Not liking old music doesn't make a young person stupid. Liking new music doesn't make an old person smart.

Discuss.

nuh uh

The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

everything is a remix

music doesn't make anybody anything

music makes me happy

music makes me lose control

i love music

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These kids today with their Grizzly Bears and Animal Collectives don't understand real music. Now it's all about the money and computers. Nobody feels it man.

Music is what we like to play.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coHUt4si8Oo

Rock and roll music, if you like it, if you feel it, you can't help but move to it. That's what happens to me. I can't help it.

Not liking old Muse Sick-n-Hour Mess Age makes a person smart

i like that old time rock n roll

music is all around when you really think about it

There is no noise that is not music. Some of it is terrible music though.

I blame MTV. That's when it became all about the image, and what you look like. The music and feeling it wasn't important. It all became just another commodity for the corporate suits to package and sell, man.

sometimes I'll get some music and when I look at the print on the back it'll turn out it's from 2010 or even earlier. but then I just say, "well it's new to me!!"

the 2010s all still seem like futuristic dates to me, so 2010 still seems really recent

sometimes music is not properly tagged that sucks

liking flacs only does make a person smart though

flacs have done wonders for my regularity

i think this pretty much covers it yeah

Conflating taste and intelligence is probably not the best road to go down.

There is something good from all eras. One should open ones mind to music from all ages.

I can understand that a young teen doesn't feel like checking out old stuff that his parents likes usually. But said kid should also open his mind for older stuff when he is around his late teens. The same way, one shouldn't stop searching for new music just because some new music is crap. Even if you prefer older styles, there is a lot of great new stuff out there, just a bit under the radar.

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001781401/254991506_interesting_xlarge.jpeg

There is something geir from all geirs. One should open ones geir to geir from all geirs.

i like that old time rock n roll

what's weird is that i was just thinking today of posting an "old time rock n roll" vs "it's still rock n roll to me" thread. i mean, not about the relative merits of those two songs, but about the relative merits of the two approaches described therein to the problem of being middle-aged and not being sure you understand how modern music works -- do you just focus on the fact that certain virtues of older music are no longer honored ("old time rock and roll") or do you deny that music has actually changed in any substantial way ("it's still rock and roll to me")? of course there are other approaches but i'm not sure they're laid out in AOR hits of the 1980s so we must not speak of them.

they say the heart of rock and roll is the beat = a highly theoretical work by Huey Lewis who speculates what it might be like were he to encounter this "beat". I see this as taking the still-rock-and-roll-to-me approach to another level (the mezzanine bro)

sad songs say so much and I guess that's why they call them the blues = really falling into neither camp, more in the line of "drift away"

"silly love songs" is the defensive approach, as was "it's only rock and roll."

although that billy joel song is pretty defensive too. I adore that bullshit about how new wave is some kind of expensive lifestyle - didn't joe jackson do one like that too? something about making a fortune on safety pins?

I remember how I used to hate that the weekend oldies show used to always include "old time rock and roll" even though it was out of the era they were playing, on the grounds that it was "our theme song" because we wanted to hear some oldies. fuck you, man.

what's weird is that i was just thinking today of posting an "old time rock n roll" vs "it's still rock n roll to me" thread.

i think of doing that about once a month, possibly also also with "it's only rock'n'roll (but i like it)" and other songs in the mix.

didn't joe jackson do one like that too? something about making a fortune on safety pins?

That would be "I'm the Man" and I will brook no criticism of this majestic song, which is not about music, by the way. "Skateboards -- I've almost made them respectable!"

Went and listened and "I'm the man" sounded great actually. He mentions safety pins in "beat crazy" too but basically my memory wasn't reliable. While I'm doing mea culpas I realized that "I guess that's why they call it the blues" is not a music commentary song, although "sad songs say so much" obviously is.

I have always hated "Old Time Rock & Roll" so much, even since I was a little kid

It sure did not give a good case for the appeal of old time rock and roll

Had to look it up. Bob Seger, eh? Don't know if I've ever heard it.

Hmm, it seems he only ever had the one top 40 hit over here.

for whatever reason, the phrase "Bob Seger, eh?" made me lol.

Michigan's kind of a terrible place tbh

"Bob Seger, eh? Excellent!"

http://www.cio.com/images/content/articles/body/2008/10/Mr_Burns_150x176.jpg

Anyway I am 42 years old and recently listened to the new Sleigh Bells and my IQ went up four points. True story.

Odd I had the reverse reaction.

Michigan's kind of a terrible place tbh

i heard the trees there are just the right height

this is the only new album i love this year. but it is july so maybe i'll like one more by december.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwQ9g5rW5jg

they say the heart of rock and roll is the beat

this is super dumb of me but it is irritating me to no end that ppl are misquoting this line

in cleveland

That's where the oboe may be banned

ps Sports was very important to me when I was 10

wait i forgot the new necro deathmort album! always love them. two new albums to love is plenty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNd1hP1DxUg&feature=related

they say the heart of rock and roll is the beat
and from what I've seen I would eat it
now the albumen is fairly seething
but the heart of rock and roll, the heart of rock and roll is believing.

the heart of rock & roll is still grievin'...for kurt cobain r.i.p. stay strong courtney

A middle-aged investment banker the other day asked me if I liked the new Shins album
And I was like "Yeah man, yeah it's alright, but what do YOU think about ONEOHTRIX POINT NEVER, man, huh?!" and jabbed a dirty fingernail into his face

Oh man DJP your preteen self has just fallen a bit in my regard :\

hey man, music is music

unless of course it's bROKENCYDE cuz that shit is terrible

Yeah, but bROKENCYDE called their album I'm Not a Fan, But the Kids Like It, so they've got a pretty solid grip on what they're doing and who they're doing it for.

self-aware bullshit is still bullshit!

Should be the name of your mixtape.

It cracks me up that Phil can rattle off the names of bROKENCYDE albums, but claims to not be able to recognize Justin Bieber in a photo.

crabcore was only of the only things TO bust briefly through my checked-out generational wall in the last few years...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjHjm5sRqSA

Is this thread b/c of that intern-listens-to-Public-Enemy post on NPR?

I thought it was Phil trolling Yelawolf fans in some previous P&J thread

Pretty sure it is. NPR Music is doing some really great trolling lately.

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I never noticed that Huey Lewis worked a couple of extra syllables in every line like that.

They say the heart of rock and roll is a cretin
And from what I've seen you can meet him
Now the old boy may not bear repeatin'
But the heart of rock and roll, heart of rock and roll is a cretin

in cleveland

lol my 10-year-old self is going to travel forward in time and cry at all of you

"NPR Music is doing some really great trolling lately."

has whiney been doing consulting work? it would explain a lot.

lol

But then his young protege turned around and used his new trolling powers to attack whiney's favourite album of all time. It's like a Greek tragedy.

Or a Wayans Brothers comedy.

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liking old music makes old people dorky. liking new music also makes old people dorky. that's about it.

What a drag it is getting old

i was so much older then, i'm older than that now

Don't forget all the young people who hate new music. At the college I work at there are zones where it's nonstop 70s classic rock. It would be like if when I went to school we had all gone around playing Glenn Miller and the Andrews Sisters.

this guy i was talking to at a bar last night said that his 15 year old son broke up w/a girl because she didn't like Coltrane

dirty projectors -vs- steve miller band

fleet foxes -vs- fleetwood mac

this guy i was talking to at a bar last night said that his 15 year old son broke up w/a girl because she didn't like Coltrane

― sarahell, Monday, July 16, 2012 1:06 PM (22 minutes ago)

His son is Bill Cosby?

not liking things because they're old does make you a bit stupid tbh

lol @ people acting like it still matters how recently something was released. music is no longer consumed/considered/thought about in terms of when it came out - time + concepts of "progress" or new music being for new people/old music for old people have become totally irrelevant

kids don't care if something is "new" anymore. It's ALL new to them! and there's so much of it!

i finally found a keeper copy of grank funk's we're an american band album. not that i've been looking non-stop, but this is the one to beat and the best i've heard in 25 years. hot stamper! very heavy. great depth. highs/mids/lows are solid. sonically bright and bold. great detail. hard to find on those friggin' yellow vinyl pressings. sledghammer sound effect on "The Railroad" quite impressive on this copy. still some surface noise, but all in all very nice.

there is a lot of something on the internet, you can't deny it

oh dip scott just dropped a hot stamper on the board...daaaamn that's a power move

i prefer grand fund

Once in a while in college I wound up babysitting this neighborhood ten-year-old kid (long story), and one day I had on a James Brown tape and the kid goes "Why are you always playing that old stuff that my pop plays? Do you want to listen to the same music for your WHOLE LIFE?" At that moment it seemed like a good point.

correct answer is everybody should listen to James Brown for their whole lives imho

esp. Geir

Bobby, things done got too far gone. An old man can't do nothing anymore. We got to let the young people know what they got to do for us.

putting this here so I can read it later:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jul/15/william-skidelsky-bbc-culture-horizon

i love how the bass is right up front on WAAB. as it should be. dunno what it sounds like on cd. i've never heard grand funk on cd. drums could have been recorded better, but what are you gonna do? (i'm not actually the biggest todd-as-producer fan in the world to be honest. don't tell any utopia fans on this board that i said that. and i'm not a big fan of the bearsville studio in general. this album not recorded there though. recorded at some coked-out studio in miami. which probably explains why the bass sounds so good.)

hurting when we were 10 one time we were playing down on the school's track & field track and jumping into the pole vault mat and my friend karl shit his pants, so don't believe everything 10 yr olds tell you

lol @ people acting like it still matters how recently something was released. music is no longer consumed/considered/thought about in terms of when it came out - time + concepts of "progress" or new music being for new people/old music for old people have become totally irrelevant

sincerely not getting whether this is a parody of "singularity approaches" rhetoric or an authentic assertion

listening now to "stop lookin' back" and i take it back about the drums. they sound great on this and title track is enough to make anyone a believer in todd. good pressing can be like hearing an album for the first time.

heard an alt-rock radio station in upstate NY yesterday. their tag line/ID was "NEW music" but every other song was from the 90s like Bush or STP

Heard Ryan Seacrest on the radio while driving this morning and he played "Livin' la Vida Loca" followed by One Direction followed by "Jessie's Girl."

I get more crap from friends about being 3-4 years late on some dance track or electronic track, than I do about raving over some 60's garage track I just found or some 20's jazz number i think is tits.

favorite tracks at the moment:

2012's Death Grips - The Fever (Aye Aye)
1928's Louis Armstrong And His Savoy Ballroom Five - Tight Like This