Best 21st Century Release on RS's 500 Greatest Albums of All-Time

1. voodoo
2. college dropout
3. is this it
4. blueprint
5. stankonia
6. vampire weekend
7. late registration
8. sound of silver
9. whatever you say i am
10. marshall mathers lp

1. back to black
2. the blueprint
3. voodoo
4. the college dropout
5. late registration
6. stories from the city, stories from the sea
7. stankonia
8. tha carter iii
9. the marshall mathers lp
10. kala

not really a concrete order. this isn't a very inspiring list

I feel like most of these don't deserve to be above #500, but whatever.

Voodoo or Elephant or maybe Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (even though I stopped listening to it years ago).

went voodoo over is this it and blueprint

Sound Of Silver just ahead of Voodoo.

i LIKE kala and i can't fathom anyone including it in a GOAT list

stories from the city remains PJH's worst album of the 21st century and indeed her career

Ended up choosing Elephant over Voodoo because D'Angelo is getting plenty of love here. Elephant probably needs my help.

i LIKE kala and i can't fathom anyone including it in a GOAT list

honestly i'm surprised that M.I.A. wasn't higher

what's the most indefensible placement here?

in rainbows, right?

Voodoo

what's the most indefensible placement here?

427. Peter Wolf - Sleepless

Nobody gives a shit about what Peter Wolf is doing in the 21st century.

xpost meaning I voted Voodoo, not it's the most indefensible placing. That would be everything above that isn't better than Erykah Badu's entire post-Y2K output (i.e. all but two or three of those albums).

stankonia

All the amazing records of the 21st century and I'm stuck trying to choose between Amnesiac and Kala? Sheesh.

What the fuck planet is Late Registration better than College Dropout

The Marshall Mathers LP

Nobody gives a shit about what Peter Wolf is doing in the 21st century.

― Johnny Fever, Saturday, June 16, 2012 2:56 PM (9 minutes ago) BookmarkNobody gives a shit about what Peter Wolf is doing in the 21st century.

i actually have no idea who peter wolf is

For a second I got excited and thought that might be Patrick Wolf. No such luck.

What the fuck planet is Late Registration better than College Dropout

― la musica de harry frogbs (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, June 16, 2012 3:05 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

yeah this is stupid, but at least they had enough sense to rate 'blueprint' over 'black album'

i actually have no idea who peter wolf is

He sang in the J Geils Band and had a solo hit in the 80s with "Come As You Are".

To say Arcade Fire made one of the 200 Greatest Albums of all Time is some fuckery I'd expect from like Tiny Mix Tapes

He sang in the J Geils Band and had a solo hit in the 80s with "Come As You Are".

― Johnny Fever, Saturday, June 16, 2012 3:08 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

this isn't helping

lol whiney

this isn't helping

That's my point. No one cares what Peter Wolf is doing in the 21st century.

lol I just looked up Sleepless and there's a song on there called "Hey Jordan".

That Peter Wolf album is really good. Would be in my top 10 of things on this list.

sick of all these wolf bands

What the fuck planet is Late Registration better than College Dropout

― la musica de harry frogbs (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, June 16, 2012 2:05 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

can only take this as a defense of the 5-star review they dropped on it

i think i'm voting for Marshall Mathers

^yep

i don't do acid rap but i rap on acid

college dropout but i am surprised at the amount of stuff here i'm ok with

Kala

What the fuck planet is Late Registration better than College Dropout

― la musica de harry frogbs (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, June 16, 2012 3:05 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

i live there

a lonely planet

anyway, voodoo. but i didnt really look at the list very closely.

1. blueprint
2. late registration
3. kid a
4. is this it
5. college dropout
6. voodoo
7. mmlp
8. stankonia
9. black album
10. a rush of blood to the head

To say Arcade Fire made one of the 200 Greatest Albums of all Time is some fuckery I'd expect from like Rolling Stone

no skrillex no credibility

Love and Theft

god I might have to say Love and Theft over Kala and The Blueprint. It's a well-spent uninvolving 50 min for a Sat evening

honestly the only two that really give me a huh? are mgmt and arctic monkeys. everything else is the expected big-name tokenism, "serious" arena rock, or old people.

if the second Vampire Weekend or Arctic Monkeys albums were on the list I'd give'em a second listen

Stankonia

Love and Theft gets my vote.

1 - back to black
2 - marshall mathers LP
3 - blueprint
4 - kid a
5 - funeral
6 - yankee hotel foxtrot
7 - college dropout
8 - stankonia
9 - sound of silver
10 - vampire weekend

don't really care about any of these

Funeral and fuck all you haters!

the mgmt is the only one that makes me go 'wait they revised this and mgmt is still on there?'

i'm surprised no yeah yeah yeahs

Sound of Silver over In Rainbows, Stankonia, Voodoo, Blueprint, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, and Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea.

2nd MGMT album is way better than the 1st imo

modern times is great fuck tha haters

no Daft punk gtfo

this whole Kala being better than Arular thing isn't going to go away is it?

sayin

american idiot makes perfect sense on an rs list though

― me so fat (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, June 17, 2012 5:15 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah there's at least a narrative behind 'american idiot' that makes it understandable why it would show up here

― lamborghini persie (J0rdan S.), Sunday, June 17, 2012 6:26 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

iirc it as "most indefensible", not "most inexplicable"

it was*

Arular is the only MIA album I listen to much.

this whole Kala being better than Arular thing isn't going to go away is it?

― piscesx, Sunday, June 17, 2012 4:32 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

belongs in the latepassapedia even though there's no excuse

American Idiot is a great classic-style anthemic rock album imo. "Jesus of Suburbia" is all-time. I think American Idiot at #225 is more defensible than e.g. saying Bob Dylan made 10 of the 500 greatest albums of all time or ranking the first Led Zeppelin album as their best.

modern times is great fuck tha haters

^^ this.

Going with Kala, though.

Definitely Amnesiac.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Voted In Rainbows in the absence of any Mew.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

336. Radiohead - In Rainbows 10
67. Radiohead - Kid A 10
320. Radiohead - Amnesiac 2
244. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP 2

This is some shameful shit

That's like insisting Royal Tennenbaums is a better movie than Robocop. Get the fuck out of here with that

I did not vote or read most of this thread, but can I just say that, as an OutKast fan who bought every album from ATLiens forward on its respective release date, Stankonia was a noticeable step down and a very uneven, half-failure of an album?

Because it was not a very good album, considering what they had done up until that point.

**going back to read entire thread now**

yeah i didn't hear all their 90s albums til later but Stankonia is def wak compared to those

Post-reading the whole thing. . .

As a hip hop head in rehab, I cringe that the hip hop records from the last decade (or so) are even considered alongside most of the music on this list.

Because it's gotten really, really bad in those years. And to think that some of the albums mentioned here are among the "best" the genre has to offer (not implying they aren't — many are actually rather good) should be a signpost that things are not well in the hip hop sphere.

i dont have the hip hop bona fides of some of you guys but i really, strongly disagree w/you re: stankonia

I'm a goon and Stankonia is the best Outkast album.

stankonia is probably not the best outkast album but you could very easily make an argument that it is. i don't think it's a REAL HEADS KNOW THE DEAL thing. it's not like people who say that the black album (or the fucking grey album) is the best jay-z album.

people liking 'in rainbows' this much is absolutely nuts

i mean aquemini would give it a run for its money but "uneven" is completely baffling, like please let me know the bad songs on stankonia because i have not heard them.

i missed this thread but i prob would have gone for the old fart love and theft vote.

people liking 'in rainbows' this much is absolutely nuts

I was kind of torn between a few albums on the list, so I just asked myself which of them sounded most appealing to me at the moment.

kanye only getting one total vote in this poll is o_O

considered voting for late registration, but had to go with...

I'm a goon and Stankonia is the best Outkast album.

― some dude nights (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:20 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i am not a good, and whiney otm

Okay, so, I'm not among those of the "REAL" heads faction. I was just a kid who was there and was a big fan and saved up my lawn mowing earnings for weeks in advance of ATLiens and Aquemini.

The material on those two albums was not the average "street smart" hip hop fare. Lyrically, I hadn't learned that much from words in since Chuck D. And they had hints of sheer musical brilliance. ATLiens in particular was right on par with the other "big" album of 1996 (Endtroducing). The biggest revelation was that both albums were still using samples, but in such a new way that it almost seems to cheapen both ends by calling it "a sample" (the before and after, for instance).

To be over the top and dramatic, it actually fucking felt like musical revolution for me.

Stankonia was just not as perfected (and yet, still somehow more produced?), not nearly as smart ('Snappin and Trappin', 'Gangsta Shit' and letting B-Real air out his "beef" with a journalist during his cameo are just bad ideas that perpetuate all the negative stereotypes about hip hop) and it poorly catered to the "southern" demographic ('I'll Call Before I Come' and the embarrassing 'We Luv Deez Hoez' were pretty much the antithesis of why I liked OutKast in the first place).

There are some very good songs on it though. Like I said, it's a half-failure.

naw

"i am not a good"

lol @ me

that post is borderline slander

the other "big" album of 1996 (Endtroducing)

somebody needs to repeat not the average "street smart" hip hop fare about 200 times

somebody needs to repeat it poorly catered to the "southern" demographic about 200 times

my god the ILM kanye bubble burst hard

Somebody needs to explain to me what the hell any of you are talking about.

Clearly smarter than me.

Dumb it down for a n00b.

Please?

Phrases like "street smart" and "the southern demographic" are reductive and DJ Shadow is for herbs

Okay, someone who actually wants a discussion, please explain.

Lol

discuss away

The material on those two albums was not the average "street smart" hip hop fare.

go ahead

For comparison, Nas released his second album (It Was Written) and Jay-Z released his first album (Reasonable Doubt) in the same year as ATLiens.

For someone who was previously into De la Soul, Public Enemy and Pete Rock + CL Smooth, it was a no-brainer who the heir to that throne was.

are you trying to do something or

Just trying to defend myself because the onslaught of smart alec responses makes me feel I need to.

For comparison, Nas released his second album (It Was Written) and Jay-Z released his first album (Reasonable Doubt) in the same year as ATLiens.

posting like this like you're educating anybody comes off really badly fyi