INCOMING- Horsepower album

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all the tracks are available to be sampled at

http://www.hyperdub.com/kolony/tempa.cfm

for the uninitiated...
feel

1. Gorgon Sound-classic
2. Classic Deluxe-future classic
3. Fat Larry's Skank-the return of Fat Larry

geeg, Wednesday, 18 September 2002 17:38 (twenty-three years ago)

HOMINA HOMINA HOMINA

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 18:59 (twenty-three years ago)

although this does somewhat confirm my "hyberdub" = "the angel's fell" = uh oh where next? feeling...

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 19:06 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm VERY excited about this album :)

ryan, Wednesday, 18 September 2002 21:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Jess, check out the "Pimp Flavours" sample for where next => Oh No! Source Direct! OH NO!

If this album doesn't come out on CD I will seriously cry.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 22:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually "Pimp Flavours" is more like Source Direct remixing Size & Die's "11.55" - which is maybe an even bigger compliment.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 22:46 (twenty-three years ago)

It sez CD on the webpage, Tim !

CD Track Listing

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 22:53 (twenty-three years ago)

when does this drop exactly?! And are there any key tracks missing?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 September 2002 06:38 (twenty-three years ago)

"when does this drop exactly?!"

Not certain other than in October.

"And are there any key tracks missing?"

Well it doesn't have the tracks HP did for Turn-U-On (the sublabel Nico of No-U-Turn of jungle fame started), of which the most U&K that I've heard is "One You Need" - an absolutely swoonworthy vocal track that's up there with the Zed Bias remix of 2 Banks Of 4's "Hook & A Line".

Nor does it have all of the early Tempa tracks - "Let's Dance"/"When You Hold Me", "Triple 7", "Vigilante" etc. But it's as comprehensive as you could realistically wish for, and the really crucial Tempa tracks (ie. "Gorgon Sound" and "Fists Of Fury") are present. Since they've gotten better as they've gone along, I think leaving space for new tracks was fairly prudent. Tracks like "Pimp Flavours", "Classic Deluxe" and "Django's Revenge" cast long shadows over most of their earlier work. Apart from "One You Need" I can't think of a track the album should have gone out of its way to include.

Hey, did anyone check out the Junior Boys tracks that Hyperdub have up? I wrote about one on Skykicking - I'm surprised they haven't been mentioned at all. Fantastic stuff.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 19 September 2002 11:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Tim...

big up the junior boys reference...

anyone who wants a free demo should send their address to

juniorboys_ca@hotmail.com

geeg, Thursday, 19 September 2002 16:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Tim, thanks for the info. Now I can be properly excited.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 20 September 2002 01:26 (twenty-three years ago)

what abt the turn u on releases?

bob zemko (bob), Friday, 20 September 2002 09:17 (twenty-three years ago)

it's still a little, i dunno, polite for me

bob zemko (bob), Friday, 20 September 2002 09:24 (twenty-three years ago)

three weeks pass...
I really hoped this was about the new phantastic 16 Horsepower album Folklore...

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Monday, 14 October 2002 12:38 (twenty-three years ago)

out today, isn't it? see:
http://www.juno.co.uk/garage.htm

looking forward to getting it - might have to make a trek to Breakbeat Science later...

Paul (scifisoul), Monday, 14 October 2002 16:58 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
just heard "Golden Nugget" on the Femme Fatale show. I liked it more than anything on their album. There's something rock-n-roll about it... maybe a 'live' bass or something.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 01:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Haven't heard it but Femme rockin' it is a good sign. The other recent track I heard from them was deathly dull, like a dubstep equivalent of all the bad "Piper" knock-offs floating around in '98.

But I might be in the minority for thinking Horsepower were best when they sounded like a more spectral version of proper girly 2-step (leaving "One You Need" off the album was a crime!)

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 02:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Tim, I *highly* recommend the show this week. Highlight tracks:

Footsie And D Double E - War Wid
Fingers – Glue
Danny C – What Goes Around
J Sweet – Gutter (Alias Remix) - unbelievable
Horsepower – Golden Nugget

and all the Agent X stuff (also, see the Deuce mag Agent X mix cd)


Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 02:16 (twenty-two years ago)

also, the Horsepower track is making me think UKG+Death In Vegas

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 02:21 (twenty-two years ago)

oh god this is going to make me cry

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 02:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, there's something very dense about the sound, as if they're directly addressing the criticisms of their last record as being too spare.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 02:23 (twenty-two years ago)

that dubstep all-stars thing was one of those nadirs-you-experience-as-they're-happening things on par with wormhole.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

But I might be in the minority for thinking Horsepower were best when they sounded like a more spectral version of proper girly 2-step

the idea i had of their sound from a few snippets was probably along these lines. and it was exciting. when i heard the album the 'rude' angle of cult kungfu/crime movie samples and dub smokiness didn't really coalesce right. i like 'fists of fury' but it's ;less bruce lee fists, more like fluorescent daggers that works with me. "more rock n roll" is making me think about 2-step t. raumschmiere now.....

scissors (Honda), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 03:30 (twenty-two years ago)

wait, wait danny c as in the dnb producer? is he making garage now or something?

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 03:32 (twenty-two years ago)

two different people. UKG danny c is from Aim Studios, a Jameson affiliate.

ps: www.hyperdub.com/softwar/totherescue.cfm

martin (martin), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)

god, that's a bit depressing. metalheadz 96 ---> horsepower 04 ---> the cycle just keeps on going.

also, he is SO wrong about them not using MCs with how staid their drum programming has gotten (bass sounds have gone to shit too).

sigh. in any event, i'll reserve judgment until i hear the album. the first one is still one of my 5-10 fave electronic dance lps ever.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm not wrong. there arent many MCs whose lyrical content would fit dubstep.

what's the point of Kano going "i fuck skets" or Footsie going "you don't wanna war with..." over Horsepower's beats? their sentiments bare no relation to each other.

martin (martin), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 16:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Plus, Horsepower is also all about the samples...

JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:13 (twenty-two years ago)

MCing ! = grime MCing, necessarily!

haha sorry martin, i'll read more carefully next time. i thought benny himself had said that about the MC thing.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

frankly i'm confused about most of your posts mate.

do you like horsepower? grime MCs? Metalheadz 96?

martin (martin), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 18:23 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
okay for whatever reason i dug out "in fine style" again, and yeah, it's still really good.

did anything post-in fine style ever come close to the majesty of "fat larry's skank"?

should i NOT buy dubstep allstars volumes 1+2? i sort of like the cover art, and also the DJs names. "hatcha". "youngsta". sounds fun.

still allergic to this stuff, jess?

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:48 (twenty years ago)

TIM? JESS? I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE ON ILM RIGHT NOW!!

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:45 (twenty years ago)

Do NOT buy Dubstep Allstars. You can get the Skream and DMZ and Kode9 12s if you like.

phantasy bear (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:52 (twenty years ago)

oh shit - i didn't realize phantasy bear wuz nordicRZA!

ok, why not? and is that re: vol 1 or 2?

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:55 (twenty years ago)

just listen to midnight request line (skream). maybe thats stupid cos of course youve heard it. i dunno.

ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:56 (twenty years ago)

and is that re: vol 1 or 2?

Because like everyone says, they're boring. Vol 2 is a bit better but you should hear "Sholay", that's good.

But what ambrose said.

phantasy bear (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:59 (twenty years ago)

haha i am on my way home

BUT

nothing horsepower did afterwards was very interesting/good. there were a few tracks on to the rescue that were good, but it was a lot more leaden/less frisky/less feminine. (plus that 12 minute long tribal breaks thing, wtf?! heh, actually you'd probably love that vahid...it reminds me of the photek track from headz ii.)

i am much more fond of 2005-2006 dubstep than 2003-2004 dubstep. things have gotten much beefier/heavier in the last 18 months or so.

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:04 (twenty years ago)

Is Photek widely recognized as a dubstep progenitor or is it just people on this board that think that way?

phantasy bear (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:06 (twenty years ago)

i am much more fond of 2005-2006 dubstep than 2003-2004 dubstep. things have gotten much beefier/heavier in the last 18 months or so.

yeah, and grime 2 >>>> grime 1!!!

so i was wondering, maybe dj youngsta's set is worth picking up?

sad to hear about dj hatcha's set being no good. =(

i really liked the cover art.

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:07 (twenty years ago)

"yeah, and grime 2 >>>> grime 1!!!"

I can't remember the last time I listened to either one. :(

I am excited about the prospect of a Skream album this summer (although I hope that there will be MCs on it somewhere.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:10 (twenty years ago)

anybody heard dj maxximus' bass the world mix for mental groove?

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:11 (twenty years ago)

Yeah I bought it. It's good. I need to spend some more time with it. The similarly imagined Shadetek mix sounds like it may be even better.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:15 (twenty years ago)

adam that photek track i was talking about is a bazillion minute long tribal breaks/house thing, not his usual shtick. 's good.

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:43 (twenty years ago)

There is a Photek track on Headz II? Oh there is! Under the name Special Forces. I don't recall it all (which I guess isn't shocking since I listened to that record all the way through maybe once.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 26 January 2006 01:00 (twenty years ago)

FOUR DISCS! WTF were they thinking?!?!?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 26 January 2006 01:00 (twenty years ago)

more cushion for the pushin

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 January 2006 01:01 (twenty years ago)

james 1ave11e deliberating on the tracklist

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 01:20 (twenty years ago)

wow, these dubstep allstars comps DO really stink!

whose idea was it to slow the tempo to almost nil? i thought the label was called "tempa"??

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:20 (twenty years ago)

this is the slowest "dance" music i've ever heard.

actually, this stuff makes me think of an imaginary project where the cream of nu skool breaks producers (rennie pilgrim, tipper, freq nasty, adam freeland, rotters club) are brought in to remix mo'wax's NEW THING dancehall rhythm comp.

except this is not a dream, it's a dystopian nightmare and the results are TERRIBLE!!

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:25 (twenty years ago)


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