― dave (Dave225), Thursday, 29 August 2002 09:39 (twenty-three years ago)
― Venga, Thursday, 29 August 2002 09:46 (twenty-three years ago)
like "It's meat in your mouth and the unholy stench of murder" .. except I like that one...
― dave (Dave225), Thursday, 29 August 2002 09:58 (twenty-three years ago)
Um...not necessarily, Steven.
― Venga, Thursday, 29 August 2002 10:13 (twenty-three years ago)
― Siegbran Hetteson (eofor), Thursday, 29 August 2002 12:40 (twenty-three years ago)
I haven't listened to The Smiths for so long now I can't recall enough of the lyrics to pick a Worst...
― DG (D_To_The_G), Thursday, 29 August 2002 12:50 (twenty-three years ago)
Worst lyric: "I've come to wish you an unhappy birthday / Cos you're evil and you lie / And if you should die /I may feel slightly sad {But I won't cry)".
It'd not that bad, mind. Just daft.
― Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 29 August 2002 13:29 (twenty-three years ago)
...vs. "Eat meat, hate blacks, beat yr fucking wife-it's all the same thing!" FITE.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 August 2002 13:37 (twenty-three years ago)
vs. the idea that it is possible to compare processes and notions of limits of responsibility/culpability without some wag insisting that you must mean that the things compared are exactly the same in every conceivable way.
― Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 29 August 2002 13:48 (twenty-three years ago)
― DG (D_To_The_G), Thursday, 29 August 2002 14:01 (twenty-three years ago)
vs. the idea that a booming gap in the magnitude of the issues discussed make the comparison irrelevant, self-serving and punchable.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 August 2002 21:36 (twenty-three years ago)
― OleM (OleM), Thursday, 29 August 2002 22:20 (twenty-three years ago)
Well, I agree. Wives aren't being beaten on anything like the scale of the other things discussed. Therefore violence against women (and probably sexism in general) is not something to be compared to other examples of arbitrary imposition of inferior status. That's that sorted!
So yeah, it's irrelevant. But I wasn't wasn't the one who introduced the subject. In defence of Ned Raggett, however, since I get the impression he's not a woman, I doubt it was self-serving exactly. Punchable? Nah, not that either.
― Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 29 August 2002 22:32 (twenty-three years ago)
― DG (D_To_The_G), Friday, 30 August 2002 11:47 (twenty-three years ago)
The bomb the bomb the bomb the bomb the bomb the bomb the bomb
is this an A bomb or a bouncing bomb?
― Krankenhaus, Monday, 30 August 2004 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― Krankenhaus, Monday, 30 August 2004 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)
Grooo!
― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Monday, 30 August 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Monday, 30 August 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)
I dunno, I always found "Ask" to be kind of playful in an apocalyptic sort of way, so that bit never bothered me.
As for my own vote...
I was pretty active on alt.music.techno back in the day, and at least once a week some troll would feel the need to blunder in and post, verbatim, the chorus to "Panic" along with some feeble tirade about techno sucked and how we all needed to listen to some "real, human-produced" music.
Now, as much as I love me some THUMPATHUMPABEEPBOOP music, I've been a Smiths fan for almost as long - even in spite of Morrissey's well-documented dislike of all things dance. So seeing a song that I enjoyed being used against me quite naturally raised my ire.
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 30 August 2004 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)
CND = Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament? That's interesting. I always just understood it as a general sentiment of "The world could be blown up any minute so no time to be shy - ASK ME!" And, yeah, thought that singsongy repetition of "the bomb" was M's trademark ironic black humour (= "playful in an apocalyptic way"?).
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 03:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 03:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― zappi (joni), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 08:13 (twenty-one years ago)