1 year later: did my beautiful dark twisted fantasy deserve to get a 10.0/5 stars/universal music journo plaudits?

voted "I didn't believe it did at the time and I still don't" for the most accurate results but my heart says "fuck you, kanye"

even people who like the album will be hard pressed not to vote 'fuck you, kanye' but no, it's not very good

even people who like the album will be hard pressed not to vote 'fuck you, kanye' but no, it's not very good

Maybe it is more accurate to vote "I didn't believe it did at the time and I still don't" but I went with my heart and voted "fuck you, kanye"

err my grammar is off but you get what I'm saying

i still like this album a lot. probably not "perfect score" but maybe an 8.5?

85% perfect

Yeah, I think it's alright, but nowhere near perfect score material.

Kanye himself deserves a 10, for being Kanye imo

kinda feel like the final world would really be re-doing this poll w/ this album in it: ***RANKING KANYE***

don't think we can push ilx's server software to do all the possible permutations of 5 albums

true, but you could do every variation of 'top 3' and get pretty much the same results

voted "fuck you Kanye" found everything about the lead up to this album so irritating I never bothered to hear the whole thing

Suspect that the acclaim accorded MBDTF (a gross but entertainingly unhinged mess of an album) will destroy Kanye and whatever might otherwise have remained of his career.

okay, half suspect...

It's a fucking horrible record and I said so at the time. Fuck you, Kanye. You used to be good.

It's a fucking horrible record and I said so at the time. Fuck you, Kanye.

I can't imagine feeling the need to ever listen to it again. There's enough decent material to push it into solid six out of ten range but the worst stuff is absolutely intolerable. Thought so at the time, haven't changed my mind.

Terrible terrible record. Shame on everyone who hyped it so much.

i dig it. not perfect but whatever.

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i dig it. not perfect but whatever.

^^ OTM

I mean this shit is. fukken ridiculous.

i haven't heard MBDTF but would vote "fuck me, kanye".

started listening to this album a few months ago, after i heard "super bass" i listened to all her singles and the best was monster so ithought i'd check it out. amazing album, it convinced me to start listening to hiphop again, although it may have spoiled me as obv nothing sounds like this.

i didn't believe it at the time, but i keep coming back to the tracks on it, All of the Lights, Dark Fantasy, Monster, Runaway... esp while driving. so i feel like it deserves it more now than i did then.

started listening to this album a few months ago, after i heard "super bass" i listened to all her singles and the best was monster so ithought i'd check it out. amazing album, it convinced me to start listening to hiphop again, although it may have spoiled me as obv nothing sounds like this.

― marc iv, Sunday, January 29, 2012 7:38 PM (19 minutes ago)

http://i38.tinypic.com/307p7bb.gif

lol

I like this album. I don't listen to it as much as 808 & Graduation, but i like it more than his other two. It's far from a perfect album, obviously, but don't believe the hype etc

lol that gif is cracking me up kev

all the people who said this is a terrible record are criminally insane and overcompensating for their kanye hate

good album, better than graduation and that's about it. has its really inspired moments, also has some crap. solid mid-8s record imo.

I'd probably be wiling to listen to it again if it got remastered, and if they cut the running length in half.

it didn't get "universal" music journo plaudits :)

i have not changed my mind about this thing though in actual fact i have not felt compelled to return to it at all in the past year.

it is definitely not better than graduation, that is the actual insane opinion around here

Grotesque record, albeit interestingly so. Even at this remove those perfect scores look Be Here Now-esque.

Ye Here Now

Just as with Be Here Now the neurotic tendency to overdo even the good ideas is compelling/revolting. As soon I think I'm enjoying a track some elephantine coda comes along to stamp all the joy out of it.

The curate's egg analogy has become misused by critics to mean a mixed bag but this perfectly fits the original definition.

Bishop: "I'm afraid you've got a bad egg, Mr Jones"
Curate: "Oh, no, my Lord, I assure you that parts of it are excellent!"

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prog just doesnt age well

well that settles that!

settled: my beautiful dark twisted fantasy is not a perfect album

well done

it is definitely not better than graduation, that is the actual insane opinion around here

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, January 30, 2012 3:57 AM (17 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

seriously!

^

wish dave cool could give his opinion B-)

Great job music critics. You now have this decade's 3 Years, 5 Months...

...is what I'd be saying if every single Kanye West album didn't get a 10.0/5 stars/universal music journo plaudits.

@op: sure, why not?

it's a very good album, with lots of the kind of stuff those music critics really go apeshit for (weirdness! prog! black guy doing edgy music!) those things haven't changed, + watch the throne wasn't universally-panned-thus-causing-a-complete-retroactive-reevaluation-of-kanye's-entire-discography, so i think safe to say that in the rarified world of where critics give numbers to records, it still is a 10 out of 10. in further ever so slightly ambivalent terms, i think people will continue to rate this as an all-time-classic rap album in a couple decades, when it will still be selling at a respectable pace, thus bolstering its original critical assessment.

now, personally i don't neccesarily think it's a *perfect* record. but then, when i read "10/10!!!!!! OMFG SO PERFECT" i actually i took that to mean "ok, this should be an exceptionally solid album that also pushes lots of critic's buttons, which means i'll probably dig it, a lot, cause i too like weirdness and king crimson samples and rap guys that push sonic boundaries". and this album has not suddenly become sucky on repeated listens by any means. so if i weren't too late i would join the vast herd of 7 who "believed so a year ago and still believe that MBDTF deserved a perfect score"

actually i think watch the throne deserved a perfect score more than mbdtf, but neither was technically perfect. i'd put it at 9.2/9.5 respectively. why not just round up to 10? the 8.5-or-so scores wtt tended to get were lowball imho

Graduation loses a ton of steam around "Everything I Am", which is such a slogfest that it undercuts the actually-not-at-all-bad songs that follow it.