― R "P" C, Monday, 7 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
As for myself, I like MHTRTC. It's background music, but it's lovely background music all the same. My only consistent complaint with BoC is how analog and cheesy they occasionaly get. Like the last two tracks of the new ep. But at the same time "Bishop Amo Roden" redeems the whole thing. So...a "Classic", with reservations. But still not "where all art should be focusing at the moment."
― Toby, Monday, 7 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― Stevie Nixed, Monday, 7 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
BoC are at their most interesting to me when they move away from the two formulae I mentioned at the start of this thread. "Chinook", "Rodox Video", "June 9th", "Skipping Stones, "Red Moss" are all excellent - I think BoC Maxima is their best album; too much of MHTRTC is overtly unobtrusive and quiet as you say. Also, "M9", which makes all Parr comparisons redundant.
When they go "analog and cheesy" it's curiously endearing because I really don't like what they're copying at all - I like "Iced Cooly" better than any Roger Limb track I've ever heard. There's something in that faded-brown-to-gold process, I think.
― fernando, Monday, 7 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― fred solinger, Monday, 7 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
boards of canada are really good. i'd say classic, for distilling the one ambient track that's on every idm album and basing a career around it. that's usually the best song anyway.
― ethan, Monday, 7 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
Fred: I'm not embarrassed with the phrase "on the money", it's just that the Pinefox has turned it into something of a cliche round here and made it hard to use without a moment's tongue in cheek.
― Josh, Monday, 7 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― dog latin, Monday, 7 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― Patrick, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― Sterling Clover, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― Omar, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
'music has the right' took a while for me to love. much of it is classic but there are some boring parts. roygbiv is, of course, the highlight.
the best thing though is probably happy cycling on the peel session (is this on the US version of 'music has...'?)
i disagree about plone though, fernando. i think plone work when they are overly twee and fisher-price like, but too often (on the patchy album) they try and sound darker, or more ambivalent, or go the cod- morricone way, and it doesn't work.
Boc have done some beautiful songs (the last single was wonderful too), and i think its a bit of a shame that they often get categorised as 'smokers music' (which is pretty harsh criticism)
― gareth, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― Dr. C, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― K-reg, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
I'd have agreed with you about Plone once, Gareth, but now I find those tracks *unlistenably* twee; I can't get more than a minute into "Marbles" without choking, and don't get me started on "Bibi Plone". Conversely, "Busy Working", "The Greek Alphabet" and "Top And Low Rent" sound better to me than they ever did.
K-reg hits the nail on the head, as often, I think.
― Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― gareth, Wednesday, 9 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― Josh, Wednesday, 9 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― Vespucci, Wednesday, 9 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
elliot
― elliot, Saturday, 12 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― Johnathan, Sunday, 13 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― gareth, Monday, 14 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
What better comparison point for a band who call a track "M9"?
― Robin Carmody, Monday, 14 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Saturday, 8 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― matthew m., Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
and into a world where synthesizers coexist with hundred-year-old willow trees.
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love this. Also the term 'soccer children' = beautiful, somehow very BoC. Ah well, that used to be me ;)
― Omar, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Billy Dods, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Since one of my earlier threads seems to have been resuscitated, I'll just add that I probably rate BoC higher in terms of *magic realism* than I ever have. I can sort of see where Billy's coming from with the ISB comparison, as well: if you're looking for the halfway point, Bill, I'm waiting with a C90 of "The Fourth Dimension" ...
― Robin Carmody, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 12 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― DeRayMi, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 21 August 2003 01:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 21 August 2003 02:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 21 August 2003 02:24 (twenty-two years ago)
The 70's BBC children's television series, The Changes, is anindisputable influence for MHTRC. Robin Carmody is well aware. His BBC Radiophonic Workshop essay is outstanding.
IABP and Geogaddi are minor shifts in the BoC sound. The whole David Koresh theme is creepy, but I love it.
I say they're ace, hands-down, CLASSIC. They make beautiful textures, tones, and melodies with very few synths and outdated samplers and that is no simple feat!
Any ILXors ever been to the Pentland Hills area or met the BoC or any of the music70 collective?
― Cub, Thursday, 21 August 2003 04:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 21 August 2003 04:32 (twenty-two years ago)
Boards of Canada = Near Classic; depends on what they do next.
― christoff (christoff), Thursday, 21 August 2003 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)
re: the "british sound" as mentioned above: stirmonster (v. occasional glaswegan ILM poster) once mentioned elsewhere [heavy paraphrase ahead] that he found the prettiness of BoC's music a sharp contrast to the dreadful starkness of the north coast of scotland.
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 21 August 2003 16:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Thursday, 21 August 2003 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)
Not in the north of Scotland though, just next to Edinburgh. The Pale Saints recorded some of their records near there.
― Keith Watson (kmw), Thursday, 21 August 2003 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 21 August 2003 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)
anyhow, classic, "geogaddi" included.
― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 21 August 2003 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)
in some ways i think much of their back catalogue is a bit tainted by the beats. as in, they seem unnecessarily leaden. they certainly date the records to a particular time period (its less apparent on geogaddi i guess). i like pretty much everything still, but the beats detract for me, or, at least, are the worst parts of most of their stuff
― charltonlido (gareth), Sunday, 10 April 2005 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― jermaine (jnoble), Sunday, 10 April 2005 09:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 10 April 2005 10:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― stevo (stevo), Sunday, 10 April 2005 10:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 10 April 2005 10:43 (twenty-one years ago)
What's that v MENA-region sounding instrument at the start of Prophecy..? wouldn't have minded a bit more of that on the album.
― nashwan, Monday, 8 June 2026 18:01 (one week ago)
Maybe Armenian duduk? As already pointed out, several hints of Dead Can Dance all over the record
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 8 June 2026 19:12 (one week ago)
Thanks I'll investigate. (Not so) funnily enough did also go on a big Dead Can Dance dive last week.
― nashwan, Monday, 8 June 2026 20:21 (one week ago)
still pretty much a daily listen for me - "hasn't left the CD player" lol (not a lot of competition for CD player access right now)
saw some reddit speculation today that the LP works as a prequel to Tomorrow's Harvest and that tickled the part of me that loves mapping loose narrative vibes onto BoC albums - that Inferno is like an end of civilisation vibe and TH is a bleak & largely post-human vibe (eg the relative lack of vocal samples on TH)
not trying to find a definitive reading ofc but this kind of speculation is part of the vibe for me (and totally encouraged by the bros if I correctly remember some of the interviews they gave around TH)
― Cod:Shellfish (emsworth), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 00:53 (one week ago)
This is absolutely how I had both of those albums now. Inferno is the Destruction stage of civilization and Tomorrow's Harvest is the Desolation.
Someone on Reddit tried tying the other albums to the other stages but I definitely buy that thematic connection with the last two.
That discussion totally introduced me to these amazing Thomas Cole paintings that capture the stages:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Course_of_Empire_(paintings)
― octobeard, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 01:00 (one week ago)
Had->hear
Phone autocomplete is absolutely immolating my posts lately
― octobeard, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 01:02 (one week ago)
feel I should apologise for overuse of the word "vibe" but honestly not really sorry
― Cod:Shellfish (emsworth), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 01:09 (one week ago)
Was alone in the gym and his morning apart from my PT, who’s the same age as me and open to musical choices, so I stuck Inferno on. The embryo one sounded JUST like Snivilisation in that context.― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 8 June 2026 13:13 (two days ago)
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 8 June 2026 13:13 (two days ago)
Snivilisation is a useful comparator: it would seem churlish to complain about "Father and Son" but then give "Philosophy by Numbers" a free pass.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 05:16 (one week ago)
BoC blocks McCartney from #1 on the UK album charts: https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2026/06/09/paul-mccartney-blocked-from-his-first-no-1-on-one-chart/
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 06:18 (one week ago)
horrible AI text in that article, c'mon Forbes
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 07:16 (one week ago)
That’s horrific AI bullshit
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 09:47 (one week ago)
Enjoyed the ixi reaction vid and good for her dropping it on June 9th
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jduXn4yeM8k
― nashwan, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 10:22 (one week ago)
xp yikes, i'm going to use that as my example next time someone tries to convince me AI writing is good
― rameau in the main room (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 11:36 (one week ago)
The other day on the trolley I overheard a child say "in 4000 years it will be 6026" which felt like encountering a BoC sample IRL
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 13:34 (one week ago)
Nice
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 13:35 (one week ago)
I got the sense she didn't like Deep Time? just passed on in silence to the next track. this is important to me, Deep Time #1 superfan
― disco stabbing horror (lukas), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 15:19 (one week ago)
xxp did the child have all-white eyes
― disco stabbing horror (lukas), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 15:20 (one week ago)
ixi the piano lady (and Nine Inch Nails fan) has a listen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jduXn4yeM8k
― StanM, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 15:23 (one week ago)
oh crap - sorry. I just see a tiny icon on my phone instead of YouTube thumbnails
― StanM, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 15:24 (one week ago)
xp I think this is because she already did a full analysis of Deep Time in a separate vid when it was released as Tape 05also lol
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 15:27 (one week ago)
thanks, I'm glad I asked!
― disco stabbing horror (lukas), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 15:39 (one week ago)
She’s so awesome
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 16:17 (one week ago)
I was waiting for ixi's video!!! nice
― octobeard, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 18:10 (one week ago)
The Process is hitting hard: a soundtrack of societal collapse while a malfunctioning AI voice babbles nonsense, then fades into some of their prettiest music ever
― The Immortal Bird of Avon (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 11 June 2026 17:30 (six days ago)
Yeah - I somewhat interpret that as death. And You Retreat In Time and Space which follows is the journey to the afterlife.
― octobeard, Friday, 12 June 2026 02:16 (five days ago)
It kinda opens with this beautiful shimmering music that reminds me of the end of Fantasia with Ave Maria, that's like the ascent or transition and then the gates open and off you go!
― octobeard, Friday, 12 June 2026 02:17 (five days ago)
I watch a lot of this guy's videos. Wasn't anticipating a big Inferno analysis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=659pj7itNVM
― whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Friday, 12 June 2026 02:46 (five days ago)
yeah those last three tracks are incredible - the way the process ends with that sad little piano reprise of Arena Americanada like a rueful lament for a society that fucked itself - then You Retreat feels almost like a statement on their own body of work? like, “here’s a soothing quintessential BoC track for you, it evokes old old kids tv and nature docos and all that, if you want or need something soothing while the world burns to a crisp and civilisation collapses then here you go” - and then Platonia somehow manages to take you somewhere strange and new, for some reason the bell in that track just sends me
― Cod:Shellfish (emsworth), Friday, 12 June 2026 03:01 (five days ago)
xp
Moodles that vid is great but damn he only did like the first half of the album! I was excited for him to dive into Blood in the Labyrinth and Arena Americanada. Oof
― octobeard, Friday, 12 June 2026 03:41 (five days ago)
Maybe there will be a part 2
― whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Friday, 12 June 2026 03:45 (five days ago)
Want to listen to this - especially the BoC/Shamen/Books mashup - but subscribe to Apple Music? no https://music.apple.com/us/album/early-hours-dj-mix/6772230636
― disco stabbing horror (lukas), Monday, 15 June 2026 19:52 (two days ago)
All Reason Departs in my head all day today. Absolutely the album highlight for me.
― nashwan, Monday, 15 June 2026 19:56 (two days ago)
kind of obsessed with the guardian reviewer who complained about the drum programming on this record, perhaps one of the worst takes ever?
― Cod:Shellfish (emsworth), Monday, 15 June 2026 20:05 (two days ago)
Sure looks like it. Multiple factual errors in it too. Reminds me of some old school Pitchfork reviews that tried to be edgy and extremely panned some albums like Tool's Lateralus and NIN's The Fragile that ended up aging extremely well (both of those reviews have been scrubbed)
― octobeard, Monday, 15 June 2026 20:19 (two days ago)
Clarification: the albums aged well, the reviews most definitely did not.
― octobeard, Monday, 15 June 2026 20:20 (two days ago)
Wait they really took the reviews down? Why not leave them up and get the views from people bringing them up to dunk on them? (plus integrity etc)
― disco stabbing horror (lukas), Monday, 15 June 2026 20:47 (two days ago)
Somewhere Right Now In The Future Somebody Is Scrubbing The Reviews That Did Not Age Well
― scanner darkly, Monday, 15 June 2026 20:59 (two days ago)
The Guardian review is so wrong I wonder if the guy even listened to it
― rameau in the main room (dog latin), Monday, 15 June 2026 21:08 (two days ago)
Some of those reviews were outright embarrassing. I guess when they started becoming more respected as tastemakers they scrubbed the archives. The Tool review is actually still up ! Famously rated it a 1.9. The Fragile was like 2.0 or something. They reassessed it as 8.7
I actually think both reviews are still up so maybe they unscrubbed!
― octobeard, Monday, 15 June 2026 21:28 (two days ago)
xp it came the day after the listening sessions so the they basically heard it once and reviewed off of memory. An already flawed situation
― octobeard, Monday, 15 June 2026 21:29 (two days ago)
You Retreat is the one I keep returning to - the gorgeous hymn like beginning, the guitar & bass come in like they are from a Daft Punk RAM era track with classic BoC keyboard runs over the top, ah it's magic really. also interested in the sound right at the end of the album, like an electronic scanner maybe? (tying back to the idea of scanning for other civilizations on the 1420MHz frequency at the start of the album?)
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 15 June 2026 21:38 (two days ago)
The drum sounds are ok but I was yearning for more interesting beats on this record after the first couple of plays.
― nashwan, Monday, 15 June 2026 21:39 (two days ago)
But would they be Boards of Canada without those slow plodding beats that have that mechanical shuffling quality? - that feels like it's integral to their sound
― Dan S, Monday, 15 June 2026 22:17 (two days ago)
imo Geogaddi was a little more interesting rhythmically
― nashwan, Monday, 15 June 2026 22:26 (two days ago)
I just listened to Geogaddi this weekend and in many ways it’s Inferno with fewer hooks
― Whatwhawhawhaehawhahwawhawwww (DJP), Monday, 15 June 2026 22:28 (two days ago)
this album strikes me as the societal collapse prequel to the post-apocalypse that f Tomorrow’s Harvest
― The Immortal Bird of Avon (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 15 June 2026 22:33 (two days ago)
feel like Inferno is not only rhythmically cool but has a dizzying amount of rhythmic and textural detail buried in the mix, little spectral drum parts like the degraded-to-the-point-of-near-imperceptibility pattern overlaid in Father and Son
― Cod:Shellfish (emsworth), Monday, 15 June 2026 23:43 (two days ago)
xp The Tomorrow's Harvest album cover features a hazy blurred view of the SF skyline from the Alameda Naval Air Station. Marcus Eoin referred to it as "an ingredient of the theme on this record" and added, "if you look again at the San Francisco skyline on the cover, it's actually a ghost of the city. You're looking straight through it."
That album does feel somewhat post-apocalyptic, but so do all of their other albums. That inscrutable enigmatic quality is what I love most about them
― Dan S, Tuesday, 16 June 2026 00:11 (yesterday)
yeah one reason this album rewards repeated plays is there’s a lot of musical and rhythmic layers in it
― The Immortal Bird of Avon (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 16 June 2026 00:19 (yesterday)