Fishbone: Truth and Soul.

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Yeah I know I could have made this TRUTH AND POLL but hey im not a fucking monster. This album is awesome.

Poll Results

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"Ma and Pa" Angelo Moore, Kendall Jones 3:19 6
"Freddie's Dead" Curtis Mayfield 4:31 3
"Ghetto Soundwave" Jones 4:24 2
"Slow Bus Movin' (Howard Beach Party)" Jones, Moore, Kibby, Philip 'Fish' Fisher 2:38 2
"One Day" Walter Kibby, Jones, Kahne 4:34 2
"Bonin' in the Boneyard" Moore, Fisher, David Kahne 4:44 2
"I Like to Hide Behind My Glasses" (only included on European release) Dowd, Moore 4:43 1
"Subliminal Fascism" Moore 1:28 1
"Mighty Long Way" Fisher 3:26 0
"Deep Inside" Moore, Fisher 1:22 0
"Pouring Rain" Chris Dowd 5:13 0
"In the Name of Swing" (only included on European release) Moore, Fisher, Kahne 2:46 0
"Question of Life" Moore, Jones, John Norwood Fisher 3:02 0
"Change" Jones, Dowd 2:58 0


I want L'interieur chicken, not Hausu chicken (jjjusten), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

too perfect as an LP. Hard to choose one to stand alone.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

Was just listening to this yesterday! The Mayfield cover is awesome, "Bonin'" is tons of fun, the ska is great. Either the Mayfield or "Ma and Pa," I'd say.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)

Such an awesome record. Like EZ says, hard to pick out one song, especially since I've listened to it so many times that it's like one long song to me. Feel the same way about the Minutemen's Double Nickels on the Dime.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:33 (thirteen years ago)

I love "Bonin"

Euler, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:34 (thirteen years ago)

who doesn't?

"I Like to Hide Behind My Glasses" (only included on European release)

I feel like I should hear this, immediately

WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

still the best live band I ever saw

Euler, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:37 (thirteen years ago)

Toss-up between "Ma and Pa" and "Ghetto Soundwave". Went with the former.

Not sure how I feel about the album as a whole. It was played mercilessly to death for years by friends, to the point where it still gives me angrified boredom flashbacks. Despite that, I do dig a lot of it, especially the more punked-up and goofy stuff: "Deep Inside", "Bonin' In the Boneyard", "Subliminal Fascism" and "Slow Bus Movin'".

Inextricably associated in my mind with Check Your Head, with which it shares a "bros united in punk-funky party music" ethos.

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

"I Like to Hide Behind My Glasses"

Not that awesome of a song. I want to say it was also on the "Bonin'" EP, with the 17 minute long or whatever version of "Bonin'"

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

this was such a jam back in the day! Haven't heard in years, but Bonin sprang to mind first. great songwriting all the way thru tho, great playing -- before they started to get a lot darker, cynical

Dominique, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

lol I didn't even see "In the Name of Swing" (only included on European release)

this is one of my favorite albums of all time, we played the SHIT out of this when it came out

WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:06 (thirteen years ago)

bonin

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

Curtis and Fishbone!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC5sNomuilU

Never heard this, not out of context of the film, for sure.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:11 (thirteen years ago)

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeeeah-ah-ah

WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

oh shit I forgot how completely perfect "One Day" is

WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

1984: minutemen - double nickels on the dime
1988: fishbone - truth and soul
1992: beastie boys - check your head
1996: ?

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:23 (thirteen years ago)

You would think the album would lose steam after the insanity of "Bonin' in the Boneyard" but IMO the true genius is that they ramp the energy down without losing any of the intensity or awesomeness.

WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

purchased for the fun ska joints and then the mellower songs sneak up on you

bnw, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

"glasses" and "swingin" were on the bonin in the boneyard cd single. I like the former a LOT, but don'tm know if everything e;se on this album.

how's life, Thursday, 7 June 2012 22:06 (thirteen years ago)

"...when I'm TRIPPIN' IN THE STOBE-LIGHT!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HBfCynDO6g

how's life, Thursday, 7 June 2012 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

crazy fun band.

I voted 'ma and pa'

nicky lo-fi, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:23 (thirteen years ago)

Bonin in the Boneyard, easy

calm me maybe (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 June 2012 18:26 (thirteen years ago)

FUNKY A_____ BAASSSSS

calm me maybe (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 June 2012 18:26 (thirteen years ago)

1984: minutemen - double nickels on the dime
1988: fishbone - truth and soul
1992: beastie boys - check your head
1996: ?

― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Thursday, June 7, 2012 5:23 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I hate to say it, but the answer is obviously Sublime's self-titled

calm me maybe (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 June 2012 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

no miccio

calm me maybe (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 June 2012 18:29 (thirteen years ago)

1997: cornelius - fantasma

EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:43 (thirteen years ago)

not sweaty enough. whiney otm.

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Friday, 8 June 2012 18:45 (thirteen years ago)

Sublime is never the answer.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

odelay is a better pick for 96.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

no, it's not. wgw otm.

how's life, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

did rage against the machine put out a record in 1996?

Dominique, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:33 (thirteen years ago)

yes. it was not part of this aesthetic continuum.

how's life, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

seems like it was at that point that "this aesthetic continuum" had fed back on itself and/or splintered

Dominique, Friday, 8 June 2012 21:19 (thirteen years ago)

or was directly and proudly influenced by the Minutemen, Fishbone and the Beastie Boys, ymmv

calm me maybe (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 9 June 2012 06:13 (thirteen years ago)

I thought RATM was influenced by Korn or something.

how's life, Saturday, 9 June 2012 10:37 (thirteen years ago)

that would be a neat trick, considering RATM formed 2 years before Korn did

Victory Chainsaw! (DJP), Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

"Ghetto Soundwave" is the only song I remember, and it's gorgeous. Never got into album-oriented Fishbones past the perfect first EP but I'll give this one another try. For some reason I always transposed "Bonin' in the Boneyard" to the tune of "Rollin' on a River" in my mind.

Cornelius is wild, never heard them. If you're going to look for mid-'90s pretenders, maybe Arab on Radar, NoMeansNo, Rancid, Fugazi--none as great as Minutemen, but all better than Sublime, Beck, or RATM IMHO.

Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:35 (thirteen years ago)

Lumping nomeansno into the mid-90s category is not ok. And also wrong.

I want L'interieur chicken, not Hausu chicken (jjjusten), Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

that generational "yes, actually"/"fuck you, no quarter" divide around Sublime is so interesting imo

decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

I have no idea what any of you are talking about with this year by year list.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

Wish I'd re-listened to this before I voted, because I too had forgotten how amazing "One Day" is.

Three Word Username, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

1984: minutemen - double nickels on the dime
1988: fishbone - truth and soul
1992: beastie boys - check your head
1996: ?

― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Thursday, June 7, 2012 9:23 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

1992 should be 40 oz to freedom. 1996 should NOT be the self-titled sublime, but I don't really know where to go with it.

how's life, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

Is this a list of albums released every four years, beginning in 1984, that don't sound like one another?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

This is the most Algerian Goalkeeperian conversation I've ever been in and I'm disgusted with myself for even opening this thread

calm me maybe (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 9 June 2012 21:05 (thirteen years ago)

I think I'm only getting every other post on this end. Either that or I've totally flaked on my ILX mythology.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 June 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

Anyway, I was in a high school band. The guitarist really liked the Cure and the Smiths. The bassist was really into the Chili Peppers. The singer liked Hendrix. I liked Fishbone. I had yellow sneakers.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 June 2012 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

I had a high school band where 3 guys were into fishbone and the specials and op ivy and the drummer was into the eagles.

how's life, Saturday, 9 June 2012 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

actually, he was really into zima, then don henley.

how's life, Saturday, 9 June 2012 21:27 (thirteen years ago)

We played "Purple Haze," "Foxy Lady" and "Knock Me Down."

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 June 2012 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

Is this a list of albums released every four years, beginning in 1984, that don't sound like one another?

nah, it's a list of albums that had been previously mentioned itt, united by punk, funk, sweat and brotherhood as an ethos.

contenderizer, Sunday, 10 June 2012 03:05 (thirteen years ago)

This is the most Algerian Goalkeeperian conversation I've ever been in and I'm disgusted with myself for even opening this thread

― calm me maybe (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, June 9, 2012 9:05 PM (Yesterday)

dude 5 of the last 25 posts before this are your posts! you are amazing

I want L'interieur chicken, not Hausu chicken (jjjusten), Sunday, 10 June 2012 06:15 (thirteen years ago)

i am amazing, thank u

calm me maybe (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 10 June 2012 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

What a great for this thread to fall asleep on.

robert mcnamara in reverse (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 03:54 (thirteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 21 June 2012 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

huh, i expected more support for "bonin' in the boneyard" after all the talk on this thread

contenderizer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 01:33 (thirteen years ago)

Ma and Pa was my favorite for a long time back when I first got this album back in 6th grade (a direct result of Anthony Keidis' exhortation to "funk it up, Fishbone!"). I came from a super-functional household, so I didn't really i.d. with the lyrics, but it was probably the first ska song I heard. "Fighting for love on an angel's feather/why don't you get your shit together" is such a great line.

thread is p much urine (how's life), Thursday, 21 June 2012 12:01 (thirteen years ago)

you guys should check out the Fishbone doc on Netflix streaming if you haven't already

Darin, Thursday, 21 June 2012 23:06 (thirteen years ago)

XP - Did you check out X and fIREHOSE too?

MaresNest, Thursday, 21 June 2012 23:42 (thirteen years ago)

Haven't played this in like 20 years but I liked it at the time. Not as much as The Reality of My Surroundings or their debut EP tho.

Somehow never got around to hearing In Your Face. And by the time Give A Monkey A Brain or whatever came out I kinda hated everything.

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 22 June 2012 02:28 (thirteen years ago)

Give A Monkey A Brain is still my favourite fishbone LP. Truth & Soul is excellent, tho - would've voted Ghetto Soundwave, or Ma & Pa, or Question Of Life.

Just saying. (stevie), Friday, 22 June 2012 11:10 (thirteen years ago)

Really? After "Reality ..." which is one of my fave LPs, period, I hated "Monkey."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 June 2012 11:42 (thirteen years ago)

XP - Did you check out X and fIREHOSE too?

― MaresNest, Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Much later. This was back in middle and high school when I was lucky to buy 4 or 5 albums a year. I got a fIREHOSE album maybe four years later and didn't get into X until after college. "The New World" was a staple on the radio when I was a kid and I just lumped them in with other middle-of-the-road adult alternative based on that song.

thread is p much urine (how's life), Friday, 22 June 2012 11:59 (thirteen years ago)

In Your Face actually kind of hold up the best of all the 'bone stuff

some dude nights (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 22 June 2012 12:21 (thirteen years ago)

Rong. But it is the most new wave.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 June 2012 12:25 (thirteen years ago)

xp really, though it was also my first fishbone, so... but you can't go wrong with Black Flowers, Lemon Meringue, Unyielding Conditioning and so on...

Just saying. (stevie), Friday, 22 June 2012 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

'what would you do Walter?'

'aaaaaaaaaiiiiiii-duh!'

MaresNest, Friday, 22 June 2012 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

When was 'The New World' a radio staple?

robert mcnamara in reverse (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 22 June 2012 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

Late 80s/early 90s on WHFS.

thread is p much urine (how's life), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/video/roots-play-joke-michele-bachmann-15009556

MaresNest, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)


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