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This is the thread which puts together all albums from here which haven't been defended yet. Have you got any darlings there? Then stand up and try to convince the sceptics!

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Thursday, 12 September 2002 08:43 (twenty-three years ago)

THE BACKLIST UP TILL NOW:

- the new one by Doves then. And 'The Holy Bible' by the Manic Stret Preachers.-- jack frobisher
- brown eyed girl" by van morrison -- michael w
- Radar Brothers — And the Surrounding Mountains -- christoff
- Meatloaf - "Bat Out of Hell" -- Lord Custos Alpha
- "The Teaches of Peaches" Peaches -- Dom Passantino
- The Velvet Underground- "Squeeze" -- brg30
- Basement Jaxx - Rooty (I do "get" the single though). -- Dave Beckhouse
- The Verve - Urban Hymns -- Mr Swygart
- Miss Kittin and The Hacker. -- Chupa-Cabras
- Bruce Springsteen, The Rising -- M Matos
- Audio Bullyz - 'Real Life' -- Mr Swygart
- Absurd's "Facta Luquuntur" -- Siegbran Hetteson
- Xinlisupreme "All You Need Is Love Was Not True" -- Graham
- Bush Tetras-"Too Many Creeps" -- Arthur
- Gavin Bryars - Jesus' Blood Never Failed Me Yet -- sundar subramanian
- anything by Interpol -- coelcanth
- Spin Doctor - Pocket full of Kryptonite -- Chris V.
- Radiohead - OK Computer. -- alex in mainhattan
- Kick out the jams- MC5 -- Julio Desouza
- Jesus & Mary Chain - Darklands -- sundar subramanian
- Anything by the Sundays. -- d.r.
- Source Tags and Codes -- Brian Mowrey
- Anything by Diana Krall or the Jon Spencer Blues Explosion. -- Underclocked

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Thursday, 12 September 2002 08:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Meatloaf - "Bat Out of Hell" - Because it's everything you love that's awful about Bruce Springsteen, rock musicals, pianos, and sleazy come on lines, because the album cover is fantastic without being sci-fi, because the thing kept selling for ever somehow, someway, because the lead vocals are performed by a fat man who goes by the sobriquet "MEATLOAF", because the backing vocals are by one of the chicks (but not 'the' chick) from Nite Court, because Phil Rizzuto pops up on it's biggest hit, because without it Bonnie Tyler and Celine Dion wouldn't have had the best moments of their careers, because you'll never need to actually buy it because someone you know already owns it (even if they won't admit it). Because it's simultaneously so pretentious and so unpretentious.

James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 12 September 2002 09:14 (twenty-three years ago)

"Brown Eyed Girl" - Because it's the biggest hit Van Morrison has ever had and will ever have and he hates it. Because when people say someone sounds like Van Morrison what they mean is "when he goes 'sha-la-la' it sound like 'Brown Eyed Girl'. Because it's a simple unpretentious little pop song from someone whose career suggests (and whose statements declare) an inability to make simple unpretentious little pop songs. Because he's got a great voice but for once he doesn't oversing. Because it's about a Brown Eyed Girl instead of a Blue Eyed Girl or even a Green Eyed Lady. Because it's really quite romantic without laying on too thick. Because it sounds like being in love, in the summer, and that trumps all.

James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 12 September 2002 09:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Anything by the Sundays - because the Smiths broke up and Johnny went electronic.

James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 12 September 2002 09:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Okay, here's a new one:


The Who - Quadrophrenia

James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 12 September 2002 09:29 (twenty-three years ago)

The Velvet Underground- "Squeeze"

Firstly, I've never met anyone who'se owned a copy and the only people I know who've heard it, heard my copy, so for a start I think it gets slagged off as a kneejerk reaction.

Secondly if you listen expecting White Light or Heroin or such like of course you'll be disappointed, what the album is is a great early 70's pop/rock album with a strong Lou Reed influence in the song writign department. Its got strong melodies, cathcy hooks and some amusignly wacky arrangements. Bascially it's a bad Velvet Underground album but a great Doug Yule album and better than some of the solo albums by other alumnus of the VU.

If it had actually been a Doug Yule solo album it'd be a lost classic of the easrly 70's to rank alongside Big Star or Starry Eyed & Laughing.

tigerclawskank, Thursday, 12 September 2002 09:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Gavin Bryars - Jesus' Blood Never Failed Me Yet -- sundar subramanian

I'm not very good at explaining why I like a piece of music, and the simpler it is, the less there is to say about it, but here's my try. I believe that the point at which Brayr's instrumental passage comes in while the loop of the singer is being played changes slightly, which lends some interest to the piece for people like me who have listened to excessive amounts of minimalist music. I like the way the singer breaks the phrase down into very discrete parts: "Jesus' blood never failed me/[pause--a millisecond 'too long'] yet." On the other hand, I have sometimes been baffled as to why I like this recording, but I do.

Destroy: the version Gavin Bryars did with Tom Waits added to the ending. (I think Bryars has since expressed regret about that.)

DeRayMi, Thursday, 12 September 2002 10:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Bush Tetras-"Too Many Creeps" -- because it's a groover, the lyrics are great and the b-side makes me want to fuck.

stirmonster, Thursday, 12 September 2002 10:20 (twenty-three years ago)

MC 5 – Kick Out the Jams

“Kick Out the Jams” to me is a rock and roll missing link artifact. It is American Maximum R&B, the beginnings of heavy metal with the thrust of what would become punk with segments of feedback guitar freakery inspired by Sun Ra’s cosmic music. The record seems to me to sound like a blend of sweat, weed and burning gasoline.

The music isn’t dissimilar to either 70s Ted Nugent or current hipster neo- garage acts, with chugging hard rock and roll with some interesting two guitar harmony interplay. I particularly like how Sonic Smith & Wayne Kramer’s guitars dual it out hammering the riff through out “Rocket Reducer No. 62” while the drums wail around the music not unlike Keith Moon.

The over the top proclamations between songs of Brother J.C. and Rob Tyner railing against the man and rally cries to come together are definitely of their time, but to me are cool funky artifacts of that time not unlike some of the sly street talk of mid 70s blaxploitation influenced R&B and funk.

If it all comes out too over the top or too brash, don’t worry, it is obvious that many rock and roll fans didn’t get it at the time either. “Kick Out the Jams” doesn’t have the nihilistic streak of The Stooges, doesn’t sound as far freaked out today (as many guitar bands have taken the freak to further beyond solar systems) and doesn’t have the still provocative lyrics of the Velvets; so perhaps to many listeners is might sound a bit tame or lunkheaded, considering the fury that others have created in its wake. I think it rocks.

earlnash, Thursday, 12 September 2002 10:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Basement Jaxx - Rooty (I do "get" the single though).

Imagine they're all singles, it's easy if you try.

(I know this is no good as an explanation of Rooty's greatness btw, might well try later).

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 12 September 2002 10:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Imagine it's a collection of singles and b-sides makes the filler sound better.

James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 12 September 2002 11:12 (twenty-three years ago)

If someone would re-post Dave Q's comments re: The Rising I think that could count for it; definitely the best thing I've seen written about it so far.

James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 12 September 2002 11:51 (twenty-three years ago)

'Quadrophenia' - because 'Farewell to Kings' and 'Hemispheres' would've been unimagineable without it

dave q, Thursday, 12 September 2002 11:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Bohoo, Alex hates me and refuses to include *my* unanswered suggestions...and I was so looking forward to knowing what's so great about Kraftwerk BESIDES the influence, too...

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 12 September 2002 11:59 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm trying to post abt Kraftwerk but the machine rebels!

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 12 September 2002 12:08 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~tewing/kraftwerk.html

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 12 September 2002 12:09 (twenty-three years ago)

What was the conventional explanation given as to why Kraftwerk was sampled so much - it's so white it's black!

James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 12 September 2002 12:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Imagine they're all singles, it's easy if you try.

(ha ha)

One reason I like "Romeo" on Rooty, even though I don't like most house, is that there are very upfront counter-rhythms going on in the song.

DeRayMi, Thursday, 12 September 2002 13:55 (twenty-three years ago)

I just caught the Lennon joke.

"No Technotronic below us. Above us only sky."

James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 12 September 2002 14:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I answered about Peaches in that other thread.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 12 September 2002 15:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Tom that was a GREAT article about Kraftwerk. To me they are not kitsch, but rather the voice of those of us who still belive in the Modernist dream, but a refined dream, one that understands the destruction that has occured in the name of Modernization. A dream that does not involve tower blocks, but, well, ILx (aka an actual community enabled by technology.)

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Thursday, 12 September 2002 15:30 (twenty-three years ago)

ilx: "the destruction that has occured in the name of Modernization"!!

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 12 September 2002 15:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Radar Brothers — And the Surrounding Mountains

OK then, so it's not as suicidal as their debut, and it's not as lyrically hung up on "Your record label did me out of money" as their second album, but then that can only be a good thing - the songs seem to be about family and finding happiness. This third Radar Brothers adds an almost Spector-esque grandeur to their simple three chord slow motion songs, with peculiar time changes and the occasional sleighbell and synth string part filling in the corners of the songs where previously there would be empty space. It's not an album you can take individual songs from, it works best as a whole entity. It's the kind of record you can have in the background for a week and it will seep into your system when you least expect it - those tunes get under your skin in the nicest way. Yes, it's an acquired taste, but it suits me. Probably one of my albums of the year, and not one I'm sick of yet (unlike "YHF").

Rob M, Friday, 13 September 2002 08:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Rob M. -- in regards to to the Radar Brothers.

Initially, i found the album very listenable; then it just fell out, and failed to offer any real substance. And now, it just feels boring and predictable.

I like you case for music that slowly creeps under your skin, and g. knows i've experienced a number of albums that evolved as such -- thing is, initial listens are usually accompanied with distaste or indifference until it finally "hits ya". A most recent example would be Summer Hymns' Voice Brother & Sister which took at least a dozen run-throughs to dig.

Thanks for the op though

¥

christoff (christoff), Friday, 13 September 2002 12:02 (twenty-three years ago)

I really like the first Summer Hymns record.

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 13 September 2002 12:49 (twenty-three years ago)

three months pass...
R.E.M. Automatic for the People

mei (mei), Thursday, 2 January 2003 11:00 (twenty-two years ago)

'Pocket Full of Kryptonite' - because of the GENUINE INTRA-BAND CONTROVERSY over the 'dog scene' in the 'Little Miss Can't Be Wrong' video. (Also, if "Two Princes" were by the Beautiful South or Badly Drawn Boy or New Order everybody would just LOVE it)

dave q, Thursday, 2 January 2003 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)

esus and Mary Chain - Darklands is a regular rock n roll album, but in the midst of those worn chord progressions and machismo platitudes for lyrics are moments of clearity. "April Skies" is one of the great "end of the road songs", up there with The Stones' "Angie" or The Doors' "The End" if you will. It's a record about failure in love and life, and loss of identity. It's not as good as Psycho Candy, but definetly one of their best records.
Looking over att my record collection, I just noticed (after I'd started to write this...) that Darklands stands foremost, leaning against the stereo. It actually sais a lot about it's caracter: sort of easy to play whenever the feeling of emptiness creeps up inside. Not leaving much behind.

of heaven, Friday, 3 January 2003 06:25 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...
Air: Moon Safari. I have some clue, but I'm still amazed that it's so highly acclaimed.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 01:45 (twenty-two years ago)

What is this thread about? When I saw the Bush Tetras, I thought only Alex in NY would have the record, or maybe Arthur. I look and see it is Arthur's name after the record in the above list. It was never, ever reissued was it? Hey, I was a kid when it came out. But I read about it. Anyway, what is this thread about?

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 02:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Sean, it's a continuation of this thread. I think it still has potential life in it.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 02:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I bought a Bush Tetras reissue on ROIR cassette, and it had "Too Many Creeps" on it. I think I got rid of it, because it no longer sounded edgy and exciting as it had when I was 13 or 14. I don't remember if it was a reissue of an actual album, or if it was a compilation.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 02:08 (twenty-two years ago)

If it came out when you were that age, then you're my age right? (i'm 35). Anyway yay early 80s.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 03:15 (twenty-two years ago)

(I'm 37. Not sure exactly when I heard it. The local DJ Lee Paris "I'm not on speed I just talk thisway" used to play it on "Yesterday's Now Music Today," my introduction to this sort of stuff.)

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Blues Explosion el rockos la rolla. Que pasa?

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Sun Ra: Atlantis

Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 6 April 2003 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Masters of Reality-Sunrise on the Sufferbus

SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Sunday, 6 April 2003 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)

"Too Many Creeps" is a sterling example of a record that was completely of its time and place, and just lost all its meaning as time changed. (A girl band singing about harassment in a punk-funk stylee--NYC 1980 or so in a nutshell.) Weirdly enough, the video was the first thing I saw the first time I ever watched MTV--ave atque vale.

Methuselah (Methuselah), Sunday, 6 April 2003 21:21 (twenty-two years ago)

No one backed up The Holy Bible? Bloody hell.

The Holy Bible: The words are my brain a few years ago, and sometimes now, set to the tightest fucking metal possible. It's self- and society-loathing without sounding whiny; James Bradfield can barely get his mouth around the words he's meant to say half the time. I wouldn't think anyone would have to hear anything beyond the guitar solo on "Faster" to get it, but you could try listening to "Yes" if the solo isn't explanatory enough.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 7 April 2003 02:54 (twenty-two years ago)

nine months pass...
i just bought a bush tetras reissue record on roir, 'sound recordings from 80-83' i think. bush tetras: c ou d?

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)

six months pass...
So, still no one has been able to come up with an explanation for liking OK Computer?

Alba (Alba), Monday, 16 August 2004 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Radiohead is one of the few bands that I've avoided simply because of the amount of hype and critical tempests in a teapot regarding the band's brilliance or confirming its hard-won status as the whipping boy of clever iconoclasts everywhere.

Having said that, "Paranoid Android" is a damn good song.

Slim Pickens (Slim Pickens), Monday, 16 August 2004 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Alba, I could explain, but I'm pretty tired of doing so.

The album itself doesn't even really exist in the critical sphere anymore, and has been replaced by two strange doppelgängers, one so revered it's untouchable, the other so execrable that it causes disease, and neither one bears much resemblance to the album.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Monday, 16 August 2004 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)


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