But I think they are nearly all good.
I also think that ILM works best when a diverse range of opinions converge on a single topic, rather than when people are forced by weight of numbers to pick and choose their areas of interest.
So: a proposal, to keep the numbers slightly lower and create a breathing space where existing threads can stretch out a bit.
One new question per person per day. (Excepting FT Article Responses and Pop-Eyes and stuff like that, when they return).
No new questions at weekends.
Any comments on this? I'll put something on the post-a-question page. This would be an on-trust rule rather than something coded into the way the forum works, by the way.
Thanks!
― Tom, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Dr. C, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Guy, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Patrick, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Back to the questions, then!
― DJ Martian, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Can any of the regulars recommend old threads? Memorable debates, where opinions were challenged and discussed at length Eg - 'the trashiness of great pop', or 'Rock vs Pop' or 'Rock vs Rap' (I can't remember)
― K-reg, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
What I WOULD suggest is maybe if a thread CAN evolve, people don't post brand new questions along the lines of, "As discussed in such and such other thread..." and instead discuss it in the thread. I understand there is a bit of a hardship in this because that means the subject won't necessarily agree but perhaps there could be some way for people to edit the question header to reflect multiple topics? Then again, the most blatant abuse of "As discussed in such and such thread" was done by someone trying to irritate everyone so it's really not going to help much in that case.
So, yeah, one question per day: good. Having no-question-days: bad.
― Ally, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― , Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― the pinefox, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Heybuddy: it is one thread per person per day. i.e. you can post a thread. Ally can also post a thread. Ethan can post a thread. And so on.
DV: You can do this kind of - go to the 'new answers' bit on the front page and you get the forum viewed by update.
Ally: I cant code anything into the way the forum works unfortunately re. editing headers. Only admin ppl can do that i.e. me, Josh and Nicole. The weekends thing - we'll see what happens. If it doesnt work we'll drop it.
― Nicole, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
And yes, if most anyone listens I'll be amazed.
As I said, if you're going to shut down posting questions on certain days, then you might as make it the admins job to post the questions entirely - this way you can be certain the new threads that do make it on here aren't going to be self-aggrandizing crap, nasty flames of Simon Reynolds, or stuff that exists in an old thread.
The real problem is not that there are too many threads. It's that there are too many pointless threads. But short of deleting them whatcha gonna do?
Yeah there are loads of posts at the weekend but they're always by the usual suspects. If I only came online at the weekend I'd never ever read ILM, it would be mad, you couldnt follow anything. That said if someone turns up on this thread on Saturday and says hey I only post at weekends I will obviously revise the 'policy'.
― Nick, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Josh, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― fred solinger, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Geordie Racer, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Dan Perry, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― lisa s, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― alex thomson, Friday, 4 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I was going to make a really awful joke about Josh keeping Tom's ass in gingham, but that would be wrong.
― Dan Perry, Friday, 4 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
A floral print would be more figure flattering anyway.
― Nicole, Friday, 4 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
1. c or d an artiste(s) 2. s + d " 3. compare two albums by said artiste
- fuxache have we discussed MBV and CAN enough yet or are we gonna get more microscopic - i prefer multiple questions onna thread - gives the thread breadth + depth - i reckon to to s+d on an artist with only one album out is fuckin hilariously shit - what next - whats the best verse in 'seasons intha sun' ?
― if you must offend....do it flagrantly !, Saturday, 5 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― the pinefox, Monday, 7 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Omar, Monday, 7 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
- so which was the best Erasure album and was loss of The Assembly a cruel blow to UK music, lyle lovett vs. nanci griffith(?), who would advertise dandelion and burdock, should record companies be allowed to give freebies to fans to get there records bought, has any great record been made with the TR505, if japan had won the war what would we have been listening to, who is the most versatile remixer,aaaaaaaaarrrrrggggghhhhh
― Geordie Racer, Monday, 7 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Robin Carmody, Monday, 7 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Where did everyone go?
― mark s, Monday, 7 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
(although this should return.)
― jess, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
lol
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Saturday, 26 August 2023 02:54 (one year ago)
An innocent time
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 26 August 2023 04:42 (one year ago)
retvrn
― vashti funyuns (sic), Saturday, 26 August 2023 05:30 (one year ago)
all the threads are good, but there are too many of them
― ciderpress, Saturday, 26 August 2023 05:47 (one year ago)
The thread police, they live inside of my thread.
― The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 August 2023 10:35 (one year ago)
OP was just over a month before the ILE breakaway splittist faction struck and stuck
― mark s, Saturday, 26 August 2023 10:54 (one year ago)
I still want to know what happened to Momus Momus Momus
― The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 August 2023 11:03 (one year ago)
ilx is in it's early 20's now, a bit too old for his tastes
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 26 August 2023 11:07 (one year ago)
xp
Whatever happened to DG? Not spoken to him in years since Chatz
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Saturday, 26 August 2023 11:07 (one year ago)
a few weeks back and a few streets away, in the city i just moved to, this👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼 opened (i have yet to patronise it)
https://i.imgur.com/YTZC9l2.jpg
― mark s, Saturday, 26 August 2023 11:09 (one year ago)
I didn’t mean the person, the personality, I meant the category of thread and thread categories in general.
― The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 August 2023 11:21 (one year ago)
lol calz
― Grandall Flange (wins), Saturday, 26 August 2023 11:22 (one year ago)
Oh yeah lol.
― The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 August 2023 11:27 (one year ago)
One thread per day… What a bad idea. 20 threads per month would have killed ILM a long time ago. It’s easier to cold shoulder the threads you don’t care about and there’s the option to not display polls if you hate those.
A solution that I would code is each user can only post one thread per month. It’s not as strict and makes the users double think what they want to discuss/poll
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 26 August 2023 15:29 (one year ago)
every poll you create costs you one year of your life, feel like this would set a tone even tho it would have no practical effect
― my full length poll (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 26 August 2023 15:33 (one year ago)
this is already in effect, we just didn't tell people
― mark s, Saturday, 26 August 2023 15:36 (one year ago)
no killing what can't be killed
― my full length poll (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 26 August 2023 15:36 (one year ago)
Lol
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 26 August 2023 15:39 (one year ago)
Because these polls they give meThey give me the creeps anymoreToo many threads Too many threads
― Chris L, Saturday, 26 August 2023 16:15 (one year ago)
as this thread predates my own awareness of ilx by a couple years, and I mostly lurked around because this place was super intimidating (still intimidating? but I used to be an anxious teenager, so)
was it considerably busier two decades ago? and how many regulars were there? never seem to catch more than 50 or so active users at a time these days, at peak hours, but there are ~9000 registered users
― Florin Cuchares, Sunday, 27 August 2023 06:06 (one year ago)
which is still very modest I think considering the age of this forum and the general quality of content (lol) but really what a tremendous job of moderation and administration and I think I understand why people googleproof certain names and 77 and etc
― Florin Cuchares, Sunday, 27 August 2023 06:12 (one year ago)
idk why but i'm reading that original post like it was written by Shel Silverstein.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 27 August 2023 06:51 (one year ago)
it was a lot busier, yes. Also, please bear in mind this thread was started before DG created ILE.
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Sunday, 27 August 2023 08:31 (one year ago)
Around 2003 I would sometimes get caught in a loop of reading all the threads updated that interested me, refreshing, seeing a bunch of new updates and I could just keep going like that.
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 27 August 2023 08:36 (one year ago)
How would anyone get anything done! I like ilxors current pace, far more manageable
― H.P, Sunday, 27 August 2023 12:56 (one year ago)
Huge long considered posts too. Threads very rarely reached 100 posts. They were celebrated as milestones when they did.
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Sunday, 27 August 2023 12:59 (one year ago)
It was a simpler time. Plus ILX threads were all deindexed for a long while.
― The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 August 2023 13:00 (one year ago)
but you didn't need to register to post so random googlers and angry mailing lists/other boards showed up, lol
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Sunday, 27 August 2023 13:02 (one year ago)
Sorry, can you explain deinxed?
― H.P, Sunday, 27 August 2023 13:38 (one year ago)
*Indexed, good lord
― H.P, Sunday, 27 August 2023 13:39 (one year ago)
Deindexed = hidden from g00gle. (Hidden from all search engines? idk)
― The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Sunday, 27 August 2023 13:46 (one year ago)
I liked the misspelling:)Means it wasn't showing up in Google searches
― The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 August 2023 13:46 (one year ago)
(xp)
In any case there seemed to be more time, it just seemed to be more private, some of us were typing from laptops and desktops instead of phones, not as many people had died, it was still fun to interact with Momus etc.
― The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 August 2023 13:49 (one year ago)
Of course some new ILX0rs were born as well so we replenished.
― The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 August 2023 14:22 (one year ago)
it was still fun to interact with Momus etc
citation needed :|
― mark s, Sunday, 27 August 2023 14:29 (one year ago)
ILX threads were all deINXSed for a while
― I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Sunday, 27 August 2023 14:33 (one year ago)
Sorry if this is a dumb q, but why does Tom E no longer post here (or does he?)
― Stoned Wheat Thing (morrisp), Sunday, 27 August 2023 14:38 (one year ago)
because of the grocery groin post
― I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Sunday, 27 August 2023 14:41 (one year ago)
He was playing evil genius and we were all the occupants of the vat in which he used to make observations for a paper he wrote about the lifecycle of message borads iirc.
― The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 August 2023 15:01 (one year ago)
deINXSed
I need ilx tonight, cause I'm not sleeping
― Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 27 August 2023 15:02 (one year ago)
_it was still fun to interact with Momus etc_citation needed :|
― The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 August 2023 15:03 (one year ago)
Threads very rarely reached 100 posts. They were celebrated as milestones when they did.
I remember it was a big deal when the Aerial thread hit 1000 posts, circa 2005
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 27 August 2023 16:14 (one year ago)
wasn't this the first 1000+ thread?
Jay-Z / Nas hip-hop throw down? & other throw-downs?
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Sunday, 27 August 2023 16:22 (one year ago)
and it ran to Jay Z/ Nas and other hiphop throwdowns...resurrected. Part 4
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Sunday, 27 August 2023 16:23 (one year ago)
I don’t believe you, you need more posters
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Sunday, 27 August 2023 16:55 (one year ago)
DMB thread was famed for being very long iirc
― The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 August 2023 16:57 (one year ago)
iirc try glasgow more (on ILE, mind you) was the longest thread ever at one point
― jaymc, Sunday, 27 August 2023 17:13 (one year ago)
funny that what's become the default Pitchfork thread (21,000+ posts!) started with 30 posts in 2002 and then lay dormant for 5 years before being revived
― jaymc, Sunday, 27 August 2023 17:15 (one year ago)
Pretty sure top three are:
2008 Primaries Thread: 7253+Your 2008 Presidential Candidate Speculation Thread: 7238try glasgow more: 6800+
I think a Chicago thread from a couple years ago might be 4th. Dave Matthews only has about 2500.
― jaymc, Wednesday, February 6, 2008 6:04 PM (fifteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― jaymc, Sunday, 27 August 2023 17:20 (one year ago)
If I can stay focused, the Immaculate Grid thread will be over 10,000 by the end of 2024.
― clemenza, Sunday, 27 August 2023 17:22 (one year ago)
The DMB thread would periodically be revived by random Googlers (some of whom stuck around a minute, IIRC), so it was sort of the gift that kept giving.
― Stoned Wheat Thing (morrisp), Sunday, 27 August 2023 17:24 (one year ago)
Sorry if this is a dumb q, but why does Tom E no longer post here (or does he?)Tom has started, grown, and abandoned-after-decline several other internet and IRL communities in the meantime. (His current one has been given an end-of-life target in the last few weeks.)
― vashti funyuns (sic), Sunday, 27 August 2023 17:40 (one year ago)
Tom delete all the 50 favorite threads now, please!
― The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 August 2023 18:03 (one year ago)
Sorry
j/k
― The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 August 2023 18:39 (one year ago)
― Grandall Flange (wins), Sunday, 27 August 2023 18:44 (one year ago)
Tom's music polls were just about the only decent thing about Twitter when I left it, if those come back on a new platform I'd consider joining it just for that
― imago, Sunday, 27 August 2023 19:01 (one year ago)
he's on bluesky calmly posting as he usually does
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 27 August 2023 19:26 (one year ago)
― my full length poll (Noodle Vague)
i'm already over my statistically allocated lifespan, which i think means that knocking years off my life has no effect whatsoever.
― Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 27 August 2023 20:20 (one year ago)
Tom's music polls were just about the only decent thing about Twitter when I left it, if those come back on a new platform I'd consider joining it just for thatlol I was so annoyed by these at their peak. I didn't even follow the account, but they were all over my timeline.
― jaymc, Sunday, 27 August 2023 20:53 (one year ago)
Tom's music polls were just about the only decent thing about Twitter when I left it, if those come back on a new platform I'd consider joining it just for thathe moved them to a dedicated site but not enough ppl joined the platform so moved back to twitter for a deathrun
― vashti funyuns (sic), Sunday, 27 August 2023 21:02 (one year ago)
aw, I'd have helped (lol)
guessing its presence on this new platform no longer exists
― imago, Monday, 28 August 2023 07:35 (one year ago)