Article Response: Africa Raps

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The Senegal of it.

Tom (Groke), Sunday, 15 September 2002 22:57 (twenty-three years ago)

i can't remember where i read it, but brian eno said there was all kinds of crazy music in africa that no one would ever hear! or something like that. i forget what he said exactly. but i think it was quoted in a review of this album. but, brian eno's kind of silly sometimes.

i was suprised at the, like, accent, kind of. how they make french sound a lot thicker in the throat, kind of. like german or something. that was the first thing i've noticed. i've never actually heard any other french hip-hop, though. so, maybe it's how it all sounds. i saw a thing about french hip-hop fashion in a magazine but that's about it.

and. a lot of tracks were the total basics. a beat and rhymes. like amateurish underground hip-hop from anywhere in the world. but that has its charm, i guess. and there was lots of stuff which went beyond that. like the escrocs track. or the girlchorus on the didier one. and the bizarre political speech samples on the omzo one. and the sen kumpe one too, i guess. and the almost ragga-y djoloff track and the other one that was kind of groovy african pop.

the liner notes were pretty cool. i agree with the thing about that. it's a look at some crazy time and place i never knew existed.

dk, Monday, 16 September 2002 18:39 (twenty-three years ago)


Tom E: it's good to see writing from you, even if the music is horrible.

From my POV, your last para is interesting:

>>> "To many an American listener, happy in the home of hip-hop, there's no problem here: American rap is the real thing and anything else is a charming or laughable imitation. To a listener in Dakar - or Paris or London, for that matter - enjoying hip-hop means negotiating however reluctantly between these clashing reals, listening to the local crews who steal ideas from the Americans and use them to talk about blocks of flats or marabouts or Special Brew or Dakar ambulance drivers stopping to buy cigs instead of taking you to the hospital. And of course hip-hop is a global music because of this tension, because (America) is the secret parenthesised presence in everything that happens nowadays, culture's background noise. Hip-hop is so big, so everywhere now because it's about life on every street, and at the moment life on every street is a life lived in America's shadow".

It seems to me that you're getting at sth big here. One question: is the process very different from eg. Scottish bands trying to sound like Californians? (ie: you are talking about a process of 'cultural translation' - is this generalizable, or specific to hip-hop?)

'Hip-hop is big cos it's about life on every street': this seems to imply that it is relevant to, or explains, or describes, all our lives. Surely you don't think this will hold up?

Are you making a key distinction between 'the street' and elsewhere: eg. 'indoors'? I live indoors, but I go outside too, sometimes. Hip-hop is presumably about some people's lives out there, but not mine.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 18 September 2002 13:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Dire Straits' ON EVERY STREET: Classic or Dud?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 18 September 2002 14:01 (twenty-three years ago)

"about life on every street" is a dumb crappy generalised phrase which I used because I needed to end the article. What I'm getting at is that hip-hop has a global reach at the moment in the way that rock may have been at some point in the past. Hip-hop has its roots in 'the street' in two senses - firstly the block party, i.e. the music takes place/is performed and played literally in the street (and in this sense can be opposed to 'indoors'); secondly the way that an ideal of hip-hop came to be its use as a reflection of 'street life', an index of local concerns, even if those concerns are just being better than the next neighbourhood. I'm not saying that everyone on a street will like hip-hop or find it relevant to them.

I'm also making the point that hip-hop in the US has partially moved away from this basis in the 'street', and a tension in the music is the looking-to-America (which all hip-hop does, I think) balanced against the fact that America doesn't really care about global hip-hop and that American hip-hop is so different now (and has its own divisions and tensions which don't make sense in smaller markets).

I think hip-hop is the most prevalent global music at the moment but I think a version of this tension probably happened with rock. The thing is that the nature of hip-hop - sampling beats to make records - works to make this Americo-centricity even stronger. i.e. a rock band in Senegal could have bought its instruments and it was then up to them to play what they liked. Whereas with hip-hop, both hardware (turntables, studios) and software (beats) often needs to be 'imported'.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 14:11 (twenty-three years ago)

''But I love hearing French rapped - all those elisions and sibilants are a dreamy alternative to hard-consonant English spitting. And when this copmpilation does dip into English-language rapping the flows are frankly muddy, so my lack of comprehension is maybe a blessing. Even if it does position me as just another background-music consumer, a European seeker after the exotic.''

I do feel like that when I'm buying jap psych. and looking at some of the translations of keiji haino lyrics, I'm glad he doesn't sing them in english.

It's a good article, which reminds me of that article on charlamange palestine (both obscure but at least 'africa raps' relates to hip-hop, which we all know abt) that you wrote a long while back but you got (i think) near zero replies to. I would've said something but i was only lurking at the time. that was good too!

note on 102: will it be in four parts again like part one?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 14:36 (twenty-three years ago)

No 102 when it eventually goes up will be ALL AT ONCE! Which is why I need to chase respondents. I have actually taken a day off work this week in order to work on FT!

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 14:40 (twenty-three years ago)

OK you'll the Bjork thing tomorrow morning then.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 14:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Now where have I read that one before...

Jeff W, Wednesday, 18 September 2002 15:33 (twenty-three years ago)

done it tom (what was that Jeff?)! and I just sent it, if you haven't received it email me back and I'll send it again (sent it to yr btconnect addy).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 18:46 (twenty-three years ago)

since Jeff is obv not around lemme tell ya that the prev post was in half hour ago so there. It's 12+ hours early. ain't I a good boy.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 19:41 (twenty-three years ago)

nine years pass...

sure hope syphilus isn't airborne

DiMarceau Fishpower, Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:15 (fourteen years ago)


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