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What's he WORST Smiths lyric that has always bugged you?

dave (Dave225), Thursday, 29 August 2002 09:39 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm still thinking about it. There are so many ....

dave (Dave225), Thursday, 29 August 2002 09:39 (twenty-three years ago)

"Meat Is Murder" wins easily.

Venga, Thursday, 29 August 2002 09:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Sorry - I mean one, single lyric. (line or couplet..)

like "It's meat in your mouth and the unholy stench of murder" .. except I like that one...

dave (Dave225), Thursday, 29 August 2002 09:58 (twenty-three years ago)

"and the flesh you so fancifully fry is not succulent, tasty or nice, it is death for no reason and death for no reason is MURDER".

Um...not necessarily, Steven.

Venga, Thursday, 29 August 2002 10:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Those lyrics would be great if they had acknowledged that eating plants is murder too...

Siegbran Hetteson (eofor), Thursday, 29 August 2002 12:40 (twenty-three years ago)

When I saw Morrissey in 1999 he had this little mantra that went "The slave trade, the Holocaust, the meat industry". Should this be in the 'A-1 Idiots' thread on ILE I wonder?

I haven't listened to The Smiths for so long now I can't recall enough of the lyrics to pick a Worst...

DG (D_To_The_G), Thursday, 29 August 2002 12:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Nothing wrong with "The slave trade, the Holocaust, the meat industry". It's simplistic (put like that), yes, but not idiotic.

Worst lyric: "I've come to wish you an unhappy birthday / Cos you're evil and you lie / And if you should die /I may feel slightly sad {But I won't cry)".

It'd not that bad, mind. Just daft.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 29 August 2002 13:29 (twenty-three years ago)

"The slave trade, the Holocaust, the meat industry".

...vs. "Eat meat, hate blacks, beat yr fucking wife-it's all the same thing!" FITE.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 August 2002 13:37 (twenty-three years ago)

"The slave trade, the Holocaust, the meat industry".
...vs. "Eat meat, hate blacks, beat yr fucking wife-it's all the same thing!" FITE.

vs. the idea that it is possible to compare processes and notions of limits of responsibility/culpability without some wag insisting that you must mean that the things compared are exactly the same in every conceivable way.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 29 August 2002 13:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Oops I've started a FITE oh no!

DG (D_To_The_G), Thursday, 29 August 2002 14:01 (twenty-three years ago)

vs. the idea that it is possible to compare processes and notions of limits of responsibility/culpability without some wag insisting that you must mean that the things compared are exactly the same in every conceivable way.

vs. the idea that a booming gap in the magnitude of the issues discussed make the comparison irrelevant, self-serving and punchable.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 August 2002 21:36 (twenty-three years ago)

"Half a Person", I guess. It's bad enough to base a song on one line being interesting/funny, but one letter...

OleM (OleM), Thursday, 29 August 2002 22:20 (twenty-three years ago)

vs. the idea that it is possible to compare processes and notions of limits of responsibility/culpability without some wag insisting that you must mean that the things compared are exactly the same in every conceivable way.
vs. the idea that a booming gap in the magnitude of the issues discussed make the comparison irrelevant, self-serving and punchable.

Well, I agree. Wives aren't being beaten on anything like the scale of the other things discussed. Therefore violence against women (and probably sexism in general) is not something to be compared to other examples of arbitrary imposition of inferior status. That's that sorted!

So yeah, it's irrelevant. But I wasn't wasn't the one who introduced the subject. In defence of Ned Raggett, however, since I get the impression he's not a woman, I doubt it was self-serving exactly. Punchable? Nah, not that either.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 29 August 2002 22:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes punchable because he then played 'Meat Is Murder' which is possibly the worst song by anybody ever GRRRRRRRRRRRR

DG (D_To_The_G), Friday, 30 August 2002 11:47 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...
"Ask"

The bomb the bomb the bomb the bomb the bomb the bomb the bomb

is this an A bomb or a bouncing bomb?

Krankenhaus, Monday, 30 August 2004 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Ok yes it is kind of clever, neutralising a sort of taboo-at-the-time word, but it still irritates me

Krankenhaus, Monday, 30 August 2004 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.trinityofiniquity.com/s2e21-22/s2e21act3d.jpg

Grooo!

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Monday, 30 August 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I always heard that line as referring to earnest, shy young things getting together over CND activity, but I'm willing to be convinced otherwise.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 30 August 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

The bomb the bomb the bomb the bomb the bomb the bomb the bomb

I dunno, I always found "Ask" to be kind of playful in an apocalyptic sort of way, so that bit never bothered me.

As for my own vote...

I was pretty active on alt.music.techno back in the day, and at least once a week some troll would feel the need to blunder in and post, verbatim, the chorus to "Panic" along with some feeble tirade about techno sucked and how we all needed to listen to some "real, human-produced" music.

Now, as much as I love me some THUMPATHUMPABEEPBOOP music, I've been a Smiths fan for almost as long - even in spite of Morrissey's well-documented dislike of all things dance. So seeing a song that I enjoyed being used against me quite naturally raised my ire.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 30 August 2004 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I always heard that line as referring to earnest, shy young things getting together over CND activity

CND = Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament? That's interesting. I always just understood it as a general sentiment of "The world could be blown up any minute so no time to be shy - ASK ME!" And, yeah, thought that singsongy repetition of "the bomb" was M's trademark ironic black humour (= "playful in an apocalyptic way"?).

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 03:16 (twenty-one years ago)

But maybe that works even better if they are anti-nuke protesters -> he's appealing to his 'friend''s political ideals!

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 03:18 (twenty-one years ago)

WTF??? there is a Groo film???

zappi (joni), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:19 (twenty-one years ago)

zappi, I second yr wtf? comment. It is U&K that all the details on this are made known to us NOW.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 08:13 (twenty-one years ago)


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