New Nirvana track leaked...

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...and it's boring. It's cool hearing Kurt's voice in an unfamiliar song, but almost everything about this (save the burst of the familiar Cobain guitar squalls near the end) sounds like the generic alt-stuff that popped up in '93 or so instead of the Crazed Bastard Child of the Pixies and Mudhoney that reared its head circa '89.

― Nate Patrin, Sunday, 22 September 2002 15:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually it reminds me a bit of Alice In Chains' "Would?" Oog.

― Nate Patrin, Sunday, 22 September 2002 15:09 (twenty-three years ago)

It were all fields of grunge back in my day.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 22 September 2002 15:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Three words - 'Stone', 'Temple' and 'Pilots'.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 22 September 2002 15:47 (twenty-three years ago)

matt- b-but thats four!

i want to click on that link but i can't...it might be too painful!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 22 September 2002 15:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Probably more reason to laud Cobain...not only did he know his way around a hook, he seemed to know when something wasn't up to his standards and left things unreleased for good reasons.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 22 September 2002 16:08 (twenty-three years ago)

It sounds like nu-metal. I bet all the nu-metal bands were issued tapes of this years ago by major labels so that they could study it and plan their industry takeover.

― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 22 September 2002 16:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Fuckin hell ...

Someone just joked on the Bikini Kill thread that NO ONE still bangs on about whether or not Kurt sold out, ten years later, and here you all are, just proving them wrong.

Snore. Who cares? Grunge is over. It FAILED. Fucking forget about it already!

― kate, Sunday, 22 September 2002 17:20 (twenty-three years ago)

''Grunge is over. It FAILED''

Um, what did it try to do in the first place BTW? I'm curious! I am!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 22 September 2002 17:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Grunge failed? Tell that to Creed.

― Famous Athlete, Sunday, 22 September 2002 18:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Grunge failed? What, pray tell, was it exactly trying to accomplish in the first place?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 22 September 2002 18:07 (twenty-three years ago)

goodness that song was bad.
now I am sad.

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Sunday, 22 September 2002 18:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Is that the one with the two different versions? The one Dave Grohl likes, that has that bit "Courtney Love is the worst thing ever and Dave Grohl's a really nice guy", and the one Courtney wants to put out, that goes something like "Courtney Love is wikkid, and Dave Grohl looks like a horse"? Or is that a different one?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 22 September 2002 18:47 (twenty-three years ago)

"Snore. Who cares?"

Lots of people other than you, it would appear.

"It FAILED. Fucking forget about it already!"

What was it trying to succeed in?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 22 September 2002 20:26 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm with Sean C. on this one... Probably would have remained an outtake, and probably should have remained so. Still, better than anything by Creed.

― donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 22 September 2002 20:41 (twenty-three years ago)

creed rock and u r all pagans

― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 22 September 2002 22:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Nirvana failed to take us higher, to a place where blind men see

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 22 September 2002 23:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Grunge won. Big time.

Grunge gave zillions of dollars to indie labels, many of whom still put out quality, non-grunge records today.

Grunge firmly established the college touring base that was only half developed in the 80s. Grunge blew the door off of radio programming for about five years. Ultimately, grunge proved that there was an alternative, and that people might buy it.

Name another popular musical trend that had this degree of impact in the past 20 years. You can't.

People who think grunge failed have forgotten about hair metal awfully conveniently. Yes, grunge was a trend that spawned a zillion second rate bands, but the good far outweighs the band.

Oh, and there was almost a precedent-setting lawsuit over "You Know You're Right"? Yeesh.

― Don Weiner, Monday, 23 September 2002 02:08 (twenty-three years ago)

the good far outweighs the band

Best typo ever.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 23 September 2002 02:10 (twenty-three years ago)

the good far outweighs the band

unless the band is Hatebreed

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 23 September 2002 02:57 (twenty-three years ago)

don is that yr real name or are you a welcome to the dollhouse fan

― ron (ron), Monday, 23 September 2002 03:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Name another popular musical trend that had this degree of impact in the past 20 years. You can't.

Wow, you're right. I started to type "rap" and I COULDN'T DO IT!

― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 23 September 2002 03:07 (twenty-three years ago)

actually it looks like you managed just fine.

― ron (ron), Monday, 23 September 2002 03:50 (twenty-three years ago)

And as well as rap, acid house (everywhere except most of America, mind you, but still massive).

― Chriddof (Chriddof), Monday, 23 September 2002 09:58 (twenty-three years ago)

''Grunge gave zillions of dollars to indie labels, many of whom still put out quality, non-grunge records today.''

OK now i know what's wrong with the world. Money!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 23 September 2002 10:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Because of grunge, today we have Nickelback. Grunge lost. QED.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 23 September 2002 11:33 (twenty-three years ago)

... and Bush. Or is it Nirvana? I can't tell.

' sucks.

― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 23 September 2002 11:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Hard to believe this is the track that's spawned such a flurry of vitriol and legal bickering. I mean, like someone said above, it's fine, but doesn't sound like anything more than an outtake or filler-esque album track. That Courtney maintains that "it could be a hit" is laughable to me, but then again, *EVERYThing* that shrill, vaccuous harpee says is laughable to me. Isn't this track supposed to be a big "fuck you" to her anyway? (Or did I dream that?)

In any event, at least it doesn't sound like Killing Joke this time, so no further lawsuits necessary.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 23 September 2002 13:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Eek, that is a horrible, horrible oversight by not mentioning rap, which had a much bigger effect than grunge. But it could be argued that rap was an entirely different form of popular music. Oh, and the rap/hip-hop culture gave us P. Diddy and a lot of offensive moments equal to anything Nickelback came up with.

The impact of grunge on rock music, I submit, is still quite astonishing.

Someone deal me an argument of acid house music being on an equal impact level of grunge. No, really.

I wonder what Courtney "I'm taking this to court" gave up in negotiations.

― Don Weiner, Monday, 23 September 2002 13:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Don, you coulda just got out of it by saying "The last TWENTY years -- rap made an impact before 1982".

― Nate Patrin, Monday, 23 September 2002 17:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Rap's official "point of impact" was probably closer to 1979, methinks.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 23 September 2002 17:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, I could have gotten out of it by playing semantics but my honesty got the best of me this time.

I also think it's more important to focus on the fact that grunge was a *trend* and not what arguably has become an entirely different, lasting genre of popular music. In that context (which was the original, implicit context) I wouldn't even call rap or hip hop a trend; that's a dishonest assessment to the impact and importance of it since it stands on its own 25 years after the fact.

Grunge (which is exactly *what* anyhow) was a cultural phenomenon and from my perspective is unmatched over the last quarter century. Actually, the mere presence of Vedder sound alikes (aka Nickelback et al) so many years after the fact is a similar influence to what Zeppelin had in the 1980s.

― Don Weiner, Monday, 23 September 2002 17:31 (twenty-three years ago)

The odd thing about the "neo-Grunge" bands (like Nickelback, Creed, Default, the Calling and whomever else apes Vedder's sonorous, throaty baritone) is that were Pearl Jam themselves even officially "grunge"? They always struck me as having more in common with classic rock bands like Bad Company than irrefutable grunge godheads, the Melvins. There really isn't anything "grungey" about Pearl Jam's sound.

The term itself ("grunge") was derived from the sloppy, dirty guitar sound of bands like the Melvins and Mudhoney, I thought.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 23 September 2002 18:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Since a couple of Pearl Jam's (Ament and Gossard) members were in Green River with Mudhoney's Mark Arm I guess they became Grunge By Proxy.

― Nate Patrin, Monday, 23 September 2002 18:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Fair point, Nate.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 23 September 2002 18:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Where's Everett?

― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 23 September 2002 19:01 (twenty-three years ago)

seven years pass...

In Bloom (DJ Cremoso Tecnobrega remix)

http://soundcloud.com/djcremoso/in-bloom-dj-cremoso-remix

― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Monday, 1 March 2010 17:07 (fifteen years ago)

Tecnobrega?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/7872316.stm

― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Monday, 1 March 2010 17:09 (fifteen years ago)

five years pass...

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/hear-kurt-cobains-chilling-unreleased-beatles-cover-20150421

― Kibbutzki (Jaap Schip), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 15:37 (ten years ago)

Chilling?

― Mark G, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 08:13 (ten years ago)

um, it's .. OK.

Pretty much what you'd expect: Slower, lower down in the register, are they going to overdub a cello?

― Mark G, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 08:18 (ten years ago)

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