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brasil! There doesn't seem to be much mention of Brasilian music on ILM and i was wondering what people thought. guess its kind of a search and destroy for a whole countrys music.

I'm favourable towards Marcos Valle and Dom Um Romao, think Joao Donato is ok, but don't like Caetano Veloso or Os Mutantes.

also noticing that the artists i've mentioned (and also, of course, astrud gilberto - the dilletantes fave) are 60s/70s artists. does brasil have the same 60s/70s rose-tinted cultural nostalgia as us/uk?

― gareth, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The resurgence of interest in 60/70s Brasilian music seems to be fairly well linked with hipsters like Stereolab. If that means the reissue of material by Os Mutantes I'm all for it, but of course there's more. Lately, I've been enjoying Music Typewriter by Caetano Veloso's son Moreno. I also thought that the Bebel Gilberto album was pleasant enough. Still, there has to be more out there worth searching for, esp. stuff on the fringes.

― Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i found a couple of tom Ze tracks via napster that where pritty great and a lot of the brazilian releases on luaka bop ( david byrne's label) are a great modern take on brazilian music.. .. maybe worth investigating.. anyone have any further info on tom ze.. recommended releases etc..

― jk, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Search the Brazil EP from DJs Marky and Patife, if you can find it. Amazing Jungle reworking of some Samba etc. Brasilian music. This is one of the most fascinating and entertaning projects to come out of drum and bass going global.

― Toby, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Beleza Tropical 1, on Byrne's Luakabop label is essential for Calice, by Gilberto Gil and Chico Buarque, which is one of the greatest songs ever.

― Sterling Clover, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The first Jorge Ben song on that Beleza Tropical album is also freaking great, as is his "Taj Mahal", whose melody Rod Stewart used in "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy". You can find that on his (Ben's) Africa Brasil album, also a great one. He changed his name to Jorge Benjor a few years back 'cause apparently his royalties kept getting sent to George Benson instead.

― Patrick, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ramon leal is quite nice, granted i only bought his record because i am a slave to siesta but both of his records are very nice and he is doing a fabulous job on the siesta musical comedie series.

― keith, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've got that Batucada Capeoira album on souljazz records - very nice.

― dog latin, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

c'mon, Caetano Veloso is the adult / 30 th certficated !!. The best song he write is on englis, and is called London, london (from the LP caetano veloso, 1968)

Downloaded now! and forget the others (exept the first 5 albums form os mutantes)

― Marcos Zurita, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah it's an area I always want to investigate further, but it's a bit hard to navigate through. No doubt in my mind that Os Mutantes were a better band that The Beatles though. Also love Astrud Gilberto (for real, not in a kitsch way). Antonio Carlos Jobin's 'Wave' is allright in a breezy summer day cocktails by the pool sorta way. And yeah Bebel Gilberto is pretty good. But there must be more, THe Wire had a good Tropicala primer some years ago, still haven't bought anything off that list :(

― Omar, Wednesday, 9 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Downloaded a no. of 'baile funk' MP3s after Job De Wit (of kindamuzik IIRC and occasional contributor here) put me onto them - very hard booty bass-influenced music, really strong-sounding stuff, currently the subject of all sorts of censorship/morality related outcries as I understand it though all that is (thankfully? sadly?) lost on me as I don't know Portugese. I wrote up "Super Popozao" by DJ Marlboro on FT a couple of months ago.

― Tom, Wednesday, 9 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one month passes...

foto pldssss

― nwaf, Tuesday, 3 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two weeks pass...

Tom ZE - definitely! genius!! Bossa - if you like it there are loads of reissues around. My favourite is the first Caetano Veloso album, which he recorded with Gal Costa. I love Milton Nascimento to bits. An acquired taste, to be sure. But Clube da Esquina 2 is indisputably an absolute masterpiece! Otherwise, Lenine, Nana Vasconcelos, Clara Nunes, early Jorge Ben, Arnaldo Antunes, Hermeto Pascoal... It just depends what you like. Brazilian music is a huge subject.

― Daniel, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three months pass...

I have a couple compilations of Brazilian music that I like. The better of the two is "Brasil: A Century of Song--Bossa Nova Era" on the Blue Jackel label (I had never heard of it either). It's Bossa Nova Era, but not strictly Bossa Nova, at least if I understand what that term means. Some of it definitely involves heavy, wild Samba drumming. It's a nice mix for the most part, though the last three tracks don't do it for me at all: they're kind of smooth jazz/fusion-ish.

The other compilation is spottier, and less varied in style, but there are still some really fine things on it.

A lot of the most famous names are included here, so I don't think this stuff delves really deeply.

I also like the "Beleza Tropical 1" sampler, though I have trouble listening to it straight through.

I think there is a lot of new music being made in Brazil today, it's just not marketed much outside of Brazil (or not in the U.S. anyway). If you happen to be able to find an MP3 of "Maracatu Atomico" by Chico Science & Nacao Zumbi, I recommend it, but I can't really recommend the whole CD. I thought they sounded very interesting at first (metal guitars, Brazilian rhythms, samples from the Fall?!) but I don't really like them.

In the ghettos of Brazil there is a phenomenon called "funk dancing" which is essentially small scale gang warfare in clubs, to very violent sounding music. Or so I have read.

― Deraymi, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ohmigod! (yes i am jennefer anuston) TOM ZE! TOM ZE! TOM ZE! if i only could've bought one album in 2001 it would be "jogos de armar" - perfect perverted pop yep better than "vestibule", better than "hoshi no koe" better than meshuggah's "chaosphere". like the butthole surfers' "locust abortion technician" but brazilicanissimo. it really connects in a totally accessible way and i don't even understand portugese. simply beautiful . the previous album "defecto de fabricado" (or whatever it's called) is also fkn faboo as i'm sure all his previous works i do not own are. isn't arto lindsay a wanker though? DNA were shit.

― bob snoom, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"vestibule"?????? i meant "vespertine" - better than that

― bob snoom, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two years pass...

Tell me more about Hermeto Pascoal, especially things about his recordings. (Not just the general Brazilian little known Brazilian legend stuff.)

― Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Saturday, 27 December 2003 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...

that romao album is now on slsk

― gareth (gareth), Saturday, 10 January 2004 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Timbalada!!!

― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 11 January 2004 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Lots of good stuff mentioned. I really like at least a few albums from most of the artists mentioned so far.

Favorites include:

Caetano Veloso "Transa"
Marcos Valle "Garra"
Jorge Ben "A Tabua De Esmeralda"
Secos & Molhados "73/74"
Lo Borges "A Via Lactea"
Gal Costa S/T 1967
Tribalistas
Milton Nascimento "Milton"
Djavan "Seduzir"

Trama (Tom Ze's & Nacao Zumbi's current label) is pretty great. I've yet to hear anything on Trama that I don't like. I especially recommend Wilson Simoninha & Max de Castro from their younger artists.

― billy g, Sunday, 11 January 2004 09:26 (twenty-one years ago)

the soundtrack to the movie 'city of god' is currently on sale.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 11 January 2004 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Walter Franco is great. Especially the album Ou Nao

― , Sunday, 11 January 2004 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

the hermeto pascoal album i heard was almost noir-esque

― Stringent Stepper (Stringent), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...

Where's my Max de Castro thread where nobody had anything helpful to say?

― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 2 September 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

I think Max is here:

Modern Brazil - s/d

while carioca funk is here:

also http://beatdiaspora.blogspot.com/

― Steven Kiviat (DC Steve), Monday, 4 September 2006 04:34 (nineteen years ago)

For your consideration: Paulinho Da Viola

Os Mutantes - Which is the best album?

― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

six months pass...

[chico science with gilberto gil video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bjt2AI1_pA&mode=related&search=[/link]

― curmudgeon, Monday, 12 March 2007 02:45 (eighteen years ago)

Chico science with g gil video

― curmudgeon, Monday, 12 March 2007 02:47 (eighteen years ago)

nara leao, gal costa & joyce all have some very beautiful songs

― gershy, Monday, 12 March 2007 03:29 (eighteen years ago)

Gilberto Gil on US tour!

Unfortunately not in Chicago

― factcheckr, Monday, 12 March 2007 03:44 (eighteen years ago)

March 15th 2007 - Toronto, Canada
Massey Hall

March 16th 2007 - Ann Arbor, MI
University of Michigan - Hill Auditorium

March 18th 2007 - Washington, DC
Lisner Auditorium - George Washington University

March 20th 2007 - New York, NY
Carnegie Hall

March 21st 2007 - New Bedford, MA
Zeiterion Theatre

March 24th 2007 - Los Angeles, CA
Royce Hall
UCLA

March 25th 2007 - Berkeley, CA
Zellerbach Auditorium
UC Berkeley

March 27th 2007 - Davis, CA
Mondavi Center for the Performing Arts
UC Davis

March 28th 2007 - Redwood City, CA
Fox Theatre

March 30th 2007 - Miami, FL
Miami Performing Arts Center

March 31st 2007 - Tampa, FL
Ferguson Theatre
Tampa Bay Performing Arts Center

― curmudgeon, Monday, 12 March 2007 04:52 (eighteen years ago)

Brazilian carnival video podcast

― curmudgeon, Monday, 12 March 2007 05:01 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

i've been on a massive brazilian music kick for the past week or so. jorge ben's "africa brasil" is the shit. i have made it my mission to play this for as many people as possible who have any interest at all in funk or latin. it's just effortlessly happy and funky and wonderful. yes yes yes. tom ze and caetano veloso and os mutantes too, of course, and getz/gilberto, which is an album i grew up on. god i want to go to brazil.

― Emily Bjurnhjam, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

I like Africa Brasil too. I enjoy many Brazilian artists.

― admrl, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

you would like arthur verocai maybe. the album with na boca do sol on it, (72?)

― 696, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

eight months pass...

I only got to hear two of the albums listed (Kassin+2 & Caetano Veloso) during the actual year they were released. I have yet to find a world magazine or site that gives reliably timely release information. Any suggestions?

Nação Zumbí - Fome De Tudo (Deck Disc)
Kassin +2 * Futurismo (Video Arts Japan)
Momo - A Estetica Do Rebisco (Umvd)
Lucas Santtana & Seleção Natural - 3 Sessions In A Greenhouse (Diginois)
Caetano Veloso * Cê (Universal)
Totonho & Os Cabra - Sabotador de Satélite (Trama)
Nação Zumbí - Futura (Trama)

― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 10 January 2008 17:05 (seventeen years ago)

Nação Zumbi= "zombie nation"! sound familiar?

― blunt, Thursday, 10 January 2008 17:37 (seventeen years ago)

I have yet to find a world magazine or site that gives reliably timely release information. Any suggestions?

Hmmmmmm, not sure if Global Rhythms magazine out of NY lists such information or Songlines or FRoots (formerly Folk Roots) from the UK do so either. The Beat Magazine, out of Los Angeles, has little information on their website although their magazines list at the end of each issue which cds they received before that issue (that possibly narrows things down but does not provide specificity). The Beat's Brazilian column is not too thorough. There may be Brazilian websites that list when stuff has been released there.

― curmudgeon, Thursday, 10 January 2008 18:30 (seventeen years ago)

So the answer is no I guess.

― curmudgeon, Thursday, 10 January 2008 18:36 (seventeen years ago)

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