Rock/Pop needs lyrics but the lyriucs don't matter

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Have we discussed this before? I was just listening to Aztec Camera's cover of "Jump" -- it's all in the delivery. I think instrumental rock is pretty damn boring, but seems like the lyrics can be anything, as long as they are there.

g (graysonlane), Thursday, 19 September 2002 13:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Also brings to mind Mark Kozelek's AC/DC covers album(s)...

g (graysonlane), Thursday, 19 September 2002 13:53 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah as usual i carnt type..asdf

g (graysonlane), Thursday, 19 September 2002 13:53 (twenty-three years ago)

I can't agree. Are you saying all lyrics are entirely peripheral? But imagine if Anarchy in the UK had no lyrics - it would have had zero impact? My enjoyment of music is always enhanced or depleted in lieu of the lyrical content. And if Lydon had blagged on about sunshine and waterfalls do you believe the song would have ended up as intense and edgy?

Roger Fascist (Roger Fascist), Thursday, 19 September 2002 14:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Shadowy Men from A Shadowy Planet prove this is not true.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 19 September 2002 14:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Christian rock also proves that it is not true.

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 19 September 2002 14:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Rock/Pop needs lyrics but not necessarily meaningful ones.

Siegbran Hetteson (eofor), Thursday, 19 September 2002 14:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Another reason why this is not true = CRAP lyrics. Like rhyming "ghost" with "toast". Or Pure Morning by Placebo.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 19 September 2002 14:13 (twenty-three years ago)

The lyrics matter, but that doesn't mean that they can stand apart from the music.

DeRayMi, Thursday, 19 September 2002 14:15 (twenty-three years ago)

you could probably rhyme ghost with toast and not be crap

g (graysonlane), Thursday, 19 September 2002 14:42 (twenty-three years ago)

And if Lydon had blagged on about sunshine and waterfalls do you believe the song would have ended up as intense and edgy?

If he had done it in that particular tone of voice he uses, then he would have invented the Pixies ten years earlier, no bad thing. And you're getting off on the tone rather than the lyrics, I'm guessing. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 September 2002 15:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Not sure about that man - "I am an anarchist" has quite a different impact and resonance to "I like waterfalls," just written on a page.

Roger Fascist (Roger Fascist), Thursday, 19 September 2002 15:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, but you're not reading "Anarchy in the UK," you're listening to it, surely. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 September 2002 15:33 (twenty-three years ago)

I believe this is a good time for everybody to sing TLC's "Waterfalls" to the tune of "Anarchy in the UK."

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 19 September 2002 15:47 (twenty-three years ago)

"I believe this is a good time for everybody to sing TLC's "Waterfalls" to the tune of "Anarchy in the UK."

I'm gonna say this at my next staff meeting at work.

g.cannon (gcannon), Thursday, 19 September 2002 15:57 (twenty-three years ago)

You sing it, not say it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 September 2002 16:22 (twenty-three years ago)

G Cannon I will buy you a beer if you actually do that

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 19 September 2002 18:49 (twenty-three years ago)

I wouldn't say lyrics don't matter at all. An album with great music can be made even better with great lyrics. Having said this, I would never be turned off an album of great music if I didn't like the lyrics. Good words are just the icing on the more substantial music cake.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 19 September 2002 20:54 (twenty-three years ago)


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