Tim Buckley and Jeff Buckley -- in what order did you hear them?

I heard Jeff first, then checked out Tim, and Tim is the man! But so is Jeff, and I like them equally for different reasons.

i like more jeff songs than i like tim songs

but i love happy/sad more than anything jeff ever did

afaik, never heard either

You've probably heard Buckley's version of "Hallelujah" somewhere sometime w/in the last few years. It's in the air.

er, Jeff Buckley's version

heard Tim first, checked out Jeff but could never get into him. a friend of mine is a total Jeff fangirl and has never even bothered to check out Tim. this makes me sad

Call me bonkers, but I don't consider them as being 'linkified', really.

Jeff is not Julian Lennon, his voice is his own.

They both play(ed) acoustic, that's about it.

... true, but how many people got into John Lennon because they heard Julian first? Probably less than the number of people who got into Minnie Riperton when they heard her daughter was SNL's Maya Rudolph? Or from Liza to Judy?

Yeah, but John being pretty much ubiquitous, it'd be impossible to do that, especially now.

I doubt that anyone got into Minnie because of Maya, but then I don't know Maya.

Liza to Judy is probably a high number because of the reference/reverence/relevance link.

I heard Tim first, checked Jeff out, will always prefer Tim

ditto

I heard Tim first, never really checked out Jeff.

I must have heard Tim first, being as how I used to watch the Monkees show, back in the day.

I heard Jeff first, then checked out Tim, and Tim is the man! But so is Jeff, and I like them equally for different reasons.

― Johnny Fever, maandag 9 mei 2011 7:17 (4 hours ago) Bookmark

^^ This. If I'd have to make a pick it's Tim, easily, but I do enjoy Jeff's music as well at times.

xp - The Monkees tv show was were I first heard Tim Buckley - truly a bizarre moment

Well, I liked the idea (I'm sure), having cool guest artists...

Of course, seeing as how that was the final Monkees episode ever, it never happened again.

Tim Buckley > Lord Buckley > Jeff Buckley

I've had Goodbye and Hello since high school; I was barely able to get through the one Jeff Buckley CD I have.

Tim Buckley > Lord Buckley > Alan Buckley > Jeff Buckley

Jeff first. I've heard a bit of Tim which I enjoyed, but not really sat down and listened properly.

heard tim first. was suspicious of jeff, but that was foolish. love them both equally.

Tim Buckley > Lord Buckley

Both on "Straight" Records (courtesy Zappa)

He was fond of his Buckleys, Frank

Heard This Mortal Coil first, then checked out Cocteau Twins, then checked out Tim. Love Starsailor, Lorca and L.A., dislike everything else. Overheard Mojo Pin later, loved it, still love it, don't care for much else of Jeff.

I heard Jeff first, then checked out Tim, but I prefer Jeff.

Knew Tim from mid 80s onwards, think I picked up Starsailor in '86. Picked up on him a lot more after getting into Dream Letter in '90. Picked up his cds throughout early 90s.
So it was cos of that that I went to see Jeff when he first played dublin in '94. Was very impressed , solo singer with a Telecaster that he was doing surprising things with.
Then really liked the band with Mick Grondahl etc.

Only recently hearing anything of a backlash against Jeff. Surprised by a bunch of people at the olidarity camp calling Grace bad music.

I think the problem some people have with Jeff, certainly I do, is that it all sounds a bit callow and immature. It's essentially music for teenagers to moon about the meaning of life to.

Heard Jeff first, followed up with a little bit of Tim, didn't really get into either past Grace and Starsailor.

Don't understand why there's three "Jeff first..." variations and only one for Tim. Anyways: Heard Tim first, saw Jeff live, preferred Tim, checked out Grace, still preferred (and prefer) Tim.

Heard Tim first, never really liked him. Was surprised I liked Jeff so much when I heard him later.

And I probably listen to Lord Buckley more than either father or son.

"Hipsters, flipsters and finger-poppin' daddies, knock me yr lobes!"

Jeff first, through a roommate in college. Liked it enough to pick up Grace at the time, but never investigated him further. Tim has been on my list of artists to check out forver, but haven't really sought anything out yet.

Heard Tim first, checked out Jeff and fucking hate his awful shit. Tim is patchy but his highs are very high.

going with "I heard Jeff first, then checked out Tim, but I prefer Jeff" if only because I can still enjoy Jeff's Buzz Bin track one-hit-wonder style and have yet to hear some Tim I've got the same affection for.

that said, I can imagine getting into some Tim Buckley in the future moreso than finally discovering the magnificence of Jeff

read about starsailor way back in spin's 'alternative record guide' and haven't really listened much to jeff

ha that entry was my first real awareness of Buckley, and after all the talk about his jazzy whoops and hollers and whatnot, having his cover of Tom Waits' "Martha" (off a tribute comp) be the first thing I heard was probably not a good thing

it all sounds a bit callow and immature. It's essentially music for teenagers to moon about the meaning of life to.

― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Monday, May 9, 2011 1:52 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

i don't know about this. for me it's about the intensity of performance & depth of feeling but that's why my all-time fave jeff was the various live versions of 'eternal life'

Those live versions of "Eternal Life" were fucking vicious. And he would do lots of feedbacky stretching out on that one, too.

I have Tim's "Blue Afternoon" and it's nice (played properly one time).

I have Jeff's "Live at Sin'e" and started to play it on a half-hour drive home, but 10 mins from home the motorway was jammed and so I ended uo listening to the whole thing.

Which is probably the best way to hear it: Thought it came over as a great gig, enjoyed it, but then nothing else was quite as cool as that time.

I do get amazed by how many people cite him as an influence, of course precious few would have anything to do with what influenced *him*, but hey that's how it goes.

I heard Jeff first, then checked out Tim, and Tim is the man!

heard Jeff first, played the shit outta Grace, Sketches, couple of his live albums around junior-senior years of high school, checked out Tim later in college years, prefer Tim slightly, like Jeff pretty well but I've played his stuff enough to never need to hear it again... have a feeling I'll get deeply into Tim in the coming 10 years or so. for now, Happy Sad and Starsailor are good enough for me!

also, this is lol:

his son, Jeff Buckley, the alternative rock artist with releases from 1993-1998

never heard tim. don't like jeff.

listening to tim now for 1st time.

lovely voice. not for me.

Heard Jeff first, then Tim, don't particularly care for either. I guess I like Tim a little better, but none of these choices appear to fit my situation.

tim, especially on starsailor, sounds too much like kermit the frog being tortured for me to really appreciate it

looool yeah his voice/affectations are the big roadblock to me really getting into TB

tim, especially on starsailor, sounds too much like kermit the frog being tortured for me to really appreciate it

argh please don't say stuff like this, it is spot on and I will never hear this as anything else ever again.

he goes on one of those "yaaaaaaoooooooooooooeeeeeeeeeeeeee" jaunts and i just start laughing i have to skip ahead

heard jeff first, in the wake of grace. loved a few tracks, but wasn't sold overall. went back and listened to tim years later. would say i like and respect them both now, though i'm not a huge fan of either.

i actually read the 'Dream Brother' book before getting a Tim Buckley best-of and was kind of disappointed by how much more exciting i'd imagined his music would be like than it actually sounded to me

yeah likewise, it seems to me critics tend to overplay his 'jazziness' and 'experimentation' when, save for starsailor, he was kinda boring if pretty

i love happy/sad cause it kinda feels like nick drake on codeine

ie boring/pretty

Jeff first. I like what I've heard of Tim* just fine but none of his stuff has had the same impact on me that Grace did.

*Greetings From LA, Goodbye & Hello, Starsailor, in that order.

I sought out Tim Buckley based only on "Song to the Siren" as covered by This Mortail Coil. Quickly deciding that I *strenuously* preferred the cover over Buckley's lamentably wobbly original, I didn't give him further thought until hearing Jeff Buckley. Before hearing Jeff Buckely, I wanted to hate him for being a pretty-boy cashing in on his dad's name. And then I heard the Grace and forgot about all that nonsense. And then his mother lambasted me online for once recommending the downloading of Jeff's cover of "I Against I" by ye olde Bad Brains.

yeah my first exposure to any Tim Buckley music was a live cover of "Song to the Siren" by a singer named Chris Lee and that's kind of overshadowed the original or anything else for me.

his mother lambasted me online

hahaha what

I heard Tim first, then checked out Jeff, and liked Jeff better (but I also think Tim is nice).

There's not much of a real musical reference in between is there?

the kind of keening voice & guitar virtuosity is the connection i think

also fandom by a certain kind of nerd

/iamone

Yep, I downloaded an acoustic, jokey cover of Jeff Buckley playing a surprisingly faithful cover of "I Against I" off of Scour, and then told folks about it on the late, lamented iMusic boards.....only to have the man's mother fire off a needlessly nasty "cease and desist" e-mail to me. True story.

Tim on the Monkees TV show 1968. so weird - as if Jeff performed on an episode of BH 90210 or Melrose Place

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMTEtDBHGY4

i heard tim buckley first when starsailor got the ryko reissue and due to this mortal coil. but I honestly prefer jeff.

And then his mother lambasted me online for once recommending the downloading of Jeff's cover of "I Against I" by ye olde Bad Brains.

clearly she's gotta limit illegal downloads if people are gonna buy her at-least-once-yearly jeff buckley reissue/vault/greatest hits package. anything announced for 2011 yet?

haha i did see that monkees episode! certainly way before i'd even heard of jeff. or tim.

There's not much of a real musical reference in between is there?

Not really. To my ears, Jeff sounded more like Steve Forbert than like his dad.

some real gems in tim buckley's late period imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgpu2dDY0Iw

tim, especially on starsailor, sounds too much like kermit the frog being tortured for me to really appreciate it

argh please don't say stuff like this, it is spot on and I will never hear this as anything else ever again.

― Tim F, Monday, 9 May 2011 19:28 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Apologies for bringing up the marked resemblance to Jimmy Saville then

Never heard either of them.

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Think Jeff would be more suited to Dawson's Creek IMO

Heard Tim first, kinda liked some of his stuff. Am always a bit suspicious of anyone who clearly gets more attention than they would have at the start of their career because their mom or dad was famous, even though in this case it was a mostly-absentee dad. First time I heard Jeff was when I punched up "Lover, I Should Have Come Over" on a Tower Records headphone listening station (remember those?) and was mesmerized. Remember seeing an newspaper advert for his upcoming show at the 9:30 club in DC. Decided to wait until he had another album under his belt before seeing him live. Will never forgive myself for missing that show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc7blE6kXsI

^ First time I heard Jeff Buckley was on the BBC2 Late Show

Never heard either of them.

― Tuomas, Tuesday, May 10, 2011 11:46 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

u would hate them imo

not horrorcore enough

So, basically, Jeff made his first album at the same age as his dad when he made his last?

That's a heck of a long wait to earn his chops, to be quite fair on him. He must have wanted to do it to wait that long.

See this thread

Jeff first, then Tim, prefer Jeff at the moment. Starsailor seems cool but I need to listen to it more.

um, that thread has no "Buckley" on it, so porquois?

Seems to have some resonance, if only in terms of artists making their first albums in their late-20s

Hasn't the average age of new artists (especially rock artists) been steadily increasing over the last 50 years though? In the 60's you had kids who hadn't even finished school on Top of the Pops, whereas most people now have done 4 years of college, maybe a few years in a dead-end job, maybe a masters, before they get signed.

I agree, along with a proclivity for releasing new material.

T/S: Tim Buckley vs. Lord Buckley

Jeff's not really on my radar.

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I surprised that the ILM crowd overwhelmingly heard Jeff first (49 to 37).

I'm not -- I was 12 when Grace was released and most of ILM seems younger than me or no more than a couple years older, and I feel like you'd have to have been an adult/pretty up on music to have known about Tim well before '94.

I knew there was a significant contingent of young people on ILM, I just see a lot of regulars who are over 40 and "pretty up" on music. I guess I caught myself off guard realising that Grace is nearly 20 years old.

Tim's stuff was also out of print for a good while; I didn't hear of him until the reissues around 1990 or so.

I definitely knew about Tim first, in one of those "100 Greatest Albums of All Time" books from 1987, but nothing about its skeletal writeup of Starsailor compelled me to check it out. Seven years later, there's Grace, so I got into that first, and then dug Starsailor (right before it went back out of print, apparently).