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great wobbly moggleee, it's odd n stuff! thick, liquid, clangy and spare. of course all tracks called something like "ched" and "tagtraumer" i like, i like!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 02:58 (twenty-two years ago)

search "ched [bar]" by "shorf" -- great great track. sort of like a jam i suppose. you can hear what sound like solos being taken by different "instruments", interrupting each other and egging each other on.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 03:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Nope, but cross referencing the site with your description it sounds promising. Hmmm... can't seem to find anything out there... yet

nick.K (nick.K), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 07:52 (twenty-two years ago)

the little oil pastel details on each record are really nice - though that "Anonyme" one's not got the same artwork - beware the wrath of the oil pasteller, Anonyme!! stay underground!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)

from your link, nick K:

[gainsaid] Completely bereft of sense, Lansleg surrendered to the snorting and crunching of the mailcarriage that rumbled in an unpredictable monotony through a gloomy plain, pulled by a gigantic centipede. And even while the horn was announcing the speedy arrival in another place, he knew, that he wouldn't want to stay there... [selvsyn] Wolfram regularly vanished into an adventurous sweet world made of butter mountains and milklakes. And even now, almost 20 years later, in any club a melancolic thrill runs through him: Yes grandma, I can buttertrance"

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)

new answers

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 12 September 2002 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Enjoying what I found, (can't name tracks, they're just strings of numbers) it sounds something like a german Clear records, but I should be getting some properly next week.
meanwhile .....Thomas Fehlmann - Streets of Blah

nick.K (nick.K), Thursday, 12 September 2002 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

i want new answrs

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 19:40 (twenty-two years ago)

seven months pass...
people have been talking about the bis neun mix & etc etc - tracer hand you may finally have the audience yr thread deserves!

Ess Kay (esskay), Monday, 5 May 2003 22:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't have Bis Neun (slow dialup) but I got a couple of the Basteroid singles--awesome. Good stuff. Balances well between pop and motorik but not cloying like Kompakt can be (especially lately).

adam (adam), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...
Tim Finney writes about some Areal stuff (including Basteroid) here

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 04:34 (twenty-one years ago)

most of the stuff I've heard has been fairly ace, though I couldn't offhand define its aesthetic +/- similar labels (Kompakt, Perlon et al). perhaps I should make this a project.

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 06:37 (twenty-one years ago)

holy fuck I'm playing Bis Nuen right now for the first time (found it in the boxes I'm unpacking) and the first 2 trax are cool but trk 3 Metope ft. Ada "Livedriver" is GREAT. funked-out electro w/bass like the center of a thin sheet-metal door wobbling in and out due to giant wind gusts only regularly, elastic synth hooks everywhere, thin but perfect vocal (nonchalant but just on the edge of caring too much) and it's all so squelchy. yum yum yum.

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

What do you think of track 4???

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 05:00 (twenty-one years ago)

sounded good but I was caught up in something else when it came on. will listen again tomorrow

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 07:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I just picked up three 12"s -- Konfekt's "Boxed[Estab]"/"Mentt(Ambis)", Konfekt's "Jez[Sof]"/"Rex(Pol)", and Ada's utterly sublime "Believer"/"Arriba Amoeba" -- and if anything the singles are even better that Bis Neun, amazing as it is, just because they're so rich and full and thick and go on for ever spiraling through the most unlikely changes possible. Areal has catapulted itselt straight into my "buy on sight" category, which is a spot reserved for very, very few labels.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)

am finally listening to it again (busy busy busy) and track 4 is like some kind of robot-squelch-micro-klang wet dream I've been having for years but am only finally hearing now. OK, it's not, but the descriptors apply and it is pretty fucking nice

M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 29 August 2003 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

six months pass...
really really feeling Metope's "Disaster" (& "Discordant"!!!), Remute's "Sad Little Inhuman Thing" ("Beta Babe" is sorta Arealkufen, heh), & Ada's "And More" (what do other ppl think of the post-3 minute wtf?!? bit?).

mmmmmmn, granularity.

etc, Friday, 5 March 2004 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

My favourite Areal has been Metope's "Noforce/Darkslide," though all have been pretty great.

Philippe (Philippe), Friday, 5 March 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

So, who can tell me more about "AREALCD2 V/A - BIS NEUNZEHN (MIXED BY JAN-ERIC KAISER)", apparently out in April?

If it doesn't have all these Ada tracks everyone keeps talking about I will cry.

As I said on my blog the other day, I pulled out Bis Neun again recently and was shocked to remember how great it sounded, esp. the Metope tracks!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 8 March 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

they seem to be on their way to becoming the next bpitch control: balancing tough jams that could easily slot into an electro/techno set (if their pace weren't so laid back) with more tuneful, 80s or pop influenced material. i think lately bpitch has lost the balance and are leaning heavily on the pop sound, areal seems to be moving (i hope! to balance out the trend) in the opposite direction.

my picks of the recent material: basteroid's "sympathy for disruption" (both sides), metope's "discordant", ada's "arriba amoeba", the a1 and b1 on basteroid's "against luftwiderstand"

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

why the electro/techno crew haven't picked up on this stuff i don't know. you'd only have to speed it up a tiny bit to slot those basteroid tracks into a radioactive man set (for example).

why has the dmx krew / drexciya electronerd axis ignored this stuff?? they seem to associate it with labels like playhouse, i think it's coming from somewhere else entirely. far to the left of kompakt or klang, in terms of sheer techiness.

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Still to housey? Just? Okay i guess there's *no* excuse for Basteroid?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm still really not feeling bis neun after almost a year. then again i listened to immer the other day for the first time in three or four months and was kinda losing interest by the end. (don't take away my micro-house lisencse, please.)

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 02:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Strongo surely you at least love tracks 3 and 4 on Bis Neun? If not there is no hope for you. Did you download that Koivikko Eucalyptus mix?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 03:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i need to re-listen. i think i am in a vulgarities mode/mood these days.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 03:51 (twenty-one years ago)

This Basteroid stuff is great.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 18 March 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

So anyone hear Bisneunzehn (the follow-up compilation/mix)?

Omar (Omar), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

AREAL CD 002 AREAL RECORDS - "BIS NEUNZEHN" MIXED-CD
The Areal presents a funny cross-section of newer releases, mixed by Jan-Eric Kaiser, who like always roots through the areal history without fear and reproach.
Strange, hard, tender, sick, nice, what, sexy, in every case a big fun for the whole family.
With Konfekt, Metope, Ada, Basteroid and Remute, this release is as contrasting as it is compatible.
They give each other the relaystick and run like hell immediately.

Date of Release: 19th of April 2004

. . . this on slsk yet?

etc, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Why is this thread not jumpin' by now????

You people...

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Er... because i have no way of hearing this yet? And I presume the same is true of other people who might want to hear it. BUT I WANT IT BAD!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Tim, I'd sort you out but I murdered my Mac.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

You can make up for it by stoking my impatience with some details and thoughts.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 1 April 2004 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
the new release is called Rabimmel Rabammel Rabum Bum Bum!!!

etc, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 05:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't find the strength to get over-excited about Areal.

I can't find the strength to get excited about threads on here about labels that release 12" singles, and then only get active when the label releases a compilation CD.

___ (___), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 07:32 (twenty-one years ago)

basteroid's "rabimmel" sorta sounds like hyper-on experience's "thunder grip" spending sunday at the funfair & getting giddy on the hasn't-been-cleaned-in-decades acieeeed rollercoaster.

etc, Monday, 7 June 2004 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Hooray! The Areal thread is back.

I have Rabimmelblahblah but I haven't listened to it yet.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 7 June 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

music has the right to children: "boys in shorts" :: seasonally affective : metope's "rabum"

(ok this doesn't really hold up more than a little way into the track. now it's more SET YO BODY FREE SET YO BODY FREE &c&c&c)

(ok now it's back to how it was originally!)

etc, Monday, 7 June 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

ada's "bum bum" starts out a lot more arid than you'd expect from the title (no blechdom antix? prob. just as well), tho it
areal sorta gestures towards anthemic-ness tho never fully reaches for the ring - I sorta wish they'd have a few more vocal tracks (tho again, I suppose hearing areal tracks in the mix primarily in only-areal mixes makes this seem a bigger thing that it is), or at least let, say, this track go all out french-bling &c (well, there's a sort of "the terrace" vibe about it).
I'd really like to dance to this, actually - a big ballet of crackles & snap-frozen peas or something.

etc, Monday, 7 June 2004 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I still can't think of anything clever to say sbout konfekt's "rabammel", sigh.

etc, Monday, 7 June 2004 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

now that I'm at a sorta new flat w/a stereo in the lounge, I think I'll be able to get my head around bis neunzehn better - it didn't suit lying-in-bed-falling-asleep as much as, say, fabric 13 or smallville.

etc, Monday, 7 June 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

etc have you heard Princess Him's "Gone"? You might like it.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 04:46 (twenty-one years ago)

areal's slogan should be 'we're a bit banging'.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 8 June 2004 08:53 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
Basteroid is cool! Finally found the mix cd totally by accident in the Ameoba used bin.

hector (hector), Friday, 30 July 2004 19:59 (twenty years ago)

encore!

AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 02:12 (twenty years ago)

"Lovelace" may be my favourite thing from this year.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 03:02 (twenty years ago)

I'd say "And More" is just as good as "Lovelace". Hopefully we will get an Ada full length by 2005

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 12:30 (twenty years ago)

Ada full length coming sooner than you think - October, I do believe.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:12 (twenty years ago)

The inevitable question being: is it collecting 12"'s or is it going to be all new material or is it a combo of both?

Sam Benson (Sam Benson), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:14 (twenty years ago)

I believe all new material, though I could be wrong. There definitely will be new material on it, and the tracks I've heard are luuuuuuvly.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 18:32 (twenty years ago)

these people are insane


YEAH!!!!

(just got "2r2r2r2bb")

ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

TEH NOIZE

fe7 (FE7), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

the heritage of auftrieb is in good hands

fe7 (FE7), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

enjoy metope today (!) chewshabadoo

i still dont really like their artwork though

ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 19 August 2005 02:27 (nineteen years ago)

not even the penguin?!

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 19 August 2005 02:45 (nineteen years ago)

I *LOVE* the artwork!

And I'm a huge fan of Commodore 64 music (it was my first music love as a ten year old)

So, I guess this is why I like them.

And I'll certainly be enjoying myself tonight!

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 19 August 2005 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

"Elisabeth did not expect anything like this at all. Just a few moments ago, she was still on the farm milking the cows and now this: pieces of planets flying around her face, pieces of rocks as big as a cow stable and actually everything you can imagine. Has the earth got blown up?

Has she milked the cows too heavily so that she had been catapulted into another dimension?"

= brilliant / out-kompakting kompakt descriptoramas...

natedey, Friday, 19 August 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

It would be even more funny if stuff like that accompanied 12K releases.

"You wake up on the sidewalk, having absorbed some gravel into the sides of your cheeks...."

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

would it be too much to ask that someone uploads a few tracks released on this label?

petlover, Friday, 19 August 2005 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

x-post:

or "you wake up on the sidewalk from a failed attempt to milk it..."

not x-post:
http://www.areal-records.com/

they have samples of all the records they've released...it's definitely worth checking out.

natedey, Friday, 19 August 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

If you check around some of the recent file threads, people have posted links to Ada's Sonar 2005 set. It's reasonably representative.

mike h. (mike h.), Friday, 19 August 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

Is Ada's 'sound' fairly representative of Areal generally (albeit on the softer side) then?

It's always seemed that way whenever I've downloaded tidbits before... am I missing a huge amount not getting a compilation/mix at the same time as I order 'Blondie'?

Which I am going to have to import via the Kompakt store (way overdue, but can't find it online anywhere else in the UK).

fandango (fandango), Friday, 19 August 2005 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=15365

I don't think any of the rest of the Areal stuff sounds like Ada. Bis Neunzehn is worth a punt.

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Friday, 19 August 2005 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.boomkat.com/include/img/btn/b_sorryOutOfStock01.gif

Maybe there's one I haven't tried... but ordering from Kompakt isn't really that much hassle. I can get a few other things while I'm there which I've not been able to find either. They may throw in stickers!

fandango (fandango), Friday, 19 August 2005 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

Ada is definitely the listener-friendliest of Areal's roster -- any one of their mixed Bis Neun____ or unmixed 2Rabimmel... CDs makes that abundantly clear (especially the latter).

If you're looking for more Ada-esque musik (who said Abba-esque?), might I suggest you Triple R's Friends mix disc a spin (or six)? For I, for one (an apparent minority), think Blondie's weak tracks outnumber its strong tracks at a rate of 3:1.

As far as representative of Areal's sound, I would mos-definitely pick up 2Rabimmel... first (and if you like and/or love it work backward through Bis Neunzehn and Bis Neun). After many (car, iPod, home stereo) listens, 2Rabimmel... sounds more and more like a wholly coherent, single artist album than any compilation I've heard in a long time. It's amazing how like-minded the work of the Areal collective appears. And I mean that in a good way. A very, very good way.

Zimmer026 (Zimmer026), Saturday, 20 August 2005 01:46 (nineteen years ago)

...2Rabimmel... sounds more and more like a wholly coherent, single artist album than any compilation I've heard in a long time. It's amazing how like-minded the work of the Areal collective appears...

With Ada's two noteworthy tracks adding balance to the thick crunch of her labelmates' work product, of course.

Zimmer026 (Zimmer026), Saturday, 20 August 2005 01:58 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm, thinking re Blondie:

GREAT TRACKS: Eve, Cool My Fire (I'm Burning), The Red Shoes, Each & Every One, Maps

Very Good Tracks: Lifedriver, Les Danseuses, Cool My Fire

Pretty Good Track: Our Love Never Dies

Crap: Who Pays The Bill

That seems pretty good to me!

I also think both Bis Neun and Bis Neunzehn are pretty essential; I'd probably give the edge to the latter on account of the "Believer" and especially "Against Luftwiderstand".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 20 August 2005 02:38 (nineteen years ago)

I'd agree with that except I'd say "our love never dies" is very good too

such a lovely record

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 28 August 2005 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

Who Pays The Bills really IS crap, though.

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Sunday, 28 August 2005 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

"I'd agree with that except I'd say "our love never dies" is very good too"

Yeah I like it too - I was trying to underrate everything so as to be generous to Zimmer's assessment (and STILL five tracks came out as "great". My usual feeling is that "Eve" especially is one of the best things ever).

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 29 August 2005 03:20 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone heard Metope's Kobal?

T. Weiss (Timmy), Monday, 29 August 2005 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, it's a monster, to say the least.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 29 August 2005 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

Rather than defend/refute Tim's "generous" (imho: to Ada, not me) assessment in a reactionary manner, I decided I’d be fair, and balanced, and give Blondie an umpteenth reevaluation.

Yet upon further (i.e. three more weeks of) review (and please keep in mind that outside of Blondie I blindly pledged my faith to all that is Arealism back when I first heard [how's this for irony?] Ada's "Blindhouse" on Triple R's Friends back in late '02/early '03), I'm sticking with my opinion that, overall, the album – as an album – is underwhelming.

I’ll readily concede that part of the basis for my conclusion is the fact that I have been listening to the primary (and the vast majority of compelling) elements of both "Each And Everyone (Blindhouse)" (under the guise Ada’s original version of "Blindhouse") and "Lifedriver" (under the guise of Metope’s "Lifedriver" featuring Ada) since late and early ‘02 respectively.

In short, I’d have liked to hear Ada do/release an album chock-full of previously unreleased material, particularly when given the opportunity that is a full-length. Consequently as a consequence of the incredible depth and creativity I initially heard in both of the abovementioned classic tracks, my expectations of her long-player were greater than the recycled (i.e. remixed) material she delivered. As I think I implied upthread, Ada’s contributions to the 2Rabimmel… compilation are not only necessary (i.e. give balance) to it, but also demonstrate her talent (i.e. ability) in a way that Blondie, as a whole, doesn’t.

That leaves, for me: "Eve," "Cool My Fire (I’m Burning)," and "Our Love Never Dies" as the three GREAT TRACKS; "The Red Shoes" as the lone Very Good Track; "Maps" and "Les Danseuses" as the two Pretty Good Tracks (even if the former is recycled/remixed a la albeit differently than "Blindhouse" + "Lifedriver," and I skip past the latter regularly); 3.5 recycled/remixed tracks two of which that don’t surpass the originals (the second, slowed-down, not-burning version of "Cool My Fire"? An OK outro, but…); and I can’t really add anything to the discussion of "Who Pays The Bill" that hasn’t been written already.

My scorecard then (even if I am loathe to break an album down like this) has Blondie with 3 Great, 1 Very Good, 1.5 Pretty Good (read: OK), 3.5 Recycled/Rehashed/Meh tracks and 1 Crap(per).

Perhaps I overstated my weak:strong track ratio upthread, but not by much.

Zimmer026 (Zimmer026), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

Para. 2, Line 2 should have read: "Consequently, and as a consequence..."

Zimmer026 (Zimmer026), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

3 great is pretty good for a CD, especially if many of those picking it up don't have the earlier vinyl as you do. The worst thing about the album is its lack of "Believer".

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 9 September 2005 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

It took me a while, but I think I now prefer "Each and Every One" to the original "Blindhouse" - the two-note organ melody and storm of snares at the end especially.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 10 September 2005 05:48 (nineteen years ago)

i am still into this label when the bring the toughness - haven't heard the metope album but it sounds particularly good on that front - but even when they are in full flexxx mode it still sometimes sounds like twee-er versions of cristian vogel / tobias schmidt / neil landstrumm.

vahid (vahid), Saturday, 10 September 2005 06:01 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah but I think it's the tweeness that makes it interesting maybe? Like, "Against Luftwiderstand" certainly isn't the hardest, most full-on dance track ever, but the very fact that it does make concessions to twee/melodic manoeuvres (although less so than Ada, say, and it's sublmated) gives its brutality all the more force, makes it feel much more apocalyptic.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 10 September 2005 06:40 (nineteen years ago)

Do you recommend KONFEKT'S QUENGE LIESE /Rear Besen?

nocure, Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

xpost: is there a limit to how much dialectical thinking we can do about dance music, tim? i mean, i follow your point, but i could easily posit the same thing w/ areal in general vis-a-vis the vogel / schmidt / subhead / landstrumm axis (hey, did you ever hear tarrida's globus 6? why didn't people follow up on it? it's like as close a spiritual predecessor to body language as anything else) and you can see how that leads us into endless labyrinths of relativism ("this house is minimal" / "compared to what?")

not that there's anything wrong w/ this relativism (which is i guess a fancy way of saying "all our terms are subjective, duh") except i have noticed that paradoxically it seems to lead to more "groupthink" rather than less (perhaps by encouraging lazy thinking?).

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

"xpost: is there a limit to how much dialectical thinking we can do about dance music, tim?"

Dunno! I think the problem is not that my cod-dialectics runs up against a limit, but that it does allow for lazy thinking as you say - but then I'd say that simple oppositions of hardness/tweeness are already inviting a certain laziness. If Areal are simply a more twee version of [x], and if that tweeness is not in and of itself valuable somehow, what purpose does Areal serve?

The K-Punk-style argument here - "Areal serves the purpose of llegitimating the false consciousness of a mass of bourgeois listeners whose fantastical enjoyment is structured by tweeness" - is not, for me, sufficient; it imports a certain vision of ethical engagement with music as a deus ex machina in order to resolve the deadlock of positing in the first instance what music is supposed to do.

All I can do is attempt to explain in as accurate a manner as possible why, say, "Against Luftwiderstand" hits me so hard, when I know that it is in fact not the hardest thing ever (allowing for definitions of "hardness" - let's pretend that in this context we're talking about a certain type of sonic muscularity and harshness). This counter-intuitive perception of hardness is not only in me as much as it is in the music; we should also insist that it is in the music as much as it is in me. i.e. what it is it in the music that my subjective perspective is interlocking with?

Chalking it up to dialectics is also insufficient if I can't explain how that's actually working for me, and I guess I would say that on the level of the sound-as-I-hear-it, "Against Luftwiderstand" tends to posit a certain fragility (those big whirring trebly synths) which it then proceeds to stomp on our consume with its rollicking bassy groove...but then the fragility returns as a sort of spectral presence in the form of the astonishingly nervous acidic bass riff Basteroid intermittently deploys (it's probably hard to specify which bassline i'm actually talking about - unless you already know the one I mean we'd probably have to sit down and listen to it together so I could signpost it) - a bassline which seems to somehow symbolize a certain doubt or concern about the tune's own destructive programme (along the lines of "what am I doing?/what have I done???").

As you say, the same dialectical operation might be done in reverse for the Tresor axis you mention - I think both can be correct because, as I've argued elsewhere, the impact of music is not, I suspect, tied to some ideal implementation of certain "correct" elements (e.g. Hardness NOT Tweeness), but rather to the articulation of something that is minimally different; in the absence of absolute sonic extremism this difference will always, I think, be somewhat dialectical (and even in the case of sonic extemism, the impact of a piece of noise unlike anything we have heard for before is shaped by the fact that we are hearing it as music).

To return to the issue of the subjective perspective (and the difficulty it causes for establishing and agreeing upon terms), it might be helpful to clarify what we mean by this - for me, it is simply the "intertextual" understanding that you never arrive at a piece of music with a clean slate; you always bring with you the sum total of your listening experience (in the sense of listening to, reacting to and thinking about music).

In this sense "Against Luftwiderstand" is not merely a dialectical process in and of itself, but a point in the dialectical process of my own listening. So another way of putting your relativist definitional quandary ("this house is minimal" / "compared to what?") is "this house is minimal/minimal for whom?".

I don't think this deadlock is easily resolvable, except insofar as we can answer this question: for whom? For me. The burden of music criticism then becomes to sketch out the vantage point from which we can say "this house is minimal", the particular point which grounds our universality. I think the problems start piling on when we assume that this vantage point is itself universal, or we simply incorporate an accepted vantage point as our own (on the assumption that it is universal). This is the cause of the lazy groupthink you refer to, I suspect:

"This house is minimal"

"Compared to what?"

"Other house music"

"Okay then, minimal for whom?"

"Philip Sherburne, and thefore myself"

(with apologies to Philip!)

BTW Vahid, I love that Tarrida mix! Sadly it's another CD I have lost and now never see around! (Tragically, I recently lost a whole swag of other CDs, including Platinum Breakz 1 and 2!!!)

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 00:41 (nineteen years ago)

this metope album's pretty great, on first listen...

toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 01:19 (nineteen years ago)

seven months pass...
Revive

Roque Strew (RoqueStrew), Sunday, 16 April 2006 10:01 (nineteen years ago)

I think my last post on this thread scared everyone away.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 16 April 2006 23:39 (nineteen years ago)

I still love asphalt and am surprised i find nary a word about it here...

natedey (ndeyoung), Sunday, 16 April 2006 23:49 (nineteen years ago)

Tim, we're just suffering from a silence-inducing case of Skykicking deficiency!

Anyone listen to that new Roan EP? I really like it so far: dense, funky in its way, more "experimental" than the usual Areal fare, I'd say

Roque Strew (RoqueStrew), Monday, 17 April 2006 04:36 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

Listening to Bis Neun again today - time will not tarnish its amazingness. That said it's easy to forget just how monstrous Areal sounded in 2003/2004, and it seems a bit sad that the music's basic impulse is absent at the moment - is there any (good) clunky dance music at the mo? Apart from UK funky house at times obv? Am I forgetting something?

I wonder what Misc's Crunch Time album will sound like to my 2008 ears if I put it on now.

I will always love now and forever Metope's "Selvsyn", what a WTF groove.

Although still not as WTF as that weird dialectics screed I posted in this thread.

Tim F, Thursday, 7 August 2008 07:42 (sixteen years ago)

Glancing back over it I think I did a decent job capturing what is so loveable about this music in this piece (if I do say so myself). I remember being slightly disappointed by "Sonnenbrilliant" because it seemed like Basteroid had started to confuse toughness with toughness with hardness, and ended up leapfrogging Sender Records to end up closer to Black Strobe (circa 2004) territory. Which is not a bad thing but it felt like a move away from the, erm, tough fleshiness that I associate with Areal. In Areal's robo-battles there should always be goblets of bloody, quivering flesh lying strewn through the field. That's why tracks like "Against Luftwiderstand" and "Libertango" feel oddly melancholy: these killing machines still feel pain as their parts are slowly, painfully dismembered.

Tim F, Thursday, 7 August 2008 07:55 (sixteen years ago)

Yes grandma, I can buttertrance

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 August 2008 10:16 (sixteen years ago)

four months pass...

I still fucking love this label. Did anyone ever get around to checking out the AR series? AR3 is pretty good and could actually work in the context of a more contemporary set (ie stripped back not Basteroid-excessive).

Shh! It's NOT Me!, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 08:00 (sixteen years ago)

Got this the other day - http://www.discogs.com/release/1537492 - the Koze track is great.

Kaliova, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 09:04 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

Loving Onze's Goodbye Lino at the moment. Probably too 'Kompakty' for current tastemakers though.

mmmm, Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

The B-side is more upbeat, the A-side is lovely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20hEpc9G2Zo

mmmm, Sunday, 13 June 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)

ten months pass...

New LP from Areal's Ada on DJ Koze's Pampa. Nice work, features a reedit of the great tracks of the Cologne Tape thing (intro) and only two that will danceable.

mmmm, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 09:48 (fourteen years ago)

i have great memories of seeing Ada DJ in New York several years ago at some place off Canal Street.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 10:15 (fourteen years ago)

nine months pass...

It's not much of follow up to 'bis neunzehn' but Areal have released 'lazerwhales' a digital only comp of recent release. It starts well with Onze.

mmmm, Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

five years pass...

I had never heard Basteroid's "29 Forever" from 2006 before now but it's brilliant, maybe sleeker / more tech-house than his classic sound but it's just about up there with "Against Luftwiderstand" for me in bringing the "weep for me, I created Skynet" machine-melancholy vibes.

Tim F, Sunday, 3 September 2017 21:17 (seven years ago)

areal is such a unique label, it's hard to slot that crunchy blippy terminator apocalypse sound into any preexisting niches. i've never heard areal records in a club

brimstead, Sunday, 3 September 2017 21:23 (seven years ago)

clangin and bangin

brimstead, Sunday, 3 September 2017 21:24 (seven years ago)

Yeah I talk a lot upthread about the uniqueness of their sonic attack, which maybe Metope's work captured most clearly/consistently.

Tim F, Sunday, 3 September 2017 21:26 (seven years ago)


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