Tim Buckley - Starsailor - C/D?

Gender mirror image of this record: "I'm The One" by Annette Peacock.

always wanted to pick it up but its been out of print. shame...

I don't think it's all that stylistically different from his other albums at the time, either. And not surprising when you find out he was playing double bills with Miles Davis, too.

hopefully I'll have yr luck.

a year ago(?) Rhino (?) released a 2 Cd comp. Instead of doing reissues! Fucking outrage!!!

no way I'm getting it.

Anyway, even the Straight titles shouldn't be that hard to find. Shit, if I know more than one person who has an original of the Black Crack (the Rev. Dwight Frizzell LP namechecked on the first Nurse with Wound record, privately pressed in an edition of 200), it shouldn't be that hard to find a 1960s record by a fairly popular artist on a label with major distribution...

I'd like to recommend the Live at the Troubadour 1969 recording to anybody interested in this era. It's masterfully performed and adds a lot of vibrancy to some already electric arrangements.

In fact for his early-era efforts, i'd recommend starting with Dream Letter: Live in London

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sorry the point i was making is that rec company takes the individual recs out of circulation, they put out a comp and then suddenly reissues come out. so i won't buy it on principle though I'm sure its OK.

this has happened to alice coltrane for instance.

This was almost my exact same reaction, and yet it sounds almost nothing like Soft Machine or some such band. And what was he, 23?

wtf he performed this on "the monkees" tv show?!?! maybe i need to start watching "the monkees" tv show?!?!

Starsailor [Straight, 1970]
In which a man who was renowned for his Odetta impressions on Jac Holzman's folkie label switches to Frank Zappa's art-rock label, presumably so he can do Nico impressions. C-

^^^ Xgau is a total douche. listened to this for the first time today...amazing...those primal yelps on 'monterey' and the title track is on some comsic mystical WTF-ery

Record is all-time. The good news is, even though it's still out of print, it and Blue Afternoon are now available legitimately from eMusic (and I assume other MP3 services?)

Lorca/Starsailor/Blue Afternoon should rightly be viewed as a trilogy, each with its own intensely particular vibe. But it's true that SS is the most unmissable.

The Rhino 2CD comp is mystifying. You have a legendary LP which is virtually unobtainable so you include just 2 tracks off it, one of which is the most uncharacteristic of the album. What is it with Bizarre/Straight releases? Why have Starsailor/Blue Afternoon/Lick My Decals Off been unavailable so long?

two words: Gail Zappa

Glad I saved this one

WOW

Hadn't even gotten to the title track before posting

Just got to the title track

No one could have prepared me for how good this record is even if they'd wanted to

Wasn't most of the lp put on a compilation set a couple of years ago. Not Morning Glory but the one after it.
Blue Afternoon came out in whatever the label calls its 5 cd box set series set of his lps.

THe live material by the Starsailor band is even further out. The band has more room to stretch so may be closer to Lorca but more upbeat in places. There used to be a suite dedicated to him that had MP3 versions of most of his live stuff up. I haven't looked for it for years.

Also the tv show Boboquivari from 1970 has him live in the studio with the Starsailor band. It was a tragic oversight that the official dvd of his material didn't include the full set, particularly since there is so little performance by him captured on film/video. & also especially after the Buckley family estate had announced things about all releases being as comprehensive as possible, this being the official dvd should have included versionsof whatever official material had been in circulation for years.

I'd really like to know if the Knebworth performance from 1974 was filmed since US collector mags like Discoveries and goldmine had classified adverts for copies for years. Would loe to know what that was if it isn't the Knebworth performance.
The audio of that set is around on The return of the Starsailor bootleg along with a '75 Starwood set. BUt it is possible taht better audio is aroun don torrent sites.
The band had changed pretty much completely by that point and Buckley is playing more material from Greetings From LA. but he is still doing vocal acrobatics and the guitarist is somewhere between melodic shredding and John Coltrane.
Awesome set but I think he was on before a lot of the Festival audience arrived.

Are there any books about Tim Buckley, eso detailing the Lorca/Starsailor/Blue Afternoon period?

I think this may be the first record of significance I've heard before Milton. You will also want to pick up Live at the Troubadour 1969.

The Lee Underwood book, Blue Melody, is absolutely fabulous. Underwood goes into great depth about the music and the various stages of Buckley's life and career (he was not only Buckley's guitarist but also best friend).

There's a bit about them rooming together in Venice Beach sticks in my mind as this rare moment in Buckley's career when his music and life were in perfect sync. It's a lovely book.

ordered the readily available troubadour 69. cursory web search makes it seem like it will be a little harder to find 'return of the starsailor' but I'll keep my eyes peeled. I dipped into 'lorca' a bit and it ain't normal but in some ways it really underlines how unlikely 'starsailor' is

thanks you guys

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But I was going to say that there was a set called Honeyman that captured Buckley live in '73. It's a pretty good set but I don't think it has the same edge or energy as the Knebworth set. I think the band may be a but different too. THink it's a bit more laid back. It does have a lot to recommend it but it us pretty different and I really love that Knebworth set. NOt sure how avaialble it is either since I bought it a number of years ago.

I also recently discovered that the '68 set was an lp length thing not justr a 4 song e.p. There are a couple of pretty lengthy songs on it, one over 2o minutes, another over 10 and everything over 5. So it has the jazzy improvisation thing going on that the Dream letter set from the same European tour also has. It looks like the main unit were touring without a bassist so where taht has danny Thompson filling in this has Neils Henning who I think also does a decent job. Not sure what difference them playing with a full time bassist would have meant. I guess both of these fill ins have a jazz background so they are familiar with improvising they just wouldn't have the same familiarity with the material or the playing of Buckley and underwood that a full time emmber would have.

The Blue Melody book was an interesting read and quite fascinating in places but I did leave it with a feeling of egotism on Underwood's part. Haven't read it in years though but I do remember commenting on that around the time I did read it.
I'm not sure what else there is out there on Tim outside of the Dream brother book by David browne where his story is told in alternating chapters with that of his son Jeff. There are a few things around like MOjo articles if you can track them down and The This Fleeting House dvd which I find a bit flawed. I think there is room for a lot more.
Would be great to get somebody to release the Boboquivari set in full, possibly with an audio disc accompaniment. As in the same set's audio, maybe something they could think of if they do a deluxe version of Starsailor at some point in the future,

I realised this morning that I have probably been without a copy of happy Sad for a number of years so probably need to pick up that Original Artist box or whatever it's called,. Now not sure i still have the Lorca I bought in the early 90s.

Thanks a lot for the info everybody! :-)