Lou Reed & Metallica - Lulu Poll

i'm probably not going to sit on this album for very long in all honesty, so best jump in with a vote while it's all still fresh in my mind. heart says "dragon" or "little dog".

weird, right now "little dog" is honestly the only one i know i wouldn't vote for

I'm still listening to the ILX pre-covers! Only afterwards will I listen to the real album....

Oh god yeah!

"I AM THE DOG!! I AM THE DOG!!"

and that loop, can't lose it!

Junior Dad

why do i cheat cheat cheat cheat cheat on me??

i wish this poll didn't close before the release date, i want to listen to it on my stereo

yeah srsly wtf w/ this poll only being open for a week, markers

markers is going to do a weekly poll of this record, right?

^^this guy gets it

^^

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Junior Dad the obvious choice at this point

out tomorrow!

It's got some catching up to do!

haven't listened to this album yet. that doesn't disqualify me from voting here does it?

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voted the view, but if anything this poll will hopefully persuade people to at least skip to the end before giving up on the whole thing

just noticed the legend for review ratings in the latest game informer ;)

yeah, imho, Disc 2 >>>>> Disc 1, although the last couple tracks on Disc 1 are pretty good too

i voted on this early, and i still think "junior dad" is amazing, but i think i'd vote "pumping blood" or "frustration" now

yeah i might switch to mistress dread now, but junior dad

just noticed the legend for review ratings in the latest game informer ;)

― goole, Tuesday, November 8, 2011 10:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i lobbied for it to be for 11/10 but got overruled!

lol

didn't actually notice it myself the first time, tipped by a comment here:

http://youtu.be/rheezx7gzwA

danggg -- sales figures are IN

MEGADETH – TH1RT3EN
Last week: 41,977 (debut)

REED*LOU & METALLICA – LULU
Last week: 13,320 (debut)

rip

Lou's never been about sales though. Excited to hear all 13,320 Lulu inspired bands in the upcoming months.

but . . . metallica!!

metalliwho?

Can't put a butterfly in a jar, haters

tbh in the current climate i'm kind of amazed that an album this fucked up (a double CD for that matter) sold that much!

wikipedia:

Death Magnetic debuted at number one on the Billboard 200, selling 490,000 copies in just three days of availability.

i guess i just figured that more metallica fans would run out and buy it just because their band was involved, but tbh i haven't even bought a copy so who the hell knows

Wonder how many of those 13,320 are deluxe.

(Also wonder how many hundreds of thousands of copies they pressed.)

if you believe wikipedia, st. anger is double platinum, which is heartening

(double platinum in the us)

Pretty sure the ILX pre-covers album moved more copies than Lulu.

haha kinda doubt that

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/664326_10151313908245953_1994532525_o.jpg

the last thing we can believe in- LULU

i will donate $5 million to a charity of mitt romney's choice if he sings "junior dad" during his concession speech.

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/tasteofcountry.com/files/2012/08/Mitt-Romney1.jpg

EVERYBODY SING!

Would you pull me up
Would you drop the mental bullet
Would you pull me by the arm up
Would you still kiss my lips
Hiccup, the dream is over
Get the coffee, turn the lights on
Say hello to junior dad
The greatest disappointment
Age withered him and changed him
Into junior dad
Psychic savagery

it really is perfect for mitt. how did lou know that it would be so perfect?

sequel

we need one

LULU2

feat U2

Lulu II: Kirk Hammett and the Chamber of Secrets

pumping blood should have gotten votes

you're just a small town girl who's gonna give lulu a whirl

there is no time for guilt
or second guessing

and here's that VU > LULU set from 2012 chris mentioned: https://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/641027816435089408/lou-reed-heineken-music-hall-amsterdam
it's good!

Yes! It is very good, the other funny thing on it is a regular human being drummer (a really good one at that) attempting to play Lars's parts on Mistress Dread

haha, yeah — it's pretty funny, Lou's drummer really has to handle a lot of different modes, from moe tucker's ultra-minimal "waiting for the man" thing to "mistress dread" ...

FYI Lulu headz — Metallica is selling the deluxe version for a song over here: https://www.metallica.com/store/clearance/?start=0&sz=12

Great revive

If only you could stream this! (I loaned this record to someone ages ago and never got it back.)

Well, surely Junior Dad is up on YouTube

it's on streaming now!

It is? I just checked Apple Music and didn’t see it

ah it's on Spotify they probably shelled out big bucks for the exclusive haha

Aha

I just stumbled on this

https://heinaliandmattfinney.bandcamp.com/track/junior-dad

Listened to the actual “Junior Dad” for the first time in a while and it reminded me (somewhat) of this underheralded LP, a Jane’s Addiction side project

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=961Cv9KsJUE

FYI Lulu headz — Metallica is selling the deluxe version for a song over here: https://www.metallica.com/store/clearance/?start=0&sz=12

― tylerw, Thursday, January 28, 2021 6:56 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Unfortunately, $51 shipping to the UK

Weird that Lulu isn't on Apple Music now becuz it certainly was at one point, fortunately I have it on at least two other formats, phew.

Forever sad that Lou & Metallica never did a real live show of this, only this German tv show deal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF2os5l2Nog

Unless tyler knows of an actual show and he's holding out on us!

i think that is it in terms of live Lulu w/ Metallica ... should we be hoping for a lavish 10th anniversary boxed set this year. (I jest, but I do think that there are probably early recordings of these songs w/o metallica ... he was playing some of them live in the years prior.)

I believe they did a spot on 'Later', certainly they did a version of "White Light White Heat"

I'm not a big fan of either Metallica or Lou Reed, but I am listening to this for the first time in a couple of years and man do I love this album.

I still remember my first listen of this when it was released or leaked. I was listening totally ready to make fun of it (and remember laughing at James's singing of "home town girl" and Lou's "C'mon James!"). I think it was sometime during "Mistress Dread" that I started thinking that this isn't bad actually. By the second half of the album I was totally into it.

I'm skipping Iced Honey though, that song just doesn't work

I think it was sometime during "Mistress Dread" that I started thinking that this isn't bad actually. By the second half of the album I was totally into it.

― silverfish, Friday, January 29, 2021 12:40 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

my first listen was the same experience

i have sung "iced honey" at karaoke it's great

I could see it being fun at karaoke

The biggest mistake they made in marketing this was not elucidating the narrative framework and characters. Not that it would have made the record a big seller, but it would have been a defence against people saying "this is just Lou's sex fantasy", etc. etc.

As it is, they threw out this long, wordy album and let the world make sense of it as best it could (not very generously).

I played it and liked it.

But if I try to recall any of it, it's only the ilx versions I recall.

In the end, it was an ordinary heart

I'm just a woman who likes men
But this is something else
I feel such stirrings

Supreme violation

psychic savagery

i want lovers like the rain
so many of them, so much the same

I would cut my legs and tits off
When I think of Boris Karloff and Kinski
In the dark of the moon
It made me dream of Nosferatu
Trapped on the isle of Doctor Moreau
Oh wouldn't it be lovely

This has been the quickest ten years ever.

"pumping blood" would be a really good wrestler entrance theme

Finally spiritually ready to listen to Lulu

this is the greatest journey a man can make

^^^^^^^

I love that Lou Reed loved it. It's wild that the tracks on the second half of the record have Spotify plays between like 160k - 260k, those are indie numbers.

It's easy to see why fans on both sides hated or wrote it off. It's not cool, it's loose in the areas where Metallica is usually tight, it feels tight where Lou usually has a looseness, it's lyrical and sexual in ways that are antithetical to how people traditionally listen to metal (maybe there are some goth or doom exceptions to this? Idk). I'm honestly surprised it hasn't had its critical re-evaluation yet, we've even passed the 10th anniversary (!).

Junior Dad flies by, shortest 20 min song ever.

Also the best 20 min song

I remain convinced that this will one day be as revered as, say, Trout Mask Replica: the “difficult” album that slowly worms its way into the canon.

I would cut my legs and tits off when that happens

the audience for an old man warbling about pussy over disconnected riffing is always going to be a niche one

Jokermen podcast finally did their Lulu reclamation episode, after doing every other Lou Reed & John Cale record.

https://podcastaddict.com/jokermen/episode/171949829

There's a Patreon ep with Robert Trujillo...would have been amazing to get Lars, but that's pretty cool.

A little off topic, but Laurie Anderson plays Junior Dad live at most of her concerts. If anyone is on the fence of seeing her live, its worth it just for that.

psychic savagery

just heard she did Junior Dad at Big Ears

for the second time!

She played it again in LA last night, but cut off the recording before "get the coffee / turn the lights on / say hello to Junior Dad," which for me was always the climax. Still deeply moving, though... and I love that she recognizes the power of this in-some-ways absurd song from this in-many-ways absurd project.

!

she also projected some of her own lyrics from "World Without End" in the background:

When my father died we put him in the ground
When my father died it was like a whole library burned down

Yeah that was genuinely moving, having a Lou presence in the set.