rjd2 should sign with rocafella!!

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they could get him a real keyboard and make him speed up all the old soul samples and then he could do two tracks on every new roc album!! also his name would be changed to 'dat nigga d2'

― simon trife (simon_tr), Monday, 9 September 2002 13:49 (twenty-three years ago)

http://patriot.net/~doleman/images/rjd2.jpg

― simon trife (simon_tr), Monday, 9 September 2002 14:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Then he could hop over to Def Jam because he said he wanted to do beats for Ludacris. Which would be great because not only would that rock but the next time Luda needs to do a skit featuring "random white people" he could find someone that actually DOES sound like a white person!

― Nate Patrin, Monday, 9 September 2002 14:10 (twenty-three years ago)

i heard that was actually their new slogan def jux - "we've got random white people"

― simon trife (simon_tr), Monday, 9 September 2002 14:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Well they better change it 'cause Matador will sue their shit.

― Nate Patrin, Monday, 9 September 2002 14:19 (twenty-three years ago)

nate its very important you tell me what you think of 'dat nigga d2', ive come up with similar name changes for the rest of the def jux crew that i can post on request

― simon trife (simon_tr), Monday, 9 September 2002 14:21 (twenty-three years ago)

i wonder how many people on ilm only own rap records put out by def jux and matador, i bet its higher than thirty five percent

― simon trife (simon_tr), Monday, 9 September 2002 14:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Simon, you're leaving the Stone's Throw loophole intact.

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 9 September 2002 14:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Not me! I own some Rawkus CDs too

Are your Can Ox names "Vast Ca$h" and "Cristal Megalarge"?

― Nate Patrin, Monday, 9 September 2002 14:28 (twenty-three years ago)

i dunno nitsuh theres a lot of new jacks around here who still were on the 'omg i cant believe i just said phat!' lick too recently to feel charizma, rip!!

― simon trife (simon_tr), Monday, 9 September 2002 14:31 (twenty-three years ago)

also i hear nate owns some rawkus cds

― simon trife (simon_tr), Monday, 9 September 2002 14:34 (twenty-three years ago)

nate thats shockingly close, i had kan'bal ox with va$t-ice and vorda xxl

also aesop rock would be dropped from the label switch and would be forced to be switched back to his government name, so his is whatever that would be

― simon trife (simon_tr), Monday, 9 September 2002 14:39 (twenty-three years ago)

THAT'S JUST A RUMOR

Oh wait. Shit. Never mind.

(Oh come on, one of them has Eminem on it! Yes it's that High and Mighty CD but still! Eminem!)

And come on: dropped? He could be A-ROCK.

― Nate Patrin, Monday, 9 September 2002 14:40 (twenty-three years ago)

and new on the roc a fella horizon, nah it cant be, whos that, oh my god, its, S TRIFE the SOUL SURVIVOR

― simon trife (simon_tr), Monday, 9 September 2002 14:41 (twenty-three years ago)

I own zero rap records.

― Kris (aqueduct), Monday, 9 September 2002 14:42 (twenty-three years ago)

haha nate if you were a hardcore rawkus head you would know shady was on the first shabaam sahdeeq 12" too!!

― simon trife (simon_tr), Monday, 9 September 2002 14:43 (twenty-three years ago)

alright im out, e-lpatrin you gotta hold down the thread for me aight??

― simon trife (simon_tr), Monday, 9 September 2002 14:45 (twenty-three years ago)

"switched back to his government name",

"rick martin"

― word, Monday, 9 September 2002 14:45 (twenty-three years ago)

was that before the slim shady lp and all that? i know nothing about about his pre-sslp career but there seems to be a fetishistic "early sun recordings" complex developing around it

― , Monday, 9 September 2002 14:50 (twenty-three years ago)

that complex is misbegotten; pre-Dre he was nowhere near as good

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 9 September 2002 15:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hey, maybe if RJD2 ditches Def Jux for Roc-A-Fella then Jux could plug the gap in their roster by signing this other producer who just got dropped from his label...

― Nate Patrin, Monday, 9 September 2002 15:02 (twenty-three years ago)

let the schadenfreude begin!

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 9 September 2002 15:35 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm not happy at all, Puffy's most likeable year ever gets him dropped! Fuck the system!

― Kris (aqueduct), Monday, 9 September 2002 17:10 (twenty-three years ago)

My other loopholes: 75 Ark, Rawkus, and Chocolate Industries. Simon can decide about Tommy Boy, Jive, and Atlantic.

There's not much hip-hop about RJD2 in the first place, though, is there? I mean, his beats sound pretty interesting up against MCs, but I don't know if that'd work for more than three or four tracks at a time; his instrumentalist stuff, on the other hand, has something to do with hip-hop but doesn't even seem to be entirely doing hip-hop.

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 9 September 2002 17:24 (twenty-three years ago)

I think that the stones throw mention is a bit unfair. Although there aren't a lot of african americans at their shows, the audience does seem to be mixed with latinos and asains (at least in SF). And i don't think that they make music for white people, they just attract a white crowd.

I think that anticon, eastern conference allstars, ryhmesayers, and def jux largely do make music with white people in mind. their shit, for the most part, is all angst-ridden or "progressive" (which seems to be another way of saying white). living in the bay area, i've never seen as large a congregation of white people as i did at the last atmosphere show. i thought that i was in new england or something.

― sobe, Monday, 9 September 2002 18:01 (twenty-three years ago)

i wonder how many people on ilm only own rap records put out by def jux and matador, i bet its higher than thirty five percent
Quelle surprise. Good to see that Ethong hasn't changed much. I kinda liked RJD2 becuase he opened a set with Tears for Fears. Most of the *tough b-boys* ran for the exit (probably with a M.O.P. record up their tight @sses).

― nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 9 September 2002 18:03 (twenty-three years ago)

I think that anticon, eastern conference allstars, ryhmesayers, and def jux largely do make music with white people in mind.

I don't think they make music with any colour people in mind.

― JoB (JoB), Monday, 9 September 2002 18:08 (twenty-three years ago)

I love how it's always the white guys who are all pinched up over who's not black enuf to play in their sandbox.

― Jody Beth Rosen, Monday, 9 September 2002 18:09 (twenty-three years ago)

White guy: "DUDE, like, Def Jukkies are all white kids making music for white kids with white influences! They SUK! Now the Neptunes, that's the real shit!"
Pharrell Williams: "I really like America. 'Horse With No Name' is a great song."
White guy: "Erm..."

― Nate Patrin, Monday, 9 September 2002 18:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Hem hem I think someone completely misunderstood the function of the Stone's Throw reference -- which is understandable, as it referred more to what Simon/Ethan might think of Stone's Throw than anything else.

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 9 September 2002 18:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually, I dunno, he might have some respect for Mad-Lib, but I doubt it.

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 9 September 2002 18:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Is this thread just for the sort of people that insist on trying their vinyl out on the instore turntables, one headphone can off, for every single thing they buy, or can anyone join?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 9 September 2002 18:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually, Dom, I think Ethan's bigger on the sort of person who buys big stacks of CDs at Best Buy.

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 9 September 2002 19:00 (twenty-three years ago)

what nitsuh you think it was a joke about feeling charizma (rip!!)? anyway ive been checking for madlib since the xzibit track he did on likwidation, along with mike ladd/infesticons lord quas was some next type shit to me summer 2000, i have love for stones throw, even pb wolf solo is ok sometimes

― simon trife (simon_tr), Monday, 9 September 2002 20:42 (twenty-three years ago)

anyway its always the corniest indie rock people who always come in my shit, trying to play the 'man its like, reverse racism!!' card when they just flat out dont like rap period, this is for anyone feeling hiphop, i mean i dig everything from up top the charts down to the dirtiest underground but when def jux motherfuckers start pulling cards i take note and bust back

― simon trife (simon_tr), Monday, 9 September 2002 20:47 (twenty-three years ago)

anyway its always the corniest indie rock people

Pitchfork roolz.

― Jody Beth Rosen, Monday, 9 September 2002 20:52 (twenty-three years ago)

I know what you mean, but the big problem with it is that no one can really claim to be the ultimate arbiter of "what is rap." I mean, the straw-man indie kid who only listens to Def Jux probably in the end likes a lot of parts of rap/hip-hop, but really doesn't like a lot of other parts of it: Jurassic 5 or Anti-Pop Consortium must, on some level, be giving them the elements they enjoy without too many of the elements they don't, and until someone can come up with a clear chart of which elements have to be there for it to be proper "rap," you can't really make too many judgments.

Cause beyond that the complaint really does come down to a sandbox thing. It says: "Here's our sandbox, and here's how we play in it, and we like it that way. Now here come all you kids who don't know anything about the sandbox or its history, and you want to play in it a totally different way, and you're irritating us and messing everything up." Which, don't get me wrong, is probably a legitimate complaint if you really want to make it.

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 9 September 2002 21:00 (twenty-three years ago)

But that doesn't make it not a sandbox complaint.

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 9 September 2002 21:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Most of my hip hop records are on Def Jam and Peanuts & Corn yo, but yes, yes, I have stuff on Rawkus and Def Jux too. Nothing on Matador, though, apart from yr typical indierawk. If that wasn't enough ammo for you, ethan, the thing that impressed me most so far about the RJD2 record was the blatant Steve Reich/Pat Metheny sample. G'wan, wail.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 9 September 2002 21:18 (twenty-three years ago)

"I know what you mean, but the big problem with it is that no one can really claim to be the ultimate arbiter of "what is rap.""

What about Dungeon Family?

Ha just kidding. Actually I talked about this with my brother recently -- he's been listening to hip-hop for something like 15 years plus and one thing he said he noticed is that ten years ago it wasn't that unusual for someone to be feeling say NWA, A Tribe Called Quest, Public Enemy and Schooly D all at the same time. It was just a matter of it all being considered 'hip-hop' and the only real rifts were between individual MCs, crews or localities -- not scenes and subgenres. Then it became gangsta vs. conscious and East vs. West and eventually what I guess we have now in chart rap vs. underground. One of the things that's been bothering me isn't the presence of materialism in rap (it was there in 197fucking9 -- just listen to Big Bank Hank's verse on "Rapper's Delight" ferchrissakes) but the fact that it's almost entirely what constitutes mainstream rap as far as subject matter and personality nowadays. There seems to be either less room or less demand for stuff outside that particular area; if Three Feet High and Rising came out today people would probably call it "soft" or "backpacker rap" or some other bullshit, and they wouldn't be around ten years from now to record with whoever 2012's answer to Redman is.

So yeah, RJD2 SHOULD produce some Roc-A-Fella artists. And I wanna see Vast Aire guest on a Ghostface track (or Ghostface on a Can Ox record!) and Slug get "Passin' Me By" type success. I'm kind of a dork that way.

― Nate Patrin, Monday, 9 September 2002 21:19 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm with you, Nate! Especially with regard to hearing mainstream MCs with "undie" producers. And I think it'll happen, up to a point. But then you get to this spot where the industries themselves are just really different, and I don't know how easy that'll be to get past: I think the biggest majors could bring them together, but I wonder how many undie guys would want to start signing contracts with hip-hop labels, which means leaping into a whole new sort of game that has nothing to do with music.

But I was just listening to that track with Prefuse 73 and Mos Def and that struck me as a tiny bit of a tug (if only because it means you can now get from Prefuse to Busta Rhymes in only one step).

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 9 September 2002 21:36 (twenty-three years ago)

"def jam and peanuts and corn yo,"

heh, good one

― bob zemko (bob), Monday, 9 September 2002 22:31 (twenty-three years ago)

anti-underground posturing is becoming as boring as anti-mainstream posturing. the only way that most "undie" participants will ever break through is if linkin park does another remix album.

― sobe, Monday, 9 September 2002 23:09 (twenty-three years ago)

i have a couple rap records put out by K

― ron (ron), Monday, 9 September 2002 23:34 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah dont fuck around jody beth, you know its always the weirdfaced angry girls who think theyre bustin up into the 'boys club of rock crit' and bring wack theories about how 'ironic' it it white dudes want to listen to hiphop, its all the same, ive seen that shit on your blog about 'yes, hating indie kids is the same as hating black people, its true' oh i didnt know your great-grandpa got his neck snapped on a tree limb for listening to slint

― simon trife (simon_tr), Tuesday, 10 September 2002 01:07 (twenty-three years ago)

"I love how it's always the white guys who are all pinched up over who's not black enuf to play in their sandbox." How is that the same as "It's ironic that white people want to listen to hip-hop?" Listen: I don't give a fuck what you listen to. YOU are the one who's all HAHAHA look at those stupid RJD2-listening, Epitonic-reading crackers who are too indienancypants to even be proper WIGGERS. Does this really keep you up nights? Should I throw out all my jazz and blues records that might have a white or Latino producer or session player on them or be influenced by anything other than a poor-black American or African tradition? Is George Gershwin not the real hardcore shit because he's too bedroom-classical? And if that's the case, SO WHAT? If rock 'n' roll were as rigidly defined as you're making hip-hop out to be, we'd all still be trying to imitate Elvis and Carl Perkins -- which is not a bad thing, but it could get pretty goddamn monotonous after nearly 50 years.

Oh, and you're misquoting me: I said "hating indie," not "hating indie kids." YOU hate indie kids, not me.

― Jody Beth Rosen, Tuesday, 10 September 2002 01:38 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah dont fuck around jody beth, you know its always the weirdfaced angry girls who think theyre bustin up into the 'boys club of rock crit'

And how does me being a girl enter into this AT ALL? When was anybody's gender ever mentioned?

― Jody Beth Rosen, Tuesday, 10 September 2002 01:42 (twenty-three years ago)

guys

OK fine. But I meant this in a gender-neutral sense.

― Jody Beth Rosen, Tuesday, 10 September 2002 01:45 (twenty-three years ago)

what about rockapella?

― mandee, Tuesday, 10 September 2002 02:32 (twenty-three years ago)

There are tons of punks in Mexico.

― Kris (aqueduct), Tuesday, 10 September 2002 03:04 (twenty-three years ago)

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did r2j2 do a 50c remix?
which song?

― robin (robin), Thursday, 20 February 2003 12:52 (twenty-two years ago)

five months pass...

fuck that slim shady could be in the roc and the cash money anybody would want him to be on there team but instead he diss everybody cause he could do that so he don't need nobody

― ebony jackson, Tuesday, 5 August 2003 13:57 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

"...word has it that Jay has tapped one more producer for The Black Album. But we can't say who it is yet because the ink still isn't dry, and the track may not make the final cut. Hint, this producer is an underground up and comer, and based on what he has done so far it's ironic he would be working with Jay-Z at this point. Place your bets..."
-- hiphopesite.com, News on the DL, sept. 26

*crosses fingers*

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Monday, 29 September 2003 02:24 (twenty-two years ago)

you can uncross your fingers, it's ninth wonder from little brother.

rjd2 would've been a much better pick.

― s>c>, Monday, 29 September 2003 02:53 (twenty-two years ago)

THE ROC IS THE HOTTEST OF THE HOT OF ALL MUSIC THEY MAKE THAT FEELA MUSIC U NO I JUS WONT 2 SAY ROC ARMY DAME BIGG jay bleek sp n all keep it up n roc on 4life im a roc head roc a fella fan #1 holla bac

― JORGE DELGADO, Saturday, 11 October 2003 05:30 (twenty-two years ago)

where's the fire, chief?

― oops (Oops), Saturday, 11 October 2003 08:54 (twenty-two years ago)

three months pass...

RJD2 will never ever sign on to fucking rockafella. dat nigga d2 is not black. he can get some real keyboards? yeah, cause the ones he is using now arent real at all...they're fake. He will never be on rockafella. rockafella is doing good but its all about defninitive jux. it is certainly better than rockafella and garbage rawkus all put together. nelly and ja rule are garbage.

― elpisagangster, Friday, 30 January 2004 08:13 (twenty-one years ago)

interesting.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 30 January 2004 08:15 (twenty-one years ago)

switched back to his government name

his name is Ian Bavitz. Really.

― djdee2005, Friday, 30 January 2004 08:19 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...

Hi
my name is D'Nyra Tull and i am from Vineland Nj i now live in Burlington Nj. i love to sing and some times rap i am very interreatsed in your record company. I know one of your Celebretes in that record company really good his name is stephen Goldberg he is a good couise of one of my friend her name is (to secertive) we all pepp P.G.C to da fullest but that's all i had to say

― D'Nyra Sylvia Gail Saunders-Tull, Tuesday, 24 February 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Dear D'Nyra Sylvia Gail Saunders-Tull,

I hope your mother contacts bowel cancer.

Love, Sophie B Hawkins.

― Sophie B Hawkins (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

what should their mother do once she's contacted the bowel cancer? sign it up for a mailing list?

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...

is there any way i can get a record deal from rocafella?!?

p.s. REPLY PLEASE!!!!!!!!

― Brittany N. Muhummad, Saturday, 13 March 2004 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Your name isn't RJD2, so no.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 March 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Can I be with Rocafella

― Jordan Jerome Ford, Friday, 19 March 2004 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

'be with' how?

― Sym (shmuel), Saturday, 20 March 2004 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...

When will u ever seek talent in N,C. I'm a female rapper, rappen wit lady gunner

― julieona, Tuesday, 6 April 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

They keep telling you! You have to sound like RJD2. (The person on the posh Spice thread told me to donate my own advice so that's what I'm doing)

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

rockapella should sign with rocafella

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 20 June 2004 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)

rockapella should sign with rocafella

this would certainly spell the end of all existence.

A nuclear holocaust, soundtracked to a remix of the "Where In The World Is Carmen Sandiego" theme.

― Serya (Z_Ayres), Sunday, 20 June 2004 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

man I love Ethan but he can be so full of shit sometimes

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 20 June 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Surely he was kidding up top there, John

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 20 June 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

nine months pass...

Resurrecting the thread since RJD2 did an official remix for Tweet.

Tweet ft. Missy Elliott - Turn Da Lights Off (RJD2 remix)

― Guy Incognito (Guy Incognito), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 23:38 (twenty years ago)

(was on the gmail/usendit thread too)(it's just alright i think, a little too typically 'widescreen' in that pile-on-the-samples-til-bursting indie-hop tradition, but i haven't heard it in the car yet)(things often improve in the car)

― jermaine (jnoble), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 05:34 (twenty years ago)

i like it.

― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 05:49 (twenty years ago)

five months pass...

That RJD2 song off that one advert is quite good, innit? "Ghostwriter" or something. That's nice.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 18 September 2005 23:10 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

does sobe still post?

― and what, Sunday, 15 July 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

'dat nigga d2'

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 15 July 2007 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

i guess this didnt really work out

― and what, Friday, 17 August 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

rjd2 should sign with sub pop

― deej, Friday, 17 August 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

rjd2 needs to stfu

― and what, Friday, 17 August 2007 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

funny how every middleground boom-bap producer now is either making gnarls barkley garbage or keyboard beats for young buck

― and what, Friday, 17 August 2007 14:31 (eighteen years ago)

req: one listenable track rjd2 ever produced. i gravely doubt this exists.

― luriqua, Friday, 17 August 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

also aesop rock would be dropped from the label switch and would be forced to be switched back to his government name, so his is whatever that would be
loool

― luriqua, Friday, 17 August 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

req: one listenable track rjd2 ever produced. i gravely doubt this exists.

-- luriqua, Friday, August 17, 2007 4:50 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Snzbo2j3pJI

― and what, Friday, 17 August 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

word ryt re charizma :C
time warner cable milwaukee had an unlikely stash of amazing on demand charizma shot including bt not limited to a live set of red light/green light where they were dancing and stopping like elementary school exercise. rip

― luriqua, Friday, 17 August 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

wtf that's the gayest shit i've written in a while. i'll keep it t' the blog

good rjd2.

― luriqua, Friday, 17 August 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

― and what, Friday, 17 August 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

latest RJD2 album is major dud

― blueski, Friday, 17 August 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Snzbo2j3pJI

-- and what, Friday, August 17, 2007 11:58 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

lol i used to work w diverse's fiance

― deej, Friday, 17 August 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

fiancee

― deej, Friday, 17 August 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

i have memory of horror being so wack bt http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZqCMaM3H2tk is pretty dope

― luriqua, Friday, 17 August 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)

^^^ blog it :C

― luriqua, Friday, 17 August 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

i'll stop ruination of thread now sry

― luriqua, Friday, 17 August 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

More like stop the ruination of the English language, am I right?

bt? you mean bluetooth? what the hell is that an abbreviation for... oh, you mean "but."

― mh, Friday, 17 August 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

i'm just confused about what this face means

― deej, Friday, 17 August 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

in case anybody needs to remember why anybody ever gave a fuck about rjd2 his breezeblock is in like my top 5 dj mixes of all time

― and what, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.radioblogclub.com/open/147970/rjd2/Rjd2_-_Radio_1_Breezeblock_Mix_08-06-2004

― and what, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

rj's back 2 basics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps82DjhE_hs

― hoos-kingofthedrugs (deej), Sunday, 15 November 2009 22:56 (fifteen years ago)

this thread gets the gas face

― freek-a-leekanomics (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 November 2009 00:36 (fifteen years ago)

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