― Mike Appelstein (mike a), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 01:43 (twenty-three years ago)
Their production always seemed to me to be the result of engineer incompetence rather than intentional rawness, especially on Velvet Hammer.
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 01:50 (twenty-three years ago)
― JC (JC A.), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 02:10 (twenty-three years ago)
... I loved "Travel On, Rider".. I think it was the best record released in 1995 & one of Scrawl's best. "Nature Film" had its moments - but I prefer the original versions to the rereleases. (Especially Charles)
And they're great live... In fact, they totally kick ass live.. Now I wish they would get a new drummer and get out there again.
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 10:31 (twenty-three years ago)
― Andy K (Andy K), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 11:11 (twenty-three years ago)
Wait a minute -- Steve Albini is incompetent?
― Andy K (Andy K), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 11:18 (twenty-three years ago)
Where did you find the CD, lost mine and been looking for another copy for years.
"Why is the keg always empty?"
― H (Heruy), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 12:15 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mike Appelstein (mike a), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 13:50 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mike Appelstein (mike a), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 13:52 (twenty-three years ago)
I started w/ Velvet Hammer, then found Bloodsucker, then paid the major label bux for their latest (last?) 2 albums, then found the other stuff via eBay. I'm partial to Nature Film (esp. their version of "Public Image"!!), though "Clock Song" is a bazillion times better on Bloodsucker. Also, the seemingly requisite duff Scrawl moment (cf. "Story Musgrave" from Travel On, Rider, "Remember That Day" from Velvet Hammer) doesn't really happen on Nature Film.
If Velvet Hammer sounds bad, it's in the mastering, not in the production. Both Bloodsucker and Travel On, Rider sound superb - well, all three do - I love those BIG FUCKING DRUMS! And I liked their simplicity - no flowery prose, no unnecessary motions, just straight-forward honesty. (For the epitome of this, track down their cover of Wire's "Reuters".)
Pertinent info - the Simple Machines Scrawl discography, and the official Scrawl site.
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 17:18 (twenty-three years ago)
― brg30 (brg30), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 21:40 (twenty-three years ago)
The way it's been mixed doesn't really seem to suit the songs. But that's just my opinion. My problem with Albini isn't the sounds he gets, which are fantastic, but what he does with them in the mix.
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 22:26 (twenty-three years ago)
And, yeah, Travel On, Scrawl (the promo EP mentioned above) is cool, both for A) the Nugent medley, and B) a demo of Nature Film's "Everyone I Saw Tonight". And, hey, another CD w/ "Louis L'Amour" on it never hurt no one.
― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 19 September 2002 00:02 (twenty-three years ago)
Anybody know what she's up to now?
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 22 August 2003 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 22 August 2003 16:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 22 August 2003 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)
MarC/DC
― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 22 August 2003 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 22 August 2003 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)
Providence, actually, but you RoXoR for remembering Scarce.
― j.lu (j.lu), Friday, 22 August 2003 17:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― nickn (nickn), Friday, 22 August 2003 21:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― earlnash, Friday, 22 August 2003 21:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― J (Jay), Friday, 22 August 2003 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Friday, 22 August 2003 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)
Found Smallmouth by chance for a buck. Great stuff. (I've heard most of their other albums but had missed this one.)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 December 2007 18:27 (seventeen years ago)
smallmouth features "charles," their fab answer song to kiss' "beth."
i loooooove plus also too for those ragged harmonies that always sound a little bit off, kinda like X's harmonies. fave song from that: "1=1." strange, cool version of "rocky top," too.
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 10 December 2007 18:36 (seventeen years ago)
d'oh, that's he's drunk i'm talking about, not plus also too, though i like that one also too!
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 10 December 2007 18:37 (seventeen years ago)
Classic all the way. Live shows were incredible, He's Drunk flawless, other records very nearly as good, particularly Bloodsucker (although I haven't listened to Travel On Rider in a while). I will be very very happy if I can somehow track down the original (i.e., faster than on Nature Film) version of "11:59."
Only band I can think of that comes close -- and who is really obviously influenced by Scrawl -- is Tizzy, but I think they've broken up.
― Sara Sara Sara, Monday, 10 December 2007 21:07 (seventeen years ago)
Also, the seemingly requisite duff Scrawl moment (cf. "Story Musgrave" from Travel On, Rider, "Remember That Day" from Velvet Hammer)
― Colonel Poo, Monday, 10 December 2007 21:36 (seventeen years ago)
CLASSIC! I thought they kind of "jumped the shark" when they got rid of Carolyn the drummer even if she was ruining their sound
Smallmouth is the peak for me (likes me the Gary Smith production), though I love their cover of "High Roller" which is on Bloodsucker (AMG editors reading: this track is obv not written by Marcy & Sue), which I don't really like too much otherwise.
I am not really seeing where their acute industry damage is exactly (c.f. the whole "Bloodsucker" trip), especially as compared to nearly anyone else (other artists/people/entities) affected by the Rough Trade bankruptcy (and plus also too: RT paid for that albini session anyway).
Great people, great records. Classic.
― Saxby D. Elder, Monday, 10 December 2007 21:55 (seventeen years ago)
oh yeah, they did a version of "Stranglehold" too which was wicked.
― Saxby D. Elder, Monday, 10 December 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago)
I remember feeling sort of so-so about Velvet Hammer -- like it was a little samey, I think.
I haven't listened to it in at least two years. I should give it another chance.
― babyalive, Monday, 10 December 2007 23:05 (seventeen years ago)
Story Musgrave one of my all-time faves, along with "Please Have Everything," the way Marcy's voice shakes kills me. Last I heard she was running a bar in Columbus? Is this true? Is she still doing music? Someone should force her to record an album of country covers, an album of punk standards, a collection of new material, and whatever else we can coax out of her...
― smurfherder, Monday, 10 December 2007 23:56 (seventeen years ago)
so classic, I was fortunate enough to see them live a few times. the last time ('97 maybe?) they did a heartstopping drumless version of "Love's Insecticide". I really need to track down those major label records.
― sleeve, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 00:07 (seventeen years ago)
I will be very very happy if I can somehow track down the original (i.e., faster than on Nature Film) version of "11:59."
i have the working holiday cd comp this is on - will post later on
― electricsound, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 00:16 (seventeen years ago)
Smallmouth is the peak for me
me too, "enough" & "hymn" are faves.
― zappi, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 00:24 (seventeen years ago)
<i>WTFLOL Story Musgrave is my favourite song on that album!</i>
WTFLOL I totally forgot I wrote that! (I'm a cock.) Coincidentally, I was just listening to <i>Travel On, Rider</i> today. If I could take it back, I'd call "Hunting Me Down" the album's low point, & even if "Story Musgrave" doesn't do much for me, I love the album (& the group) to pieces. <em>Velvet Hammer</em> is still my fave, if only because Mays sounds so raw & fierce on it throughout. Was lucky enough to see them live in Boston (the Middle East) right after Elektra dropped them. Amazon.com used CD sellers have both their Elektra discs up for sale - you can snag both for about $2, it looks like (not including shipping). Sue Harshe has a MySpace page w/ some solo tracks on it - Google for it!
― David R., Tuesday, 11 December 2007 02:37 (seventeen years ago)
scrawl were great. i really like "travel on, rider" and "velvet hammer".. haven't heard the first two records unfortunately! afghan whigs + marcy mays did a nice cover of "will you love me tomorrow"
― daria-g, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 03:43 (seventeen years ago)
11:59 it's january - working holiday version
http://download.yousendit.com/B1BF8CB908416879
― electricsound, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 08:15 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDBRko1CBGw
ohiofan1989 (2 weeks ago) Oh yah, whenever I would run sound for SCRAWL I would get yelled at if I added any effects to the mix. The lead singer would always tell me, "RAW...WE WANT IT TO SOUND RAW! TURN THAT F*CKING DELAY OFF!!!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp5ujt7rOZc
evilwatchme (5 months ago) Nice, I just wish that they played a song that I knew. Like Take a Swing.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 08:38 (seventeen years ago)
everyone else is reuniting, why not scrawl
― mookieproof, Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:02 (thirteen years ago)
can't get $40 a seat
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:05 (thirteen years ago)
nah
― mookieproof, Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:15 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NipJicxVI6o
played less than a year ago!
― da croupier, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:08 (thirteen years ago)
Was she? I liked how she pushed the beat. Her replacement was good, but the music seemed to lose some of its tension.
― Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 4 February 2012 06:02 (thirteen years ago)
I do remember them being splendid live, caught em at least 3x.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 4 February 2012 06:52 (thirteen years ago)
Nearly posted (roughly) the same thing I said nine years ago.
If you don't have the patience to dig out your 45s, Spotify has a bonus-tracks version of Bloodsucker with the Singles Only 7", both sides of "Your Mother Wants to Know," and the cover of Wire's "Reuters" (all excellent).
― Andy K, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:31 (thirteen years ago)
dulli listened to me
― mookieproof, Saturday, 25 February 2012 02:12 (thirteen years ago)
London tonight! Anyone else going?
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:00 (twelve years ago)
Classic. So glad I saw them at ATP NY this fall.
― Maria Tesla Pizzeria, Thursday, 29 November 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago)
Big piece on Scrawl:http://atlengthmag.com/music/scrawl-punk-rock-for-grown-ups-a-retrospective/
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 16:16 (ten years ago)
great piece, thanks
― sleeve, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 16:37 (ten years ago)
Liked xgau's 80s comments on them, archived on his site. Also, Ft. Shame, Sue Harshe's band w guitarist-songwriter Todd May (who also plays w Lydia Loveless), is subtly alluring, in a layered, Central Ohio winter's night way.
― dow, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 17:59 (ten years ago)
thanks for posting that article! such an underrated band
― da croupier, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 18:08 (ten years ago)
thanks, also, really enjoyed that article. Sent me back to re-listening to Travel On, Rider, and Velvet Hammer, which has made this day much much better.
― pauls00, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 20:07 (ten years ago)
I somehow fell off the Scrawl train after Smallmouth (great record, and I wish my tour shirt still fit!) Looks like I should pick up their 90s output.
― Deliciously hard yet very accessible (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 20:18 (ten years ago)
They were great live when I saw them way back when. I too lost track of them later and need to check that stuff out
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 20:26 (ten years ago)
last 3 albums are solid for sure
― sleeve, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 20:39 (ten years ago)
Definitely. All killer, no filler.
It's a shame they're so underrated, especially for how insanely influential they were.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 20:54 (ten years ago)
How were they influential? I hope you are correct. Which bands are citing them? They seem like a critics/music nerd fave to me, but not sure how that translates into influence
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 15:50 (ten years ago)
First time I heard Sleater-Kinney (among others) it seemed obvious they were Scrawl fans. I don't know if they actually were, but that's how I hear/heard them.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 5 November 2014 15:54 (ten years ago)
Listened to "11:59 It's January" last night. Could go for a best of Scrawl playlist.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 1 January 2017 15:51 (eight years ago)
Five songs on the hard-drive, love them all: "Charles," "Enough," "I Need You," "See," and "Tell Me Now, Boy."
― clemenza, Sunday, 1 January 2017 15:59 (eight years ago)
I listened to them a ton this last year. Favorites: "Charles" (1990 and 1998 versions both essential), "Remember That Day," "Hymn."
― geoffreyess, Sunday, 1 January 2017 17:24 (eight years ago)
It was a good year because it was such a bad year that this year could only be better
"11:59 It's January" is perfect.
― doug watson, Sunday, 1 January 2017 18:31 (eight years ago)
there oughta be some kind of prizeif one of us survives
― swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 05:36 (four years ago)
https://www.matternews.org/culture/music/scrawl-continues-to-keep-the-drama-to-a-minimum
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 29 September 2023 22:47 (two years ago)
Heard about that Columbus show ( but alas my relatives there who I was encouraging to attend had a conflict and didn’t make it)
― curmudgeon, Monday, 2 October 2023 14:38 (two years ago)
was just thinking "wow I loved the solo show I saw Marcy Mays do" and scrolled up to see that I posted about that 20 years ago, which means that show was like...30 years ago. WTF.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 2 October 2023 20:02 (two years ago)
Have driven three hours to see them on their home turf and would (with more notice) do it again.
(A full-throated "You make me wanna wring your neck" is kinda dramatic, imo.)
― Andy K, Monday, 2 October 2023 22:44 (two years ago)
why on earth was "The Day She Was Thru With Punk Rock" removed from the Travel On, Rider album right before release? along with one other song.
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 12 November 2023 16:04 (one year ago)