THE BIG 4 poll

slayer

Slayer via science:

Best album: Slayer - Reign In Blood
Best song: Slayer - "Angel Of Death"
Best logo: Anthrax
Best guitarist: Dave Mustaine (Megadeth)
Best bassist: Cliff Burton & Robert Trujillo (tie) (Metallica)
Best drummer: Dave Lombardo (Slayer)
Best singer: Joey Belladonna (Anthrax)
Best logo: Anthrax
Best album cover: Metallica - Master Of Puppets
Best music video: Metallica - "One" & Slayer's "Seasons In The Abyss" (tie)

The fact that you include Trujillo in your bassist tally indicates you are including contemporary incarnations of these groups as well as their current output, which pretty much cinches it for Slayer. I'd be more curious what the results would be if you limited it to their then-contemporary Big 4 heyday.

i wish i knew which the troll vote is? is it metallica? i think i'm going to vote for metallica

i voted for metallica

can't name a single song by any of the other three

can't name a single song by any of the other three

SB

markers, what the fuck, dude

also, Josh, hmmm, i guess i threw Trujillo in there but i left the other parts to mean classic era. I kind of think Anthrax's Stomp 442 is the best album cover, but not exactly representative of thrash at all

Honestly, I saw all these bands play Yankee last night and just wanted to talk about how when Metallica plays, Robert Trujillo is like so evidently the most talented person on that stage

Also, there literally is no troll vote in this, J0rdan

tbf to markers i couldn't name a band by the other three either, but i also couldn't name a song by metallica

what the fuck planet do you live on where you can't name a song by metallica

I'm happy to see Whiney rightly rank Mustaine as the best guitarist here though Hanneman's a fucking monster (everybody's heard his demo tape where he basically writes "Reign in Blood"?) & probably the more "important" guitarist - people understate Slayer's impact on black metal I think, Slayer was thinking harder & better about atmosphere than any of their contemporaries except Celtic Frost. Megadeth live in their prime were better than any of these except maybe Anthrax who've been getting called underrated for so long now that it's a tired take but fuck it, it's still true. (I read a great piece on Anthrax this week by a certain dude, nice work dude.) I'm not a Cliff purist about Metallica, it's not like they sucked after Cliff but if you watch old footage that dude brought a lot to the stage - once Cliff was gone Metallica wasn't who they were before whereas Megadeth was then in take-no-prisoners mode.

But I don't know man Slayer is fucking hard to fuck with but musically Megadeth is kinda...better? until they start sucking that is

good poll

i was kidding, kind of -- i can name "master of puppets"

Robert Trujillo is like so evidently the most talented person on that stage

^this isn't true but the other guys who're on his level are so unlikeable that they seem less talented next to him

J0rdan, how can you even call yourself a goon when u haven't heard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBA-xi8WuCU

what the fuck planet do you live on where you can't name a song by metallica

― James Ferraro Boyz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:00 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

what the fuck planet do you live on where listening to metal is a formative experience for all people under 25

markers, what the fuck, dude

― James Ferraro Boyz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:56 PM

yo i'm not trolling, i sincerely can't name a single song by any of the other three. i don't know why, but i've never even been that interested in investigating any of the other three bands' catalogues either

I think rock radio and cultural behemoth Metallica transcends "listening to metal."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lSeZR4aDNo

yeah but not at all surprising from j0rdan "i know 3 madonna songs" sargent

Like maybe j0rdan could have played that version of Metallica Rock Band that sold like two million copies. Or heard, somewhere, maybe, possibly, somehow the most famous guitar riff in the last 39 years?!?!

Xpost, yeah so side with me on this ffs

I wore my Public Enemy shirt to the Big 4 show in solidarity of the Anthrax collabo, the Slayer samples on Nation Of Millions, and the fact that the PE logo's placement on Black Planet was inspired by Megadeth's Vic Rattlehead.

No Metallica connection tho

dude i started a friendly and well intentioned thread like 8 months ago entirely dedicated to exposing j0rdan to music made before 1997, so for me personally there's no point in bullying him about that kind of thing

Or heard, somewhere, maybe, possibly, somehow the most famous guitar riff in the last 39 years?!?!

― James Ferraro Boyz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:05 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

i know this riff

a friendly and well intentioned thread like 8 months ago

that thread is like essentially the shittiest turntable.fm for people to force their shitty taste on poor J0rdan

guys c'mon this is actual good shit worth talking about

the most famous guitar riff in the last 39 years?!?!

Now I'm wondering what riff you're talking about. (And hoping it's not "Enter Sandman".)

that thread is like essentially the shittiest turntable.fm for people to force their shitty taste on poor J0rdan

Have been some good albums in that thread imo.

like as to whether J0rdan has or has not heard anything or how bad some other thread nobody cared about because it had no Slayer I gotta say... well fuck it I was looking for nobodygivesashit.jpg (maybe it was who gives a shit & that's my problem) but this pic came up in the GIS and it rules so whatever

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljeik17GED1qbfzrho1_500.jpg

Best album: rust in peace
Best song: fade to black
Best logo: metallica
Best guitarist: mustaine
Best bassist: cliff
Best drummer: lombardo
Best singer: araya
Best album cover: lightning
Best music video: holy wars

hey i'm not wild about where that thread went but it's not like screaming YOU MUST KNOW METALLICA at j0rdan is any more useful than screaming YOU MUST KNOW COLTRANE

dudes I'm just saying a big 4 poll is a cool thing so can we not have recycled rolling beef spillover on it thanks guys

i agree but tbh j0rdan came in here to meta troll so blame him

I'm assigning blame where it always belongs...on Metallica's deeply un-brolike treatment of Dave Mustaine

Im kinda bummed I couldnt go to this show

xp If you don't know at least 2 bands here, why would you bother voting

I voted for Obama because I've never heard of the other guy.

sorry, aero

it's ok I'm being an obnoxious blohard as usual so I don't really have much of a perch to yell from

could everybody go listen to that hanneman home demo now plz & then seek out the whole tape which is floating around & is unspeakably deep, that dude is just a concentrated supernova of riff creativity

If it was just two albums (Lightning and Puppets) I'd totally pick Metallica but as an overall band it's probably Slayer. I always appreciated Anthrax and Megadeth in some way but neither of them really did as much for me as I felt they should have.

can't name a single song by any of the other three

― markers, Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:51 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

http://i.imgur.com/YbTGO.gif

XD

i think i will vote for...anthrax?

please note that i am choosing to ignore anything after state of euphoria, but that in kind i am also ignoring everything after master of puppets/so far so good/seasons in the abyss so everybody is getting some preferential treatment here

Persistence of Time is like their best album wtf

maybe i haven't heard the right stuff from the others, but this is slayer by a mile for me

if slayer doesn't win this detonate ilm

Thanks in advance for the link to the Hanneman thing, aerosmith.

having a hard time finding it! I know it's out there, I think most of it is on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lSeZR4aDNo

that's the one I posted upthread, Josh.

Oh, sorry. Been a long thread!

Just gonna mention this real quick because Joseph Gordon-Levitt's character is supposedly modeled on Cliff Burton and there's a ton of Metallica on the soundtrack, so some may be lured into watching Hesher, but...don't. It's a piece. Of. Shit. Tried to get through it this afternoon, bailed right after JGL started doing bonghits with the little-kid character's grandmother.

was thinking about this last night, and I think one of the reasons that I find myself listening to megadeth more now is that dave mustaine seems the most like a regular guy, as a frontman, narrator, storyteller. you'd think that anthrax would totally clean up on the "regular" guy front, what with the skateboards and shorts and all, but I think joey belladonna's delivery is definitely a bit pompous and over the top. not to criticize joey b.

"let's all sit around the campfire and listen to uncle dave spin us a yarn about nuclear armaggeddon!" "breakfast with dave was nice, but he sure gets grumpy about politics..." "nice impression of a surly teenager, dave!"

Thanks aerosmith- I'll do some digging.

Mustaine is a pretty intersting guy. Shockingly, he was somewhat self-deprecating in his book. I always had the impression of him as totally pompous. I liked the book.

did he use a lot of ellipses in the book?

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/dave_mustaine_it_looks_like_were_sprinting_down_the_path_to_socialism.html

waited on dave mustaine at a coffeeshop once, he was really mellow.

and mustaine is a birther
http://maura.tumblr.com/post/4465410200/woke-up-to-a-tweet-where-dave-mustaine-was-cheering-on

and

It seems like after that, no one seemed to hold the office of the President in such high regard.
Mustaine: Not anymore. I don’t think so because of the things that have taken place and the mistrust. Plus when you look at “Peace Sells… But Who’s Buying,” what the whole concept behind that whole album is pretty much about — us as a people and the youth of America as an individual … I don’t want to say “faction” that’s the wrong word, but an entity, on its own. The youth of America being justified, finally, coming of age, and being able to look at things and being able to say ‘You know what? I don’t want this Manchurian Candidate as our President.” Back then, it’s the same thing now. I look at the way Obama has been selling our country off and all the ways things are happening and the way that our economy is plummeting. Why won’t we tap Alaska? And why did we take so long to act on the Gulf? Why did we take so long to act in Libya? Why?! Where’s his birth certificate? You know what, that birth certificate he showed everybody … I remember buying one of those to go buy booze. Hello Obama. C’mon dude, they used to sell those in the back of Creem magazine for $3.

Read more: Dave Mustaine at 'Peace' in his career | Goldmine Magazine http://www.goldminemag.com/features/dave-mustaine-at-peace-in-his-career-25-years-later#ixzz1YEyASm5M

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TaC_00PLPUI/AAAAAAAAAoM/4UTh4cj0GTU/mustainetrump.jpg

yeah, yeah. cranky old uncle dave...

Well, if there was anyone I'd expect to buy into a host of conspiracy theories, it's Mustaine. I mean, come on.

Needs to be in this thread, if only because it's the only song by any of these bozos that I remotely care about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiHdr4rWG98&ob=av2e

Ranking their rap collabos

Anthrax & P.E. > Slayer & Ice-T >>>>>>>>> Anthrax & UTFO > Metallica & Ja Rule

qft

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0JKWeYcwNY

Ice-T doing Exploited's "UK 82" as "LA 92" = <3

long conversation about the judgment night soundtrack on the train ride home or gtfo

over the years since its release it's been a source of constant surprise to me to learn what a profound effect it had on cats who were young-ish when it came out - it's such a touchstone in some ways

love Slayer & Reign in Blood arguably perfected the form, but in terms of innovation AND quality control, you just can't get past Lightning & Puppets imo

xpost

o/

Wife says Megadeth btw. altho she also said she didn't know what Slayer looked like.

Slayer.
Easily.

She should be able to guess what Slayer looks like.

This just has to be Metallica.

you mean for the WS question, right?

http://loudwire.com/files/2011/09/bigfourCover.jpg

Poor Kirk is a lonely guy just thinking 'bout things.

lol otm

Using food science, via Kuma's Corner:

Metallica - Buffalo Sauce, Bacon, Bleu Cheese Dressing
Slayer - Pile of fries topped with a 10 oz. Burger, Chili, Cherry Peppers, Andouille, Onions, Jack Cheese, and Anger
Megadeth - Chorizo and Red Potato Hash, Pico de Gallo, Cayenne Avocado Cream, Tortilla Strips

Anthrax doesn't have a burger there yet.

So, Slayer wins.

Kuma's should have a burger called The Heartburn.

Do metal guys ever get tired of making grrr metal faces? I guess not.

They are stuck that way.

why on Earth would you be a metal guy if you were the type of person who got tired of making grrr metal faces

Do indie guys ever get tired of making woe-is-me indie faces? I guess not.

Indie guys are all smiles now that the money's just rolling in.

the megadeth is my jam at kuma's

Sad indie dude look like that all the time, though. I doubt Hetfield walks around with a perma-grimace.

http://pineappleope.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/grimace.jpg

Grimace?

http://www.thegauntlet.com/photos/hetfield072508.jpg

I prefer
http://www.portlandmercury.com/images/blogimages/2008/09/16/r_1221585251_hetfield.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2GqW5F_C5M&feature=player_embedded%29http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2GqW5F_C5M&feature=player_embedded

ha yeah I saw that and thought about posting it

did I yet mention on this thread that I'm in a SLAYER!!! group on Facebook and I've been posting stuff from here on the wall there and vice versa?

correct results

though....THOUGH....Megadeth had a pretty good run in the late '00s, where they were probably at their second win. Endgame is better than some of their 80s output.

I still don't like the latest Anthrax album, though really enjoyed Worship Music.

I'm re-listening to Persistence of Time now for the first time in probably 15 years. They really weren't that good a band. Fun live, 30 years ago anyway, but as songs, these songs feel like a bunch of parts scotch-taped together and constantly falling apart.