R&B/Rap tracks where the dance remix is superior

List and discuss them here.

1. Beyonce - Ring The Alarm - Freemasons Remix

2. Missy Elliott - Lose Control - Thin White Duke Remix

3. Toni Braxton - Unbreak My Heart - David Morales Remix

4. Faith Evans - Mesmerised - Freemasons Remix

5. Ciara, Deuces (Nguzunguzu Remix)

NB. I'm mostly thinking unashamed "club track" rather than say 2-step/funky/dubstep (mostly because I could list stuff in the first two groups for days and days) etc but feel free to bend rules

:( that is a huge chunk of the dance music I like (at least most of the dance music I like that would remix r&b joints)

6. Jennifer Hudson - Spotlight (Quentin Harris Space Battle Homo Remix)

:( that is a huge chunk of the dance music I like (at least most of the dance music I like that would remix r&b joints)

Absolutely. This thread is tracking something rather more rare.

Excellent choice for no. 6! And in that vein:

7. Jill Scott - Whatever (Quentin Harris Remix)

(as good as it is the Theo Parrish remix of "Slowly Surely" is not in the spirit of this thread)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiEvGY5A6PE
8. Mariah Carey - Make It Happen (C&C Music Factory Remix)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP7tnXErlws
9. Deborah Cox - Nobody's Supposed To Be Here (Hex Hector Club Mix)

YES

1. Beyonce - Ring The Alarm - Freemasons Remix

such a rong choice to kick off such a great thread ;_;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yHrvuWeaGI

are there any examples of the rarest group of all - turning an r&b original that's actually bad or middling into something great? because most of these originals are pretty stellar too tbh

also just to pre-empt more rongness, i had better NOT see that solange/freemasons remix up in here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJPcFpmhQp8
11. Chaka Khan - Love You All My Lifetime (Love Suite Opus Mix)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jrVhgPGctY&feature=related

12. J. Holiday - Bed (Seamus Haji Remix)

12. All Saints - Chick Fit (Kissy Sell Out's Excellent Adventure Remix)

One of the best remixes of the 00s, period.

It's just an incredible odyssey of various electro and d&b breaks, but it doesn't loose track of the original tune either.

6. Jennifer Hudson - Spotlight (Quentin Harris Space Battle Homo Remix)

This is the ultimate answer to the question, there basically isn't a better example at all. It's monstrous.

the switch remix of p diddy & xtina's "tell me" is a good example, cuz the original really isn't that special but the remix is a monster. (but the full version of it, with the astonishing acapella moment, isn't on youtube.)

13. Kelly Rowland - Work (Freemasons Mix)

(This is SURELY the best Freemasons remix)

14. Kelis - Trick Me (Basement Jaxx remix)

Think there needs to be a hidden house diva lurking within the original, which is why the Jennifer Hudson/Quentin Harris track works so well. One of the annoying things about the last Kelis album for me was the way it cut the corners of this process.

xpost to Lex, love that switch remix!

Great thread. There are a lot of great David Morales mixes of Mariah Carey tracks, don't know which to pick.

15. Usher - OMG (Almighty remix)

13. Kelly Rowland - Work (Freemasons Mix)

(This is SURELY the best Freemasons remix)

but again, definitely not superior to the original!

6. Jennifer Hudson - Spotlight (Quentin Harris Space Battle Homo Remix)

omg this iss amazing

tiefschwarz remix of missy's "teary eyed" IS superior to the original and, again, not on youtube

The only youtube of Spotlight I can find is the "Quentin Harris Dark Collage Club Mix" - is the "Space Battle Homo Remix" much different?

(i think that's one and the same)

judging the epic homo space battle that is the last 3 mins

Yeah it's one and the same, 'Space Battle Homo' is just a phrase I made up to describe it a few years ago. Happy it caught on in some way.

tpp, this thread may be relevant to your interests:

Seek and Discover: Intergalactic Avant-Gay Dance Music

Jodeci's "Freek'N You" (MK Dub)

The Freemasons remixes of "Work" and "I Decided" are more dance-pop than club remix IMO. I'm thinking more 8 min+ space battle homo material.

arrrrrrrrrrrg! thanks tim

been asked to dj at a friends gayish night in a few months and i want to make the whole thing as intergalactic as possible

tbh this thread could be filled up with quentin harris remixes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fge3FpPQhno

Think there needs to be a hidden house diva lurking within the original

Not r&b but this was my exact thoughts on hearing the Basement Jaxx remix of Adele's "Cold Shoulder"

one of the finest youtube montages ever:

http://youtu.be/mKduDZFJErA

My first thought was the Angie Stone, though the Pound Boys Stoneface Bootleg Mix rather than the Hex Hector one.

Loved the early 00s trend of two-step remixes - Bills Bills Bills, Thong Song, It's Not Right But It's OK, etc.

Jodeci - "Feenin" (LTJ Bukem mix)

because it's otherwise vanished from the internet, the tiefschwarz remix of missy's "teary eyed" - http://www.sendspace.com/file/yq8ct8

That reminds me - Tiefschwarz remix of Kelis's Trick Me is classic.

1. Beyonce - Ring The Alarm - Freemasons Remix

such a rong choice to kick off such a great thread ;_;

Don't get me wrong, I love the OG, but I think the remix is actually the finest exhibition of Beyonce's sheer implacability ever.

it def is. best tiefschwarz remix of all was probably "kinda new", though that doesn't belong here. they were a bit godlike for a while there.

xp

that similarly vanished diddy/xtina/switch remix: http://www.sendspace.com/file/hypk4v

(Really really hate that you made me google the phrase "Quentin Harris Space Battle Homo Remix" before realising that was not the official title.) #gullible

it's such a perfect descriptor that i forgot it wasn't the actual title until someone else brought that up

Best Tiefschwarz mix is Feels Like Love, which still gets played out occasionally nowadays. The Missy one is good, although if I remember correctly there's not very much Missy actually in it?

Strikes me that there should be a load of Diddy that qualifies here but I can't actually think of any.

The Armand Van Helden mixes of All about the Benjamins are good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaTAaK-_gYw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-QjwbKT8YQ

damn that angie stone track is good.
i have none of her stuff. something i clearly need to sort out.

Whoops. Wrong track. This:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KFwYiJD1Po

spent 10 minutes looking for space battle homos

16. kelis - bossy (fred falke & alan braxe remix)

Strikes me that there should be a load of Diddy that qualifies here but I can't actually think of any.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lowH1KmvQZI

Not so much a dance remix that though.

True, true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR0WMdIqxus
Like the Jason Nevins/Run DMC and Junkie XL/Elvis remixes, this is one of the rare cases where a remix was a bigger hit than the original.

Wtf maybe in your country

here's a great old-fashioned sexy latin house remix of Keri's "Return the Favor"

btw hi Siegbran, long time no see - hoping to see you in the mersh house thread too!

ooh, forgot about an even better Mariah:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcGW72pH6bM

Don't want to imply that Bring The Noise is/was in any way obscure or anything, but I don't think it was even released as a single internationally. So bigger hit everywhere in the world except at home - good enough for me.

duh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMXFIXHYayA

oh yeah duh. just kind of think of that as its own thing tho usually, but i realize the lines are arbitrary.

i kinda prefer the original on that one although the ME version works differently

sacrilege

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uzT8dNntMg
Beyonce - Broken Hearted Girl (Alan Braxe Remix)

the dub is EPIC... one of my top Bey tunes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUxyvCnGhHk
Toni Braxton - I Don't Want To (Frankie Knuckles Remix)

WOOF where has that deb cox mix been all my life!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-un6DXV5mtQ
Eartha Kitt - Where Is My Man? (Joe T. Vanelli Attack Mix)

CHOOON! so camp!

do ppl dig the Richard X remix of "Goodies"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnhJ66Bp1DA

that's cool but the OG is kind of untouchable

I love the original but I wouldn't call it "untouchable"

(won't lie that part of my appreciation of this remix is that more syncopation always appeals to me)

Have NEVER been able to find it, but I really like the Roy Davis Jr. remix of Mary J. Blige's "Deep Inside."

(Never online, I mean. I used to have the vinyl back in '99.)

you mean roy's love 4 mary j mix?

WOOF where has that deb cox mix been all my life!!

― r|t|c, Tuesday, May 24, 2011 4:03 AM Bookmark

I feel like that's prob the most famous mix on this thread!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjg3YeaBsuc

i wonder if this would count

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xst5AV1Tik

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-L-PhKxe5M

you mean roy's love 4 mary j mix?

― just sayin, Tuesday, May 24, 2011 4:06 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

OMG yes. (Though listening to it now, it doesn't sound quite as great as I'd remembered. Oh well.)

http://blog.jordanshaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/mariahcarey_designerdrugs.gif

Surprised to see no mention of Bobby Brown / K-Klass on this thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hft-VAH7OpI

can't believe i never posted this here btw, not quite the commercial tip of the thread but it fits...really one of my favourite records ever, totally legendary with me and my friends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTy6CdAeXLk

And, if mash-ups count? In which case here's another I can't believe hasn't been mentioned already:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7yn6spOAFI

weirdly i've never liked that version. the bassline lacks the punch of the original, the warbling acoustic feel of it always bothers me.

bobby brown k-klass remix is my jam.

seiji : loose lips (bitasweet) / qtip : breathe and stop (acapella) (elektra)

^^ anyone heard this mashup?

there is also a j majik VIP of "get ur freak on" that i always liked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LkbqzlBeao

the hoovers at 1:24 and the stabs at 1:36 make it better than the original

also the vicious wandering bongo rolls

black-n-groove = maurice joshua

man i heard this amazing house-y remix of crazy in love the other day but i can't track it down anywhere. it started off repeating uh oh uh oh uh ohuh oh for ages then lead into this storming build up and release. any ideas?

this is so amazing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6QKVRfqUg4
especially the 9 min version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay2Pj5uZRwU

How did this thread happen with no Mariah/Morales?

tamia - stranger in my house (thunderpuss club mix) http://youtu.be/HdEAq9QDIDk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ErtFAY356o

not really in the spirit of the thread (too garage-y) but i adore this mix

thread needs more pound boys surely

Don’t think it really fits here (too groovy to be space battle homo and I don’t think the original was a hit or anything), but this is just glorious - and miles above the original:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSeednxGmpU
Stephanie Mills • Free (The Layabouts Vocal Mix)

(The Layabouts are South African, I believe)

The original, for contrast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF7JferTGGk

Fantasia - not the way i do (Jovonn rmx)
https://soundcloud.com/louloufute/fantasia-not-the-way-i-do-jovonn-remix