TS: Pavement vs. Silver Jews

I say Jews.

Unfair to compare them imo. Not playing.

Adore them both for very different reasons.

It's just as fair as to compare them to the Smahsing Pumpkins, or My Bloody Valentine or whoever.

yeah these are both great bands but it's like Marianne Moore vs. Raymond Carver - sorta gotta sit this one out.

No vote

How could you consider silver jews a side project?

I don't. I'm joking. Nuance doesn't come out on the internet, I guess? I probably should have polled "TS Who uses the ilx on Sundays: Wet Blankets vs. Party Poopers." : /

It's because of the Pavement vs. Smashing Pumpkins revive. That thread. I don't fucking know. Fuck it.

imo your biggest mistake was not including an "I am a self-important fun-hater and refuse to choose between these two bands, which I am frankly insulted that you even saw fit to group together within a poll" option

(which is what I would have voted)

Pavement: 3-4 really fun albums that make me smile every time I remember they exist, + one of the truly iconic indie rock frontmen & lyricists

Silver Jews: 2-3 incredible albums that I could not live without (along with some others that I'm not as keen on), + probably the best t-shirt that I own (this one)

Alright, I flipped a coin. Pavement. Happy?

I have the green one with the great elaborate cartoon on it. People always ask me what "Silver Jews" means--talk about "old sense of the word" and I live in New York!

Sorry I couldn't tell you were joking, I'm an asshole I guess

This thread has bad juju

what would be interesting is a silver jews/smog/bonnie prince drag city song writers poll or some shit. tho maybe its been done.

I've interviewed both David B and Stephen M. I went to Berman's house and had a good time, thought he was OK, and I also enjoyed talking to Malkmus. I feel like the Jews' last couple records were pretty good--Berman has a way with lyrics and all--but the earlier Jews stuff isn't so hot. For all the good the music does for Berman's (often excellent) words, he might as well have done spoken-word records. So, I vote for Pavement, who were far more musical.

Silver Jews.

poll is useless without the input of sunny successor and pleasant plains

I guess this is why I like the synthesis of both bands on American Water (and also Starlite Walker although it's much more uneven). Malkmus' playing is at its best, combined with Berman's best songs. Musical stuff, combined with amazing lyrics

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love the JOOS but it's pavement, any day

'american water' is the best album by either of these two, but i'd still take pavement overall

tho i love the Silver Jews, this one has to be for Pavement.

voting jews to stem the tide of pavementality

^^^voted for nader

hey, I resent that comparison — it's not like this is Pavement vs. Silver Jews vs. Smashing Pumpkins!

haha sorry -- you are totally allowed to vote joos, but only if you believe it, not just because pavement may likely win

nah I truly believe it — was thinking about it and realized that I have purchased three records by each band; but I also bought Berman's book, which I think gives him the edge.

also one time when I was wearing my Silver Jews shirt a dude asked me "hey does your shirt say SUPERJAIL???" and I went "wha?/no" — then googled 'superjail' when I got home and found out it was an awesome cartoon! another point in the joos' favor!

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Rewatching Superjail on HBOmax