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Sterling stuff.

― Tom (Groke), Sunday, 15 September 2002 22:58 (twenty-three years ago)

my eyes glaze over when people quote nearly all of the lyrics on the album.

― keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 15 September 2002 23:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Probably the closest to what I've written (not showing anyone, at least not yet). Good to see someone (besides Xgau) making a decent fist of summing up the political dimensions of the album - why is this glossed over for S-K and not Springsteen? I agree that power is what the album's about; but I don't think the personal and political can stay separate here, since lack of personal power is the theme the title track sets up and the rest of the album tries to deal with.

― B:Rad (Brad), Monday, 16 September 2002 00:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Good to see someone (besides Xgau) making a decent fist of summing
up the political dimensions of the album - why is this glossed over for S-K and not Springsteen?

Because Springsteen is So Deep and Full of Meaning, Man, whereas everyone knows S-K has its roots in Gen X alt-culture and is therefore apathetic.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 September 2002 14:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Different from the original Cut; tighter and more impactful in the last Par.

― JM, Monday, 16 September 2002 17:15 (twenty-three years ago)

SK are Eminem and SK are The who but Eminem is not The Who. Consider.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 16 September 2002 17:48 (twenty-three years ago)

In what way are SK The Who?

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 16 September 2002 20:55 (twenty-three years ago)

maybe Carrie's unabashed Pete Townshend fandom? (not to mention those mod suits she always wears?)

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 16 September 2002 21:19 (twenty-three years ago)

By that rational is Phantom Planet The Who?

― Yancey (ystrickler), Monday, 16 September 2002 21:23 (twenty-three years ago)

it was an offer, not a rationale. back off.

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 16 September 2002 21:49 (twenty-three years ago)

I explained this sometime. Here, on The Hot Rock:

"Even with all their critical lauds, Sleater-Kinney were a small time group, but even though their sound didn't stray far from riot-grrl territory, they weren't victims of indie-nothing-ventured-nothing-gained-itosis. That was part of their charm, that a smalltime group on a minor label could sing "I'm the queen of rock'n'roll" and mean it. A line, incidentally, which will probably dog Sleater-Kinney for the rest of their career much as Pete Townsend's famous hope in "My Generation." And it's no accident that I mention The Who, because while Sleater-Kinney have been compared to The Stones, it's really the relentless self-reflection of Who's Next that seems to have birthed their sound. The sheer complexity of many of their songs -- two guitars, two voices, incessantly shifting hooks and unconventional rhythms -- also seems to find its closest parallel in Keith Moon's hyperkinetic innovation."

I could probably make a better argument for this now. Carrie vs. Daltry diva FITE!

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 03:44 (twenty-three years ago)

It was a joke. Back off yrself! Ha!

― Yancey (ystrickler), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 13:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Yearning for Carrie: C or D?

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 13:46 (twenty-three years ago)

absolute unabashed CLASSIC

― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 19:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah it is...

― JM, Wednesday, 18 September 2002 13:48 (twenty-three years ago)

this reminds of a thread on ile wherein everyone mooned over carrie b. to which maura offered: "the best explanation yet for the critical slobbering over sleater kinney."

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 14:02 (twenty-three years ago)

What does this Carrie look like?

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 14:22 (twenty-three years ago)

My dreams X 10.

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 14:27 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.angelfire.com/sk/sleaterkinney/images/newsk1krs.gif

that would be her on the right, i believe.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 14:32 (twenty-three years ago)

to which i say: huh?!?!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 14:33 (twenty-three years ago)

goddamn angelfire!!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 14:38 (twenty-three years ago)

The only time I really liked Sleater-Kinney was the first time I heard them, but I haven't managed since. Do the guitars still do neat things?

― Kris (aqueduct), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 16:28 (twenty-three years ago)

oh yes they do. and I liked them before I ever saw what they looked like so >:-p

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 17:27 (twenty-three years ago)

I've seen SK TWICE in the last 48 hours, and talked (very briefly) to all three of them. Carrie does the whole Townshend onstage routine brilliantly (perhaps not as good as he does, or used to, but she hasn't written any goddam rock operas and pretty much every SK album I've heard is better than Who's Next).

Corin told me she's never read anything by Greil Marcus (except the stuff that's about them, I kinda assume).

― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 17:43 (twenty-three years ago)

five months pass...

I just clicked on the FT link and got this:

Please Note :-
You cancelled your login attempt and so have been denied access to the system

Non-members click here to find out what membership can do for you

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 00:02 (twenty-three years ago)

That's odd. it still works for me.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 05:30 (twenty-three years ago)

You need to set up an appointment with Tom, Jody, he would love to sit down with you and explain all the benefits of membership.

(The link just worked for me, too -- but I have noticed that occasional FT glitch w/ other links).

― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 05:50 (twenty-three years ago)

I got a million mean things to say about One Beat, but Sterling does a good job of desribing the good songs and one that I don't like ("faraway") that I don't feel like laying them all out. So despite the fact that I still find that "One Beat Because.." stuff really icky (we just got different writing styles, dude!) this MUST be a good review, because it's the first positive one of One Beat that doesn't make me say "Shut Up Your Stupid."

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 22:00 (twenty-three years ago)

you're

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 22:09 (twenty-three years ago)

heee. At first I was gonna respond with "I'm WHAT?" but then I got what you're saying.

Damn, I need to proof-read.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 22:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Shut up,

your stupid.

― Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 22:13 (twenty-three years ago)

re: Srpingsteen / Sleater-Kinney

keep in mind the boomers still control the major record labels. it'll take years before that changes. perhaps sooner?

― david day (winslow), Thursday, 20 February 2003 04:49 (twenty-three years ago)

real fine article, btw. a little empassioned, but its a good heartfelt record, so, whatryagonnado?

― david day (winslow), Thursday, 20 February 2003 04:50 (twenty-three years ago)

i spend too much time writing/reading about music and not enough listening/playing. fuck this shit. i'm going to bed. and one beat's going on the player.

― shoot, Friday, 21 February 2003 04:35 (twenty-three years ago)

three weeks pass...

S-K is normally the sort of stuff I'd shun these days. Then I heard Combat Rock on the Mojo free CD. Holy shit - it's good!

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 16:51 (twenty-three years ago)

four months pass...

Yearning for Corin: C/D? Am I the only one?

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 1 August 2003 05:41 (twenty-two years ago)

there are others who are similarly afflicted

(it's weird to actually talk about them, though. i mean, they're personalities, but only halfway. i feel violative straying beyond the musical in a way that i wouldn't with, (ok bad example but) say, madonna. maybe the fact that i perceive them as 'normal' in many ways has a lot to do with how much i - we? - like them?)

― certainlynotgabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 1 August 2003 05:51 (twenty-two years ago)

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