I wish Ian Curtis would quit trying to sound like David Gedge

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What's up with that?!

Also: Why do people think that Joy Division is so great? Too much lame, self-pitying angst for comfort. New Order is a thousand times better, even though it's not cool to say it.

― Nestor Bangs, Thursday, 12 September 2002 21:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Discuss.

― Nestor Bangs, Thursday, 12 September 2002 21:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Dave Gedge sounds more like a hybrid of Morrissey and Kermit the Frog than the late Mr.Curtis (skewed chronology aside to begin with).

Joy Division, in my opinion, wrote music with a bit more depth and emotional gravity than New Order -- which is not to say that New Order aren't magnificent. They're just -- -*****WAIT FOR IT*****- apples and oranges.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 12 September 2002 22:02 (twenty-three years ago)

ian curtis totally sounds like kermit the frog sometimes!

― chaki (chaki), Thursday, 12 September 2002 22:09 (twenty-three years ago)

ian curtis couldnt sing. and a friend of mine once dissed JD for being macho - he meant there was something very earnest and male about the angst.

these criticisms are trenchant, but I'm afraid I can't get past the fact that to me this is some of the only truly beautiful, truly profound, truly lasting music of the last 50 years or so.

music doenst have ot be any of those things, but when it is, it matters!

― jon (jon), Friday, 13 September 2002 08:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Ian Curtis ALREADY quit trying to sound like David Gedge, not to mention several other things?

― My name is Kenny, Friday, 13 September 2002 15:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Nope. I put on Closer just to check and he's still trying.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 13 September 2002 15:33 (twenty-three years ago)

New Order are better, yes, I think this has come up a few times before...

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 13 September 2002 15:38 (twenty-three years ago)

that's why it's not cool to say it: everyone's always saying it

― mark s (mark s), Friday, 13 September 2002 15:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Not better, just different.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 September 2002 04:43 (twenty-three years ago)

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