"What's wrong with being sappy?" - Nigel Tufnel

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(A.K.A. the "Let's Talk About Bread, Dammit!" Thread)

Sappy songs typically do not hold a high place in the average popular music fan's estimation. Why is this? Couldn't it be argued that songs that wear their heart on their musical sleeve are still nonetheless capturing a very valid facet of human experience? Is their derision more telling of the people who deride them?

Are there sappy songs out there whose lyrics you like, appreciate, or would unabashedly say have some resonation in your life? Is there "good sappy" and "bad sappy"? If so, where is the line drawn?

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 7 September 2002 09:42 (twenty-three years ago)

e.g. Bread's "It Don't Matter to Me"

Equally plausible as meditation on unselfish self-sacrifice or of ugly, bullheaded martyrdom, both of which surely most of us have experienced to some degree in the relationships of our life--by extension, equally plausible as meditation on how we wish we could be vs. who we are.

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 7 September 2002 09:53 (twenty-three years ago)

George Jones' "He Stopped Loving Her Today" may well be the apotheosis of sappy, and I love it. It's got everything - sad harmonica, sad slide guitar, sad monologue backed by sad wordless backing vocals, and a spine-tingly string gliss which makes its first appearance two-thirds of the way through the song. The lyrics are heartbreaking. For me, at least, this brand of "good sappy" succeeds because it shoves all of these sappy elements in my face, forthrightly and (correctly) without shame, and dares me not to be affected.

Much of the above can also be applied to Spiritualized's "Let it come down".

Captain Sleep, Saturday, 7 September 2002 10:27 (twenty-three years ago)

disliking 'sappy' music = missing out on the pleasures of:
the Chi-Lites
the Delfonics
the Spinners
the Stylistics
etc

Paul (scifisoul), Sunday, 8 September 2002 12:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Extreme - "More Than Words"

and

Kate Winslet - "What If"

Both gorgeous. I know, I know.

Charlie, Monday, 9 September 2002 03:21 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm not so sure your first sentence is true, joe.

Josh (Josh), Monday, 9 September 2002 04:59 (twenty-three years ago)

True, I guess that was awkwardly stated, because "the average popular music fan's estimation" is such a vague and limitless term. I meant to say something more like "average hardcore popular music fan's estimation (like folks here)". :)

I was envisioning more along the lines of the Jack Black character in High Fidelity ("There's no WAY your daughter likes that song. Go try the mall..."), versus, say, the average teenager gal swooning over Justin Timberlake...

Joe (Joe), Monday, 9 September 2002 21:50 (twenty-three years ago)


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