favorite song that's vulgar/sexist?

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Even though I usually cringe somewhat when faced with lyrics that are (um) rude to women or talk about sex in a less-than-sexy way, I laugh my pants off at the Rotters' "Sit on my Face Stevie Nicks" and Vom's "I'm in Love With Your Mom," and that can't be much different from any similarly themed Frank Zappa or Anal Cunt song.

What are your favorites, and do you feel any guilt or apprehension about liking them?

Jody Beth Rosen, Thursday, 29 August 2002 16:33 (twenty-three years ago)

You're asking for just one song? Let's start with the Frogs...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 August 2002 16:36 (twenty-three years ago)

"Bring On the Nubiles" by the Stranglers and "Find Her, Feel Her, Fuck Her, Forget Her" by the Mentors.

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 29 August 2002 16:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Whoops, forgot to answer the second part. Do I feel guilt or apprehension for liking them? Absolutely not, as I can appreciate the humour involved.

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 29 August 2002 16:46 (twenty-three years ago)

I like 'Prime Mover' by Zodiac Mindwarp & The Love Reaction.

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 29 August 2002 17:20 (twenty-three years ago)

"Hellhound" by Sir Lord Baltimore. Or "Troglodyte" by the Jimmy Castor Bunch. There's so many. No, I do not feel any guilt or apprehension for liking them.

Arthur (Arthur), Thursday, 29 August 2002 17:27 (twenty-three years ago)

"RAPED" by the Frogs.

Manny Parsons (Rahul Kamath), Thursday, 29 August 2002 18:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Peaches in general (a nice friction betweeb vulgarity and intelligence) esp. the very clever re-work (more than remix) of Basement Jaxx's 'Get Me Off'.

DJ Assault, like...everything.

Omar, Thursday, 29 August 2002 18:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Pussy Galore, "Cunt Tease"
too many rap songs to count

hstencil, Thursday, 29 August 2002 18:46 (twenty-three years ago)

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"Fist Fuck Her" by The Leather Nun -- They played it in concert and i've been trying to find it on record ever since -- fourteen years ago.


You already mentioned FZ, but "I Have Been In You" just gets me goofy. ¥

christoff, Thursday, 29 August 2002 18:50 (twenty-three years ago)

On the "vulgar" side of things, Ben Folds Five's "Retarded (Bad Idea)" revolves around the concept that a bad relationship makes Benjamin feel like he's mentally disabled, and the demo version fades out with some humourous "spazz" noises.

It's brilliant.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 29 August 2002 18:57 (twenty-three years ago)

"Hong Kong" by Screamin Jay Hawkins

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 29 August 2002 20:16 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm a big fan of Eminem and the Rolling Stones. As for vulgar, She Swallowed It by NWA is a top track, while for real vintage sexism I recommend the classic blues Woman's Been After Man Ever Since by Blind Alfred Reed.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 29 August 2002 20:21 (twenty-three years ago)

no scrubs!!

simon trife (simon_tr), Thursday, 29 August 2002 20:25 (twenty-three years ago)

that would be AMG's "Bitch Betta Have My Money": "A ho is a ho/A bitch is a bitch is a bitch/So!"

M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 29 August 2002 20:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Prime Mover by Zodiac Mindwarp & The Love Reaction.

the song is about me.

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 29 August 2002 20:31 (twenty-three years ago)

matos! once i picked up the bitch betta have my money single in sam goody but realized i didnt have the money for it so i left it in the middle of the tori amos section!!

simon trife (simon_tr), Thursday, 29 August 2002 20:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Blowfly to thread...

hstencil, Thursday, 29 August 2002 20:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Simon = my new hero

M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 29 August 2002 20:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Rudy Ray Moore to thread...

hstencil, Thursday, 29 August 2002 20:38 (twenty-three years ago)

"Too Drunk To Fuck" is great for the "take out your fucking retainer put it in your purse" line, which is just out of nowhere and weird. Plus any song that ends with disturbingly authentic vomit sounds is fine by me.


Back in the day I heard some weird uptempo gabba-ish .MOD file that ruled all. It started with something from Vivaldi's "Seasons" that skipped, got "scratched" and then was interrupted by a sampled/cut-up Ice-T (?) shouting "low motherfucker/dirty bitch" over and over, which was then followed up by "hooker hooker suck my dick/nigga nigga suck my dick" and concluded with a sample of James Earl Jones (?) saying "watch who you're callin' 'nigger'". Damn I wish I remembered what the name of that song was.

Nate Patrin, Thursday, 29 August 2002 20:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Matmos to thread...

hstencil, Thursday, 29 August 2002 20:46 (twenty-three years ago)

whoops, I meant Momus to thread.

Staying too long at work goofing off on the intanet = dud.

hstencil, Thursday, 29 August 2002 20:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Should we even mention David Allan Coe? We'd be here all day...

"Dear Penis, I don't think I like you anymore."

paul cox, Thursday, 29 August 2002 20:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Momus + Matos = Matmos?

Jody Beth Rosen, Thursday, 29 August 2002 20:57 (twenty-three years ago)

not quite. not hardly.

M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 29 August 2002 21:03 (twenty-three years ago)

not quite. not hardly.

*feels a chill come over the room*

Jody Beth Rosen, Thursday, 29 August 2002 21:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, DJ Assault - "Asses Jiglin" is a particular winner. Also "Dick By The Pound" with all-time greatest DJ A lyric "Bitch don't laugh / I'm a give you a tongue bath". There is a great Viz strip lurking within DJ Assault's records.

That Khia song is very good.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 29 August 2002 21:33 (twenty-three years ago)

"Big Road" is one of Jon Spencer's better songs yet marred by a "that faggot" holler.

bnw (bnw), Thursday, 29 August 2002 21:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Erm, "Lurad" by Björn Rosenström? :-)

OleM (OleM), Thursday, 29 August 2002 22:02 (twenty-three years ago)

my favorite dj assault is probably the unforgettable (especially when played over the store soundsystem when you're closed up for the night counting cash) "big booty hoez (and sluts too)", featuring such lines as "you say ho/i say slut/big booty bitch/big ass butt." as pure as ryoji ikeda.

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 29 August 2002 22:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Mum & Dad "Lady Porno" and Fabulous "Destined To Be Free" "I don't give two fucks about ya, I just wanna rip it up ya"

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 29 August 2002 23:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Hmm, I don't remember that yell at all, but I sold Extra Width ages ago so I can't investigate.

hstencil, Thursday, 29 August 2002 23:21 (twenty-three years ago)

"bad intentions" by dre is filth, funky-as-fuck filth with a flute = ace.

michael w., Friday, 30 August 2002 06:53 (twenty-three years ago)

How about:
Entrails Ripped from a Virgin's Cunt by Cannibal Corpse - I don't like it but it should get a (dis)honourable mention here.
Girls of Porn by Mr Bungle is amusing
Man Needs a Maid by Neil Young I find problematic every time I hear it.
And Triad - David Crosby's plea to two girlies to let him make it with 'em both is nauseating.

Roger Fascist, Friday, 30 August 2002 07:12 (twenty-three years ago)

What about The Smiths Some Girls are Bigger than Others? "Ooh I say ... some girls' mothers are bigger than other girls' mothers" etc etc.

Paul Cunningham, Friday, 30 August 2002 07:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Under My Thumb/Stupid Girl by the Stones.

nathalie (nathalie), Friday, 30 August 2002 08:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Kiss' "Plaster Caster" is always worth a giggle or three

dave q, Friday, 30 August 2002 08:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Rampage's "Misogyny Thy Name Is Woman"?

Siegbran Hetteson (eofor), Friday, 30 August 2002 08:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Wasn't Frank Zappa's taking the piss (qiel surpris) outof the song "I'm In You" by some schmaltzy 70's soft rocker? Not that he hasn;t got lots of entertainingly sexist stuff, or is it that he just mocks everyone?

tigerclawskank, Monday, 2 September 2002 08:02 (twenty-three years ago)

On the recommendation (ahem) of Hip Hop Connection (also because he's a Surrey boy like me) I downloaded Slick Rick's "Adults Only" and it is indeed very dirty and quite enjoyable though also quite creepy in the same sort of slightly-too-intense way that Uri Geller is on I'm A Celebrity...Get Me Out Of Here!

Tom (Groke), Monday, 2 September 2002 09:27 (twenty-three years ago)

that one offa the dr. octagon album. or "i wanna bust up a virgin ass" offa TLASILA's "helen butte vs masona pussy badsmell" cd

bob snoom, Wednesday, 4 September 2002 11:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Too $hort - 2 Bitches
Ludacris - What's Your Fantasy (Remix ft. Trina, Foxy Brown et. al)

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 4 September 2002 12:14 (twenty-three years ago)

"Piss Up A Rope" by Ween

"Dirty Nursery Rhymes" by 2 Live Crew

Enid Roach (Enid Roach), Wednesday, 4 September 2002 17:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Lucille Bogan/ Bessie Jackson is really vulgar and it's from the 20s.

A Nairn, Wednesday, 4 September 2002 19:48 (twenty-three years ago)

My favourite song as per thee question is the yeastie girls/consolidated'd "you suck". It is pretty rude "you suck/get down/and move your tongue around!" and it rhymes "erection" with "yeast infection". That, or Momus' "Coming in a Girl's Mouth" anyway.

Thee Leather Nun rekord referred to somewhere above is called "F.F.A." and it was a double-a-side with this unbelievably awsome piece of Odinist heavy metal called "Prime Mover". I remember hearing "Prime Mover" on the old Janice Long show, which was a vastly superior equivalent of the evening session. I remember Ms Long (who should still be on national radio IMO) going on about this scandinavian band who had some big badass sexpistolish reputation in their home country.

Then she played "Prime Mover". I remember that the radio was very very quiet, but this SOUND seemed to swell out and fill the entire room.

It took me years to get a copy, and in fact I only got it b/c their cover of Abba's "gimme gimme gimmme" was a minor indie hit. IIRC thee original issue was on Industrial Records and is thus probably unobtanium now. I got this 12" single reissue then - thee front cover featured a photo of an S/M nun wielding a whip. Not in the least bit comical, it was a really extreme image & was rather frightening. The back cover was a photo of a really muscular man's forearm all greased up. "Prime Mover" did not disappoint, even though my mind had built it up somewhat over thee years. It was FILTHY loud.

The other side was hard to take. It was done in this scuzzy disco style, and I quickly learned that "F.F.A." stood for "fist fuckers associated". The lyrics are totally, totally full on - "you don't remember me/and I've forgotten you/but it's not so very long ago/that we fist fucked too" "shit on my knuckles/pain up thee ass for you" and suchlike. IIRC, the whole scenario is m/m, not m/f, so it isn't "fist fuck her", though the singer's accent is such that this would be an easy error to make.

all these years on, I suspect that "Prime Mover/F.F.A." is probably still one of thee most extreme rekords ever made. Sadly, I don't think I have my copy anymore. If anyone knows of a CD reissue, please let me know

N0RM4N PH4Y, Wednesday, 4 September 2002 21:53 (twenty-three years ago)

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Norm-

So cool you spotted this; i only heard it the thing in concert so it's good to know where to look -- not that much of the Nun's stuff is readily available or anything.

Forces Me to Hear Barry Manilow til My Brain Hurts

¥

christoff (christoff), Thursday, 5 September 2002 20:07 (twenty-three years ago)

"Erm, "Lurad" by Björn Rosenström? :-) "

ja vilken skit

Jens (brighter), Friday, 6 September 2002 03:58 (twenty-three years ago)

I used to love lots of songs like this and I wanted to make a compilation tape of them. Incl 'Weep Woman Weep' by Sticky Filth (you wouldn't of heard this nz skinhead band but the words incl 'I kicked her, I bruised her' etc), and Guns and Roses 'I used to love her but I had to kill her.' I think the appeal of this genre was the so obviously heart on the sleeve reverse of what these guys were saying coming across: fuck I needed that girl and I never would say these things if I didn't need her so very badly. I mean, written all over misogyny is a real obssessiveness - as with all hatred, I suppose. I guess that's the appeal of the entire genre: 'He hit me and it felt like a kiss' - yeah I understand what that means. Who wants Jerry Seinfeld's boring well-adjusted misogyny, when you can possess a misogynist you could actually make an impression upon? Bessie Smith: 'I'd rather my man would hit me, than for him to jump up and quit me.' But she means a little bit more than this.

The fascination with these songs works on lots of levels, but not least is the ironic amusement at hearing men reveal themselves - you never reveal yourself more than when you talk about what you supposedly hate - there is a real weakness to that.

I think these songs are only interesting if the author's desperation is revealed. I don't mean through a lack of confidence - the classic misogynist is supposed to rave on about how great they are. If - as in the case of some punk bands from middle class families posing as misogynists - it's obvious that you're just 'adding' misogyny to your personality to make yourself more interesting or something ... come on. I don't trust Eminem's misogyny - aesthetically, I mean. There's something just a little bit too 'well fed' about him. Misogynists have to have the scent of the disappointed romantic about them: 'cynics are disappointed idealists.'

But I suppose that misogyny has become a little bit too subtle to employ the really obvious backdrop of 'I was in love with one woman, who betrayed me,' qua Casablanca - that is very fifties. Now you can blame pornography: 'they're all hos deep down ... I'm jaded, overloaded by image after image, burnt out on the idea of women as anything but a receptacle, I can only operate at the level of porn jokes and it's not really my fault.' But I find this type of misogyny boring because it's not so formally simple. It's too shallow. It spreads too widely, it's too new-historical and not mythical enough.

maryann, Friday, 6 September 2002 07:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Frank Zappa ... some of his songs are okay but the jokes???? I've never heard Anal Cunt but every time I hear about them I guess I jump to the 'Southpark, Eminem' conclusion. Eminem likes to talk about how much Southpark influenced him.

maryann, Friday, 6 September 2002 07:32 (twenty-three years ago)

three months pass...
"KKK Bitch," Body Count.

JS Williams (js williams), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 10:30 (twenty-three years ago)

And Triad - David Crosby's plea to two girlies to let him make it with 'em both is nauseating.

What about the Jefferson Airplane version (with Grace Slick on vocals?)

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 12:54 (twenty-three years ago)

This is a thread about the Angry Samoans.

The Angry Samoans.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 13:12 (twenty-three years ago)

I can't decide between "Doctor Dick" by Lee Perry and "Raindrops" by Keith and the Impact Allstars. The former concerns a medical man specialising in injections. The latter is a bawdy version of "Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head" which has to be heard.

Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 13:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Frank Zappa's jokes in writing are often very funny, but in his music they're usually pretty stupid. I crack up whenver he sings the line 'Evelyn, a modified do-og' but thats just me.

Back on topic my fave has to be Metallica's cover of 'So What'. Can't remember who did it originally but the lyrics are just so so stupid I really hope they weren't being serious.

meirion john lewis (mei), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 14:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Old-style r&b. 'I've got a woman', 'Shake, rattle & roll' etc.

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 15:02 (twenty-three years ago)

What's wrong with being sexy?

, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 15:10 (twenty-three years ago)


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