2 Live Crew - Classic or dud?

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(This may SEEM like it's been discussed, but it has NOT as far as I know.)

I was wondering, can you even GET 2 Live Crew anymore? It seems that they are right up there with The Fat Boys as far as who-gives-a-crap. But, was 2 Live Crew the essence of "what it's all about" as far as main stream "hard core rap" (not a term I invented-- actually, a term I barely understand)?

The reason I ask, is this: In a recent interview Dr. Dre and his wife speak about how he had an image to uphold as far as hard core rap goes. When he stopped using terms like "bitch" and "ho" his sales plummeted with his credibility. His wife gave him the "okay" (actually, she was the one that suggested and encouraged him) to go "back to his roots". Now that he has, he's back on top, producing Eminem and doing guest spots, etc. but he and his wife agree it is just an image to uphold. He would never cheat on his wife or call her a "bitch".

So is this sort of credibility actually credible at all? Eminem's song ("I am whatever you say I am") is along these same lines.

Last I knew 2 Live Crew was sort of thought of as a bad joke... no? What do you think of 2 Live Crew?

Personally, I found it quite amusing in 8th grade.

So classic or dud? No arguments shall follow, as I refuse to comment.

, Saturday, 5 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

you're not supposed to post threads on the weekends.

ethan, Saturday, 5 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Drat! I forgot about that. I just remembered one a day. Good thing you told me before tomorrow...

, Saturday, 5 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

six years pass...
Pity this thread got no further. I remember Move Somethin' being a pretty geat Miami style booty bass rap album, despite the connotations one way or another. Time to reinvestigate?

Manalishi, Sunday, 13 May 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

you're not supposed to post threads on the weekends.

haha, 2001.

Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 13 May 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

Saw 'em live once, as a "secret" opener for Fishbone. They had superb backup dancers; the first time you see girls actually do that 1000mph ass-bounce thing in real life is something you never forget.

unperson, Sunday, 13 May 2007 22:30 (eighteen years ago)

five months pass...

no love for "Nasty As They Wanna Be" from ILM?!?

for shame.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 23:46 (seventeen years ago)

MY SEVEN BIZZOS

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 23:46 (seventeen years ago)

I luv "Nasty"

Maybe it says more about how unsophisticated I am than anything else, but I think the samples on that record are so cool & great

morris pavilion, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 23:55 (seventeen years ago)

I was listening to this the other day and thinking about the "controversy" it engendered and how weird it is that anyone ever seriously took this as some kind of dangerously sexist/mysognistic work. Its just so incredibly goofy, the humor is beyond silly - half the time the swearing and innuendos don't even make sense, you can tell they're just trying to cram as many dirty words into the rhyme as possible... that it was ever taken out of the context of Dolemite/Blowfly/Redd Foxxx/Richard Pryor comedy records is kind of unbelievable.

And the beats ARE pretty great across the board.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 23:55 (seventeen years ago)

"It's my house, and if you don't like it, you can get the fuck out"

snoball, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 23:56 (seventeen years ago)

THANK YOU FOR FUCKIN AT THE FUCK SHOOOOOP

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 23:58 (seventeen years ago)

I wonder what Kubrick and the "me so horny" actress thought about how that line was turned into like the most notorious spoken hook in a dance song eveh. Notwithstanding I guess whether or not they got paid for it (and I'm sure they didn't?)-- they must have sort of loved it, right?? I mean, even after all this time and 1000000x "impressions," it's pretty freakin' genius!!

morris pavilion, Thursday, 8 November 2007 01:57 (seventeen years ago)

move somethin'>>>nasty as they wanna be

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 8 November 2007 01:59 (seventeen years ago)

and the first album is kinda cute with the old school Run DMC sounding shit next to dirty stuff like we want some pussy.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 8 November 2007 02:00 (seventeen years ago)

lololol i took a class on censorship once and had to listen to this record and then make shitty feminist arguments about it.

Roz, Thursday, 8 November 2007 06:40 (seventeen years ago)

I've been listening to "Get the Fuck Out of My House" lately. Hilarious, especially when you keep in mind all the hip-house stuff of the period.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 8 November 2007 06:48 (seventeen years ago)

As for Morris' question, I've read a Kubrick interview where he referred to "Surfin' Bird" as "remarkable" or something -- it was in his Vietnam movie, I guess -- so I'd hope he'd feel the same about the Crew.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 8 November 2007 06:52 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

Fuck the "great because it's fun" vs. "great for freedom" vs. "garbage because of shock value".
This 1986 jam for all time

BAROQUE AS A JOKE! (PappaWheelie V), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 04:38 (sixteen years ago)

four years pass...

anyone know what the lineup of the current tour/reunion is?

flopson, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 19:44 (eleven years ago)

ten years pass...

R.I.P. Marquis :(

OG Rizzler (morrisp), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 00:28 (one year ago)

oh no!! such an underrated rapper, loved his voice so much

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 00:32 (one year ago)

Both rappers of the 2 Live Crew now dead. :-(

History has treated them oddly (perhaps for good reason) but if you had ears in 1986-88 that initial wave was enormous. There was literally absolutely nothing like it.

Mrs. Ippei (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 02:26 (one year ago)


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