit twee and it definitely falls into new age-y-ness but some tracks have that cave feeling you're looking for.

There's also an album by Mathias Grassow recorded at the Cueva de los Verdes (which is a cave formed out of a lava tubes and is an excellent place to hear this stuff if anyone happens to be there) called the..er...Lanzarote Concert. Would have loved to have been there for that.

OK, one more - Sternklang by Tholen. Gives me the fear in places though, a bit like the musical equivalent of Alien.

You could do worse than the Blade Runner soundtrack. And about twenty other Vangelis albums.

Sorry been away. We did go to Cesar Manrique's house Ned, it's a thing of beauty absolutely. Didn't get to attend a concert in that cave but I can only imagine how awesome it must sound.

These kind of threads always end up reminding me that things that sound just so aren't a limitless resource: I think the instant availability of history via the Net makes me forget that sounds can be preciously individual. I like the fact that we can guess and approximate bands's shticks, I like the fact that certain noises make us realise how great texture is.

Also cheers guys lists of things worth hearing are always good.

thanksgiving -cave days and moments

The Laraaji track "A Cave in England" was recorded in... wait for it... a studio in England (but then they overdubbed drippy wet cave sounds on top).

http://youtu.be/6KeS01YlgcA

(That's weird--the YouTube "Share" link didn't embed. So follow the link.)

Maybe that Isolationism compilation that Virgin put out as part of their History of Ambient series (iirc it was Vol.4) It was all stuff like Main, Scorn and Labradford, actually Labradford themselves might be worth checking out.

I know Labradford pretty well, like them but don't think they quite fit this.

On mature reflection I think it's the flute-synth more than anything else that makes this sound for me. Also yesterday I got hold of this http://www.discogs.com/Shades-Of-Orion-Shades-Of-Orion-2/release/123351 and it's really fitting the bill.

maybe this would work?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmEB8LgWTEw

Thomas Bangalter - rectum (Irréversible OST), sad cave music
Alistair Lindsay & Michael Maidment - a-g(Defcon OST), sad cave music

Some of the pieces on Alice Coltrane's Glorious Chants have this feel.

Good thread. The Tangerine Dream track (the first part) sounds like the beggining of The Exorcist.

iirc Friedkin actually wanted TD to do the soundtrack for Exorcist

I would have said Steve Roach was all over this but where to start? Dynamic Stillness? Atmospheric Conditions?

The three Immersion releases and Early Man, easy.

Oh yeah - the Immersion tracks are great. I was listening to first light from that last night. That's some deep shit right there.

Darkest before Dawn is another one, but lacks the flutes you desire.

We did go to Cesar Manrique's house Ned, it's a thing of beauty

My daydreaming around winning the hundred million euromillions last friday centred on building my own Manrique house on the northern coast of Lanzarote...sadly it was not to be. Any house with a corridor like this...
http://travel.spotcoolstuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/house4.jpg
...needs cave music.

And talking about Shades of Orion - Inoue's solo album Inland might fit the bill.

that shoenberg recording is v. nice. any idea what recording it was taken from?

"schoenberg" that is

I love this stuff. It's like floating in one of those sense deprivation chambers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-Sre0VEoVQ

bump it up to 1080p for some sub bass!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euTPP8JrlEo

Maurizio Bianchi: Armaghedon

Just got re-issued on vinyl in the last two years. Smeary, non-cheesy cavernous remoteness, could easily score a documentary on barnacle formation.