Creeper Lagoon: why are they not massive?

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Take Back The Universe and Give Me Yesterday, despite its unwieldy title, is a bloody great record, and its predecessor was also rather good. Why is nobody paying attention?

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 19 September 2002 03:51 (twenty-three years ago)

I saw them open for Dandy Warhols.. I had heard a few songs of theirs and thought they were good, but live they were pretty unremarkable. They weren't bad, just very very plain. I never felt the need to seek out further material after that.. maybe I was wrong?

― Bobby D Gray (bedhead), Thursday, 19 September 2002 04:55 (twenty-three years ago)

but live they were pretty unremarkable

ah, Vines syndrome. That might explain things a bit..

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 19 September 2002 05:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Vines syndrome? are you implying *they're* unremarkable live? Crikey! I reckon theire records sound extremely restrained compared to their gigs. But maybe that's just me.

― Charlie (Charlie), Thursday, 19 September 2002 05:59 (twenty-three years ago)

perhaps not unremarkable. just very different to their very very polished sounding recordings.

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 19 September 2002 06:22 (twenty-three years ago)

By unremarkable, I meant that they didn't do much to entertain other than play their songs well. They just looked like 4 (or 3? I can't remember) midwestern guys with jeans and t-shirts playing rock songs. I don't really ask for more, but they don't have much personality, something I take to be somewhat important if a band wants to become "massive".

― Bobby D Gray (bedhead), Thursday, 19 September 2002 16:13 (twenty-three years ago)

I saw them live and was thoroughly bored after they shamelessly ripped off not one, but TWO Cars riffs in a row. Not to mention their rather remarkable lack of personality. Then I read several articles about their major label "trials" (ie, blowing their advance sitting around on a rural California farm doing mushrooms and failing to write new material, "problems" with producer Jerry Harrison, etc.) and was even more thoroughly uninterested. They seem like shills and assholes, and none of their songs hit a chord with me (live, anyway, haven't heard the records).

Thus, they are not massive.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 19 September 2002 17:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Search - early 90s Shrimper tape of solo lo-fi recordings
Destroy - everything since

― gygax!, Thursday, 19 September 2002 17:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Heroin fiend singer. Haven't they fucking OD'd yet? OD! OD! OD!

― paul b, Thursday, 19 September 2002 18:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Take Back the Universe and Give Me Yesterday was a nice enough album, but quite a few people seemed to feel betrayed at its excessively polished, poppy feel by comparison (at least, that is what I garner from a handful of long-time fans). They're decent live, but not anything to marvel (witness their stint on 'Reverb' for proof--the sound is atrocious). The real reason, though, is probably the major-label boost. They suddenly had financial backing and massive habits. Some people from the Pattern told me most of them are either in rehab or just re-emerging. I don't think the line-up is even staying the same for the next record.

― Steph (Steph), Friday, 20 September 2002 03:54 (twenty-three years ago)

I vaguely remember reading that the lineup will be the main guy with a totally new band.

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 20 September 2002 04:33 (twenty-three years ago)

eight years pass...

whatever happened to Ian Sefchik?

― akm, Friday, 19 November 2010 04:37 (fourteen years ago)

he was in on the speakers for a while, who had a not-bad EP. apaz he's in some thing called ghost baby now who i have not heard

http://www.last.fm/music/Ghost+Baby

― xanaxdu (electricsound), Friday, 19 November 2010 04:41 (fourteen years ago)

these days i do understand why they weren't massive, though those 2 albums still sound pretty good

― xanaxdu (electricsound), Friday, 19 November 2010 04:42 (fourteen years ago)

I like the first ep and the first record well enough. what's funny is the reaction at the time was pretty anti-them, in sf; they were seen as interlopers, label-whores, not indie enough, etc. those kinds of arguments all seem very quaint now. if only there were still labels willing to give bands money to waste!

― akm, Friday, 19 November 2010 05:07 (fourteen years ago)

seven years pass...

https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/SF-man-s-tweetstorm-over-stolen-van-leads-to-13222061.php

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 03:01 (seven years ago)

Attempt to fix link: https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/amp/SF-man-s-tweetstorm-over-stolen-van-leads-to-13222061.php

― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 04:14 (seven years ago)

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