Most drastic stylistic change ever?

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So I was listening to "Smash Sumthin'" -- that track that Adam F did with Redman -- and I'm thinking about how weird the situation is. Three years before, Adam was doing all sorts of hippie-jazzbo trip-out Roni Size-ish drum and/or bass (a lot of it pretty fucking swank; that Grooverider remix of "Dirty Harry" is never going to get dislodged from my Top 20 tracks of the '90s no matter what), and then all of a sudden in '01 he comes out with a record of sleek, glossy, completely THUMPING hip-hop tracks featuring a metric kilofuckload of famous emcees. So how (and why) does one go from "The Tree Knows Everything" to "Greatest Of All Time", and who else has done something so drastic?

Nate Patrin, Wednesday, 4 September 2002 19:48 (twenty-three years ago)

New (hopefully non-Bowie) answers here.

Nate Patrin, Wednesday, 4 September 2002 19:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, you could say it was pretty contrived, but the jump between THE JOSHUA TREE and ACHTUNG BABY seemed pretty drastic at the time.

Likewise (although with a little more humour), the shift between the hippy goth shenanigans of LOVE by the Cult and the gloriously stoopid metal tomfoolery of ELECTRIC by the Cult probably put off a lot of folks who were expecting more music to do wavey arm dances to instead of headbanging.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 4 September 2002 19:54 (twenty-three years ago)

eno glam-amb,
Scott Walker 60s vocal pop-Tilt

A Nairn, Wednesday, 4 September 2002 19:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Ulver's shift from Darkthrone-cloning aesthetic deconstruction to 19th century romanticist acoustic folk to Coil-esque movie soundtracks/soundscapes should qualify...

Or Metallica's shift from a rabid speedmetal horde to sedate rock'n'roll/country balladeers.

And of course the Beatles, the Beach Boys, Motorhead, The Prodigy, Johnny Lydon, Burzum, Genesis, Beherit, Brian Eno...

Siegbran Hetteson (eofor), Wednesday, 4 September 2002 20:07 (twenty-three years ago)

OK first you had "Odelay", "Mutations", "Midnite Vultures", "Sea Change" -- I think Beck's making a career of it.

Nate Patrin, Wednesday, 4 September 2002 20:31 (twenty-three years ago)

OK: "Odelay", "Mutations", "Midnite Vultures", "Sea Change" -- I think Beck's making a career of it.

Nate Patrin, Wednesday, 4 September 2002 20:31 (twenty-three years ago)

DAMMIT

I suppose Primal Scream does that sorta thing a lot too. Changing styles, I mean, not fucking up double posts.

Nate Patrin, Wednesday, 4 September 2002 20:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Paul McCartney: from a skiffle bassist to The Fireman.

Siegbran Hetteson (eofor), Wednesday, 4 September 2002 20:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Tim Buckley?

wl, Wednesday, 4 September 2002 21:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Aaliyah

A.V. Alexandre (Keiko), Wednesday, 4 September 2002 22:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Alanis

static, Wednesday, 4 September 2002 22:40 (twenty-three years ago)

seeing as they've been brought up a lot recently - Underworld..?

ryan, Wednesday, 4 September 2002 23:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Talk Talk obv.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 5 September 2002 06:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Motorpsycho

Joost, Thursday, 5 September 2002 06:52 (twenty-three years ago)

There's quite a fair gap in the Beastie Boys canon, between, say, the hardcore by numbers of "Egg Raid On Mojo" and the bossanova chilled-outness of "20 Questions".

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 September 2002 06:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Cornershop.

Anyway isn't it relatively easy for someone like Bowie to change style as he just gets a different backing band in? Whereas a real proper honest to goodness band who play their own isntruments have a tougher time changing style. Though obviously Primal Scream made huge changes in stlke with different producers and remixers.

tigerclawskank, Thursday, 5 September 2002 07:27 (twenty-three years ago)

As Tim Finney just said, Talk Talk... but surely this is the most complete and dramatic of all changes...

... but then there's Dexy's, who did it three times in three albums, with schizophrenic depth of sincerity each time.

NB ...

U2's jump to Achtung Baby was a jump BACKWARDS. In 1979 when everyone who mattered was white funk paranoid apocalyptic ironic, U2 started their sincere anthemic celtic thang, which they followed until about 1990, when they suddenly realised who had been better in the first place and came over all PiL/Pop Group!

jon, Thursday, 5 September 2002 08:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Moby's animal rights. he did thrash versions of the Everything is Wrong stuff for a while.

Thompson Twins?

Alan (Alan), Thursday, 5 September 2002 08:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Compare/contrast: Boredoms' Chocolate Synthesizer and Rebore Vol 0.

dleone (dleone), Thursday, 5 September 2002 10:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Two of my favorite bands, Unrest and His Name Is Alive, seem to redefine themselves almost every album.

Unrest: punk > metal-tinged hard rock > experimental/jangle pop (with various anomalies along the way). Most drastic change - between _Kustom Karnal Blackxploitation_ and _imperial f.f.r.r_.

His Name Is Alive: it doesn't do them justice to generalize, but...ethereal 4AD > the indescribable _Mouth by Mouth_ > 60s-tinged pop > Hendrix rock > soul (with countless anomalies along the way - reggae, folk, country, noise, gospel, you name it).

Ernest P., Thursday, 5 September 2002 11:37 (twenty-three years ago)

this is your bloody valentine
ecstacy / strawberry wine / sunny sundae smile etc
isn't anything
loveless

andy

koogs, Thursday, 5 September 2002 11:48 (twenty-three years ago)

How about the entire career of Bill Drummond from 1977 to the present day? (Taking in along the way Bunnymen manager, Creation solo artiste, ambient producer, author, novelty hit-maker, 'art' terrorist...etc)

tacit, Thursday, 5 September 2002 12:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Husker Du shifted gears from Hardcore to Zen Arcade pretty quickly if your looking for drastic in terms of time period.

Bowie I think made a career out of changing styles/personnas. The man who feel to earth became Ziggy and the thin white duke and is currently making techno albums. Which may not be too big a stretch from his Station To Station album if he hadn't wound his way through Berlin and toted Stevie Ray Vaughan around.

The Rolling Stones were changing pretty bad by the end of the seventies, flirting with glam and psychedlia.

Neil Young went from garage rock with The Squires to hippie to folk singer to barber shop quartet to rock and/or roll to country, then to whatever Tonight's The Night counts as, back to country, more rock, nearly disco, doo wop, 80s pop, blues, more country, rock, another country album for good measure followed by more rock and recently funk.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 5 September 2002 12:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Roy Orbison before dying his hair: Roy Orbison after dying his hair

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 5 September 2002 16:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Mr. Noodles, did you forget Trans? Or what phase does that count as?

Young is a good case for this thread. He seems to have always wanted to be a chameleon, but without all the Bowie art-damage baggage.

wl, Thursday, 5 September 2002 16:22 (twenty-three years ago)

C'mon, no one has mentioned Ministry yet? For shame.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 5 September 2002 16:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Lydon, certainly?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 5 September 2002 16:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Trans = nearly disco.
I heart Trans, or at least the vocoder noodling parts of it.
I forgot to insert the 'returns to barbershop quartet' phase inbetween 'rock' phase 'another country album' phase.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 5 September 2002 17:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Admitted: Neil Young ownz this thread.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 5 September 2002 17:47 (twenty-three years ago)

...and your SOUL

Dave M. (rotten03), Thursday, 5 September 2002 18:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Obv. Miles Davis, I don't think I really have to list the phases.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 September 2002 02:43 (twenty-three years ago)

really drastic change from drabby hardcore to punk rock joy

lifetime - backrounds to lifetime - hello bastards

Brock K. (Brock K.), Friday, 6 September 2002 05:34 (twenty-three years ago)


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