"Fake dub" - let's construct a playlist

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Inspired by talk on the Peaking Lights thread by WCCheesecake with regards to often preferring 'fake' dub to 'real' dub, which I think I do, generally. Whilst I love a bit of King Tubby or Augustus Pablo, I think I often prefer it when some shitty band or techno bod or trendy synth duo or whoever lay a big fat dubby bassline and some stereo effects down.

So let's make a playlist.

Higher Than The Sun (A Dub Symphony In Two Parts) - Primal Scream
Constantinople - Echoboy
Rematerialsed - Death In Vegas
One Big Family (Perfecto Remix) - Embrace

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 18 June 2012 11:10 (thirteen years ago)

There's a bucketload more Primal Scream tunes one could include; all of Echodek, half of Vanishing Point.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 18 June 2012 11:10 (thirteen years ago)

Catch My Drift by AR Kane.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 18 June 2012 11:14 (thirteen years ago)

The Police - Walking On the Moon

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Monday, 18 June 2012 11:43 (thirteen years ago)

Something off Metal Box.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 18 June 2012 11:44 (thirteen years ago)

Lazarus!

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 18 June 2012 11:50 (thirteen years ago)

Anvil Dub by Kitchens Of Distinction.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 18 June 2012 11:50 (thirteen years ago)

Bela Lugosi's Dead

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Monday, 18 June 2012 11:51 (thirteen years ago)

Quite a lot of Leftfield's first album.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 18 June 2012 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

watching the detectives

give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Monday, 18 June 2012 12:03 (thirteen years ago)

Seefeel - Blue Easy Sleep

The Underground Lovers - Recognize

Tim F, Monday, 18 June 2012 12:11 (thirteen years ago)

a few cuts off lifetones - for a reason. such an underrated record. up there with the best of this heat/camberwell stuff

Crackle Box, Monday, 18 June 2012 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

"Dan MacArthur" - Jah Wobble

Mark G, Monday, 18 June 2012 13:26 (thirteen years ago)

I had a bass line bugging me for this thread, and now I remember what it was:

"Stereotypes part 2" - The Specials

Mark G, Monday, 18 June 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51V139KP75L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Monday, 18 June 2012 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

"Upon Ninth and Fairchild" from "Giant steps" (seeing as "Lazarus" was already mentioned)

Rob M Revisited, Monday, 18 June 2012 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

The Streets - Let's push Things Forward

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 18 June 2012 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

Some of these are just plain ol' reggae rather than dub, aren't they? Maybe dub is a more inclusive term than I thought.

Anyway, Blind Idiot God - Dead Continent Dub, Clockwork Dub, Major Key Dub, Dubbing the Sinai

Jamie Saft - Vesamcheynu Dub, Aveira Dub, Kasha Dub, Fresser Dub

Biff Wellington (WmC), Monday, 18 June 2012 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

Ooh, Ooh, ....

"Rockabilly Guy" The Polecats, the dub version on the NME cassette.

Mark G, Monday, 18 June 2012 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

Ah, I've been thinking about Blind Idiot God today, good call WmC!

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Monday, 18 June 2012 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

Most UK alt-rock CD singles from the 90s seemed to include a 'dub' remix as a b-side.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 18 June 2012 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, some of these are just reggae rather than dub; I think, if it's not instrumental or largely instrumental, that there needs to be some serious stereo-effects and studio trickery. So I reckon lazarus counts, for that big intro, but maybe Upon 9th and Fairchild doesn't...

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 18 June 2012 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

Every track on every volume of the Guidance Records Hi-Fidelity Dub series.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 18 June 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

Did anyone listen to that Franz Ferdinand "dub" album?

I have a copy, bought vercheap, never played...

Mark G, Monday, 18 June 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

I had no idea it existed.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 18 June 2012 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

Furry Things - "Buttercup" from Hedfones

Trip Maker, Monday, 18 June 2012 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

xpost yeah, it's a double CD 'deluxe' edition of the "Tonight" album.

Mark G, Monday, 18 June 2012 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

the james vs sabres of paradise ep surely qualifies here :

http://www.discogs.com/James-vs-Sabres-Of-Paradise-JAM-J/master/440960

been ages since i heard it, so could be time to dig in the archive.

oh, and imho the franz ferdinand 'dub' album aint all that - its not really dub in the reggae sense of the word, just f*cked up versions without vocals ..

another indie does dub thing was the extra dub disc, space invader dub, that came with the dead 60s debut album which i listened to a lot more than the album proper.

mark e, Monday, 18 June 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

tied + tickled trio, 'tamaghis' (among many other tracks)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA9oEK9iDAQ

40oz of tears (Jordan), Monday, 18 June 2012 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

The final ten seconds of Last Living Souls by Gorillaz.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 18 June 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

well, gorillaz also released a full on dub version of their debut.

mark e, Monday, 18 June 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

Family Fodder - Der Leiermann (Organ Grinder)

Trip Maker, Monday, 18 June 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

RFI : Dub metal

xhuxk, Monday, 18 June 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

The Pop Group "She is Beyond Good and Evil"

bham, Monday, 18 June 2012 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

"Dracula" from Gorillaz's debut is p much full on dub

robert mcnamara in reverse (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 18 June 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

Stuka might be the best Primal Scream example.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 18 June 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

Canadian band Big Sugar released an album of dub versions of some of their songs under the name Alkaline with the album Extra Long Life.

MarkoP, Monday, 18 June 2012 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

"LO HI" - Peaking Lights
"Wild Dub" - Generation X

mike t-diva, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:39 (thirteen years ago)

The passions - "I'm in love with a German film star"

windjammer voyage (blank), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 00:30 (thirteen years ago)

Sir Horatio - Sommadub

cock chirea, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 00:46 (thirteen years ago)

Fugazi - Version
Unwound - Sensible

cock chirea, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 00:49 (thirteen years ago)

Bela Lugosi's Dead

while we're at it: "She's In Parties"

mississippi joan hart (crüt), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 01:11 (thirteen years ago)

slowdive - souvlaki space station

windjammer voyage (blank), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 02:11 (thirteen years ago)

The Slits - Cut

Chris S, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 02:24 (thirteen years ago)

Pylon, take your pick

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 02:50 (thirteen years ago)

too much house music to mention huh

windjammer voyage (blank), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 02:55 (thirteen years ago)

mm hm. and techno, oldskool, jungle/dnb, 2step, grime, dubstep...

Chris S, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 02:58 (thirteen years ago)

There is a pretty big dub influence all over the first couple Tortoise records.

earlnash, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 03:10 (thirteen years ago)

also some beatles records

windjammer voyage (blank), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 03:44 (thirteen years ago)

I keep wanting to say Climbing up the Walls, but I'm still not totally sure if that's the kind of thing we're looking for.

robert mcnamara in reverse (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 04:45 (thirteen years ago)

What about The Clash's "Bankrobber"?

Tantrum The Cat, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 04:52 (thirteen years ago)

Santigold - Shove It

daavid, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 05:43 (thirteen years ago)

Things a tune needs in order to be fake dub:

1. A massive bassline
2. Clouds of ambience
3. Loads of stereo FX and frippery and stuff
4. Little emphasis on vocals, if not completely instrumental
5. Groovy as fuck
6. Really strun-out

It should not:

1. Just be a tune with a big / good bassline
2. Just be a reggae song

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 08:11 (thirteen years ago)

Strung-out, obviously.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 08:11 (thirteen years ago)

Tortoise - Why We Fight (D Version)
HiM - Port Of Entry (Resistance To The Ugly Spirit Mix)

cock chirea, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 08:20 (thirteen years ago)

Was going to add "Champion Doug Veitch" here.

A sort of Billy Bragg type that did Country/Reggae 'fusion' style, was thinking particularly of "Jumping into love" b-side, I dunno how many of the 6 needs it fulfils, but hey-ey-ey

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 08:39 (thirteen years ago)

Christiana - Health Dub

cock chirea, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 08:43 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBS6TS07VAU

phuturephase, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:04 (thirteen years ago)

i thought there was a sense of deja vu here.

i was about to post about the dubbed up remix of daydreamer by menswe@r when google pointed me to this old ilm thread :

"Fake dub"

mark e, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:08 (thirteen years ago)

I thought I'd done a thread on thsi before, but it didn't turn up in the 'do you want to resurrect this thread?' options when I started this one. Bizarre.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:16 (thirteen years ago)

There's a version of "Cyanide" by the Lurkers, marked up as being a "pub" version.

I dunno if it's fake pub or what.

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:25 (thirteen years ago)

well, gorillaz also released a full on dub version of their debut.

this is definitely full on fake dub

the hat's filthy lesson (sic), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 12:31 (thirteen years ago)


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