We Are The Mods...

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(Inspired by a late night screening of Quadrophenia).

What happens when music stops attacking The Man and its parents, and turns on each other? Is there anything to be gained from an aura of antagonism between different musical styles, is there a contemporary equivalent of the Mods and the Rockers? Or is it just elitist bullshit?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 20:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Easy:

Pop Stars The Rivals

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 20:56 (twenty-three years ago)

I understand that in schools across the UK (and perhaps elsewhere) battle lines are habitually drawn between the nu-metal and house/trance fraternities, with clubkids duffing up moshers with alarming regularity.

There's a paradox here: nu-metal is meant to be masculine and muscular, and yet its fans (in the playground at least) are generally weedy weed-smoking peaceniks; meanwhile, fans of lightweight dribbly housey trancey porridge get punchy at the slightest provocation. It can't be the make-up that does it - as the 'Crasher kid attests - so what is it?

Charlie (Charlie), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 22:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Sure, there are plenty of contemporary equivalents, never more so, and in fact it's still the (retro)Mods vs. the (retro)Rockers. At least around here..(seattle)..but I think that's more of a saturation of fashion victim scenester politics.

I don't know that there is anything to be gained from the antagonism...which is more social than musical. It makes the rockers rock harder and the emo boys go acoustic...if anything I think it makes you examine your context a bit more thoroughly.

RMS, Tuesday, 17 September 2002 22:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Ron, "fashion victim scenester politics."

This all takes place in the Cha-Cha Lounge right? ;)

kinski (kinski), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 22:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Re: UK Schools.

I would argue these problems rarely have anything to do with music. Isn't it very generally just a clichéd class issue though, with nu-metal types representing the snooty middle class, and dance as the more openly aggressive prole. Generalising a huge amount there I agree, please feel free to shoot me down.

There was a similar thing in my day with the goth("ic")/grunge and rave divide.
I loved the way people always wrongly called goth's "gothic's" in my school.

Moving away from the class issue, coudn't it just be that nu-metallers are just seen as easy targets? More insular, possibly more likely to be in small groups, if in one at all, and overall an easier, and more obvious, target for someone wishing to give someone a quick punch to look hard in front of their mates.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 23:13 (twenty-three years ago)

haha, in high school we had 'homeys' (listen to tupac, ginuwine, the prodigy, brandy and madonna) and 'grundgers' (NIN, nirvana, the beatles, oasis, spearhead and daft punk)... in english we did a version of romeo and juliet called 'homeo and juliet' for the class... we (the homey montagues) wore cardboard goatees and said 'omigod'.

minna (minna), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 04:31 (twenty-three years ago)

hip-hop=Prodigy
grunge=Daft Punk

shurely shome mishtake?

Charlie (Charlie), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 05:28 (twenty-three years ago)

i didn't make the rules! teens move in mysterious ways...

there was crossover tho.

minna (minna), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 06:02 (twenty-three years ago)

I think you did make the rules. I think you are the rule maker. Bwahaha!

Charlie (Charlie), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 06:38 (twenty-three years ago)

"fans of lightweight dribbly housey trancey porridge get punchy at the slightest provocation"

My guess this is because all the clubs I have been in have an aggressive atmosphere. I live in a town where there is a lot of racial tension, with lairy, beered-up white 'geezers' regularly picking fights with any differing creed. So the average clubber goes out on the assumption that it is very possible his/her group will become involved in a fracas, hence aggressive tendencies.

Gen (Gen), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 16:41 (twenty-three years ago)

grunge = grundge

shurely shome mishtake?


I once got a letter from someone who wrote it that way too... wierd...

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 17:57 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm totally Ga-Ga for Cha-Cha...Not really. I like that they sell 40's of Lucky though...

RMS, Wednesday, 18 September 2002 21:37 (twenty-three years ago)


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