"Since bassist Tom Araya shrieks out ritualistic Marvel Comics descriptions of a hell you're not even satisfied (as you are with Roky Erickson, say) he himself believes in, his band's misanthropic strangulation and asphyxiation sneers come across as just one more bullshit occult cop-out."
I've never heard Reign in Blood but I know it's usually considered by metalheads to be a great album. Eddy ranks it as the #472nd best metal album of all time.
Can anyone tell me what in hell he's talking about with this sentence?
― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 22:32 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 22:33 (twenty-three years ago)
http://www.metal-sludge.com/ExposedSlayer3.jpg
Further amusement here.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 September 2002 01:10 (twenty-three years ago)
Chucks comment is pretty much a standard attitude from the "old" hard rock/heavy metal crowd who grew up with the blues-based approach to "heavy rock" (the Led Zeppelin-Sabbath-Priest-Maiden school) and missed the train when metal ditched the rock 'n roll, more romanticist natured 'classic metal' and took the spirit of DRI/Minor Threat/etc to go down a deconstructivist path instead: chromatic scales, a more percussive nature, the use of vocals as an (again, mostly percussive) instrument rather than melodic high-region acrobatics.
I would say that "Reign In Blood" is the pivotal point for this - it marries the elements from the older speed metal generation (the vocals, some riffs and melodies, the 'groove' in the rhythm section, the general catchiness of the songs) which made it palatable enough to be liked by a wide audience, with the hints of things that were to to come: the out-of-control solos, the nihilistic nature of lyrics and music, the chromatic riffing, the dense riff textures, the structuralism.
― Siegbran Hetteson (eofor), Thursday, 19 September 2002 07:26 (twenty-three years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 19 September 2002 08:12 (twenty-three years ago)
― Siegbran Hetteson (eofor), Thursday, 19 September 2002 09:53 (twenty-three years ago)
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 19 September 2002 12:33 (twenty-three years ago)
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 19 September 2002 12:59 (twenty-three years ago)
The lyrics to "Reign In Blood" work best when they take a descriptive form ("Angel Of Death") rather than outspoken opinion ("Jesus Saves"). Perhaps this is what Chuck criticizes, that they didn't take it to the logical extreme of writing *all* the lyrics from the point of cold observation. I haven't read Chuck Eddy's book, from what I've heard it mostly focuses on the older hard rock/heavy metal styles circa 1970-1985 which I'm not that big a fan of...but I think I should get my hands on it someday.
― Siegbran Hetteson (eofor), Thursday, 19 September 2002 13:18 (twenty-three years ago)
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 19 September 2002 13:25 (twenty-three years ago)
It seems weird that Chuck Eddy would be complaining about something like this, is what I'm saying. He doesn't strike me as somebody overly concerned w/ an artist's true beliefs.
― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 19 September 2002 14:41 (twenty-three years ago)
― brg30 (brg30), Thursday, 19 September 2002 18:46 (twenty-three years ago)
― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)
THE WAVES OF BLOOD ARE RUSHING NEAR, POUNDING AT THE WALLS OF LIESTURNING OFF MY SANITY,REACHING BACK INTO MY MINDNON-RISING BODY FROM THE GRAVE SHOWING NEW REALITYWHAT I AM WHAT I WANT, I"M ONLY AFTER DEATH
― genital giant (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 April 2020 22:36 (six years ago)
It would have been interesting had xhuxkx had responded...
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 25 April 2020 23:36 (six years ago)
don't feel like that review is hard to understand
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 26 April 2020 03:16 (six years ago)
it's not. i was 4 beers in and looking for a thread with Reign in Blood in the title!
― genital giant (Neanderthal), Sunday, 26 April 2020 03:18 (six years ago)
Discussion was p interesting imo.
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Sunday, 26 April 2020 03:19 (six years ago)
Popping 'em down with codeine in my cupBitch I'm rolling the rillo and burning the ounceCreep through the groundI don't hear a soundBurying bodies all over the townThe Satanic killerThe gripper of triggers that haunts all the rivers
― pomenitul, Sunday, 26 April 2020 03:21 (six years ago)
I remember having to get past the Satanism thing being a struggling Fundamentalist who was close to giving up on faith and falling in love with thrash and desperately wanted to listen to Slayer. found one interview from the 90s with Araya saying he was a Catholic or something and I used that as my excuse.
but I made myself start with albums that had less Satan-y stuff in them
― genital giant (Neanderthal), Sunday, 26 April 2020 03:24 (six years ago)