Macklemore, "Same Love"

I didn't know whether to put this in the Frank Ocean thread, the XXL Freshmen thread, or the rolling terrible songs of 2012 thread (not because I think this is terrible, but because he has been clowned repeatedly there):

http://www.macklemore.com

Say what you will, but good for him, and I don't mind the song either.

Oh, and here's the cover. His uncles:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/412546/SAMELOVE-BLOG-WEB.jpg

The song's not great but the message is expressed well. Hats off to him.

^my thoughts exactly

the number one album on iTunes

"The Heist" Macklemore & Ryan Lewis

Leftsetz is excited about the "Jimmy Iovine" song

I just saw the video for Same Love the other day. Touching.

I like "Thrift Shop" too, even if it's corny as fuck. Thanks for reminding me the album came out today.

that is kind of incredible to me given that I only know Macklemore & Ryan Lewis for their contribution to the Worst Fake Irish Songs of All Time canon.

fuck these guys and the safe, acceptable, Bellevue High School class of 2014-enabled horse they rode in on

that's not very hug-a-thuggable

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/486885_456721987704860_2045808381_n.jpg

So what is his best song? I feel completely out of the loop with this guy, but it looks as if he's blowing up from some sort of grassroots movement.

hearty lol @ "I'm a whore 4 Macklemore"

"best song" would imply he has any good ones

oh hey now, I'm looking at that girl in the lower middle right next to her friend in the orange top.

"best song" would imply he has any good ones

― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, October 9, 2012 9:40 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well, the man has fans. I'm assuming he has some decent songs at least but don't really want to waste my time looking for them. So I'm hoping someone knows about some that are better than the others. I'm pretty liberal. I can enjoy some Mac Miller once in a while and understand his appeal completely. This guy, though? It must be in there somewhere.

"life's too short" is the weakest, most mockable dismissal to levy against someone's desire to check out a musician, but... well, life's too short

I know it's dumb to compare white rappers to each other just because they're white, but Macklemore already has two more songs I like than Yelawolf and Mac Miller put together.

my basic take on this dude is: "whatever, i like the songs i've heard pretty well"

it's easy to hate the easily hated.

^^ otm, except that I haven't really heard anything I like.

I think what's interesting is that Macklemore seems to be actually crossing over big time without any real media backing outside of the XXL freshmen cover. No one is really paying attention, "important" bloggers and writers are treating him as a joke but sells out shows everywhere (or so I'm told). Mac Miller already did that, but at least he had the Wiz connection, you know? But Mac is too easy to hate and so is Macklemore. So I'm thinking there's something we're missing here, probably. I'm fine with not liking everything the kids like but I like to understand what's going on.

I deal with condescending white liberal Seattlites day in and day out and I have never, not even once when encountering these folks, thought to myself, "you should rap."

there's a generation of Atmosphere fans out there

never forget

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp_lW7yYgiM

Yeah I guess he's the new Slug, really. Atmosphere had some good songs though.

Atmosphere are the only band I've ever heckled

tbf he did go to Garfield, not Bellevue High. I'm not about to start bragging to anyone that he went to my high school though.

I think what's interesting is that Macklemore seems to be actually crossing over big time without any real media backing outside of the XXL freshmen cover. No one is really paying attention, "important" bloggers and writers are treating him as a joke but sells out shows everywhere (or so I'm told). Mac Miller already did that, but at least he had the Wiz connection, you know? But Mac is too easy to hate and so is Macklemore. So I'm thinking there's something we're missing here, probably. I'm fine with not liking everything the kids like but I like to understand what's going on.

― Gelados n cream (longneck), Tuesday, October 9, 2012 5:13 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

imo it's just the same 'certain strain of white kids that are mainly interested in white rappers' that's been around in different forms for ages, rallying around the beasties, then v.ice, then house of pain, icp, eminem, atmosphere, etc etc etc. the other day i saw a 12 year old girl in a mac miller shirt walking around target w/ her mom.

tbf he did go to Garfield, not Bellevue High. I'm not about to start bragging to anyone that he went to my high school though.

― JoeStork, Tuesday, October 9, 2012 3:19 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I said his fans did, not him

I think I got tired of being told by earnest white kids who would be repulsed by the idea of listening to Jay-Z or Lil Wayne that I should listen to Macklemore, ooooh, about 5 years ago.

none of atmosphere are white tho

The Heist is inventive and original. In fact, this album is almost perfect. Except, however, for one song. “White Walls ft. ScHoolBoy Q & Hollis” glamorizes the offensively stereotypical rap favorites of Cadillacs, rims, and hoes. ScHoolBoy Q’s verse, with lines like “White hoes in the back seat snorting coke” are so glaringly out of place that I’ve been trying to figure out if I’m misinterpreting the song. On an album that attacks name brands, eschews misogyny for inclusiveness, and chronicles substance abuse, hoes snorting coke in a Cadillac seem out of place. It’s a sour note that throws off the rest of the otherwise brilliant album.

Mack L'Amour would be a good name for a Heavy D type rapper

and just now Macklemore is on the radio rapping intensely and earnestly about his battle for sobriety

ha some dude

according to my facebook feed over the last 20 minutes The Gays are Sold

oh lord

Dick's is the place where the cool hang out.

I've never liked their burgers tbh. I did meet Tabes outside of Dick's tho!

I finally heard some of this guy's stuff and it just seems like the logical extension of a lot of the underground rap that was predominantly popular with white teenagers--he's definitely a more humorless Slug, but I could see this kinda thing ticking boxes for people who were also really into, like, Eyedea or Cunninlynguists.

That being said, I have liked a couple songs by all three of those and nothing this guy has put out seems remotely close to listenable? What is the appeal beyond him "not rapping about hoes and cars," because the lyrics can't be it?

also, what the fuck even is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhf5cuXiLTA

What is the appeal beyond him "not rapping about hoes and cars," because the lyrics can't be it?

― fadanuf4erybody, Tuesday, October 9, 2012 8:26 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

conscious rap has always been one of those genres defined more by what it's not about than what it's about.

yeah i get that, but this kinda thing is so separate from the actual genre in a way closer to mac miller than, i dunno, any of those '00s white guys or talib kweli. honestly shocked that schoolboy q has a verse on this, just so out of place

i think there's some rule that every rapper who becomes famous or semi-famous the same year has to do a song together, no matter how little sense it makes

I don't love this dude, but it's hard to hate thrift shop

and maaaan I tried

i can't decide if his voice sounds more exactly like slug's or buck 65's (all wite rappers sound the same)

Mack L'Amour would be a good name for a Heavy D type rapper

― some dude, Tuesday, October 9, 2012 11:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If Macklemore changed his name to Mack L'Amour I'd become a fan.

I still wouldn't buy his music though. I'd just, you know, defend him on the internet.

I still define conscious rap as afrocentric, this post atmosphere stuff feels different imo

they're gonna do no. 1 on billboard next week

actually i guess mumfords are gonna go no. 1 again, but macklemore will be up there

wow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq-NShfefks

fred durst runs a magic themed jazz night in LA

white rappers are magic

Probably should put this here tbh rather than keeping it in the Sheeran thread

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/1wg73id/macklemore_speaks_out_after_being_dropped_from_ed/

Macklemore OTM, fuck robert kraft

fuck Ed Sheeran too for being the spineless coward we all knew he is

I am sorry Macklemore I was not familiar with your game

I can't believe I have posted like 25 times to this thread. That's crazy.

On the other hand, it's starting to look like my mild Macklepoligism may still age well!

https://consequence.net/2026/09/robert-kraft-macklemore-statement/

More on Robert Kraft’s role in canceling Macklemore from stadiums

https://s.abcnews.com/images/Business/GTY_macklemore_costume_race_sk_140520_16x9_992.jpg

Rapper Macklemore reacts to P!nk and Robert Kraft's accusations of anti-semitism

https://bsky.app/profile/chadc.bsky.social/post/3mvikunsfbk2n

Wait, Robert Kraft the personal friend of New York financier Jeffrey Epstein?

I hadn't realized the thing Pink reposted was from StopAntisemitism, I wonder if she also thinks Ms Rachel is an antisemite

I had no idea Pink was Jewish until last week (and keeping track of which celebrities are Jewish is one of the main ways my family practices Judaism). I'm interested whether she spoke out when Macklemore was actually being anti-semitic in 2014 (thanks for the reminder Whiney), or if she only cares about anti-semitism when someone is trying to advocate for Palestinians.

well that certainly seems to be the Kraft approach

xp she mentioned the costume in her statement but no idea if she said anything in 2014

Her statement is one part fine, one part weird imo but I’m not Jewish

so Kraft's statement is:

Based on Macklemore’s recent actions, material shared from the stage during Ed Sheeran’s shows in New Jersey, and a broader history of antisemitic rhetoric and imagery that we believe has been deeply offensive and hurtful to the Jewish community, we determined that his participation in the September 25th and 26th concerts at Gillette Stadium would cross that line.

and ends with:

I would welcome the opportunity to sit down with Macklemore and discuss the facts, because ultimately our goal is the same – peace for all people, an end to suffering, and an end to all hate.

So Macklemore is both a long-time incorrigible anti-semite who will attack the people of Gilette with his unstoppable torrent of hate speech, and also someone who wants peace and love for all.

I wonder if the PR firm who crafted that statement realized halfway through what utter bullshit they were releasing

imagine sitting down and "discussing facts" with robert kraft, i might actually relish the opportunity

next time just ask him to Mackle less

kraft macklemoroni and cheese

We shouldn’t have trusted Gillette after they started going after short dick men in the ‘90s

they were the original Mackle less

Our legendary site founder with a bit of 'what the hell' here:

https://bsky.app/profile/tomewing.bsky.social/post/3mvo4lxxayk22

Tom Ewing

OK properly shocked that Macklemore’s current - not peak - Spotify monthly listeners are 34 million

Acts who have apparently never reached this level include:

Metallica
Backstreet Boys
Outkast
Nickelback
2Pac
The Rolling Stones
Foo Fighters
Amy Winehouse
Carly Rae Jepsen
Kylie

I don't see Mick Jagger solo on that list.

i understand the temptation given that the number is at the top of all spotify profiles and the other streaming services don't publicize data but i wouldn't use spotify monthly listeners as a gauge for anything really

for instance i can see the luminate data collecting all streaming services and macklemore does like 30-33 million streams per week globally (i'm estimating bcuz "macklemore & ryan lewis" songs count separately) whereas the rolling stones do 55-60 million streams per week, the foo fighters do 40 million per week etc. monthly listeners is a proprietary algorithmic calculation of.... something, but as a measure of overall popularity i would steer clear

xpost LET'S WORK

im trying to imagine encountering the macklemore culture people at home just listening to some macklemore while they do the dishes like its totally normal friends talking about their favorite macklemore song and so forth thats crazy

are they the same people who listen to the other white rappers like are they throwing on g eazy too is there a culture of people who love white rap or maybe macklemore is the one rapper they like and most they listen to like imagine dragons i guess they could be rap fans who like drake and macklemore

its pretty baffling to like macklemore imho, i get that he had that one huge record but those were just pop songs with guest singers doing the chorus, macklemore has a serious fanbase that at least somewhat predates that album

i covered a macklemore concert at the height of his fame and one thing that really seemed to resonate with his fans was his sobriety journey & the way he centered that in some of his early music, there was something almost church-y about the feeling, not the religious aspect but like, people gathering for salvation. not to make it all about sobriety but i do think that he has fans who identify with him as a person beyond the pop hits

ive heard that there are artists thatre popular in recovery circles

As dated and mortifying as this Obama-era liberalism looks, it's nice to know it produced a legit avatar who has done more than inspire a couple of acquaintances back in the day to respect his journey.

If i found myself listening to Macklemore on the reg I think I'd dive straight off the wagon

https://i.ibb.co/h12mJJWL/s-l1600.webp

He announced today that he's donating the $1 million(!) that he netted from the Ed Sheeran tour (before dropping off it) to Palestinian aid organizations, and challenged Robert Kraft to match it. Kraft responded with... some bullshit.

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:4d7w4ylnasmg7oayamznsznp/bafkreibs34pdxzlsf2l5n3tbhbexaxeqxik36iq2oggesumcbphkkobg24

all lives matter

this statement doesn't actually say he's donating a single penny lol. he of course had to make clear that him and Sheeran came up with the idea independently, hours before Macklemore did anything

it has come to my attention that i don't actually know how 'macklemore' is pronounced

i'd always thought it was Mack L'Amour? i mean i've seen the 'mackle less' jokes but that can't be right . . . right?

its the former the latter is just a goof

im trying to imagine encountering the macklemore culture people at home just listening to some macklemore while they do the dishes like its totally normal friends talking about their favorite macklemore song and so forth thats crazy

― lag∞n, Wednesday, September 16, 2026 6:38 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

are they the same people who listen to the other white rappers like are they throwing on g eazy too is there a culture of people who love white rap or maybe macklemore is the one rapper they like and most they listen to like imagine dragons i guess they could be rap fans who like drake and macklemore

― lag∞n, Wednesday, September 16, 2026 6:43 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

its pretty baffling to like macklemore imho, i get that he had that one huge record but those were just pop songs with guest singers doing the chorus, macklemore has a serious fanbase that at least somewhat predates that album

― lag∞n, Wednesday, September 16, 2026 6:46 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Mackle sold a shit ton of the first record ("Thrift Shop," "Same Love," "Can't Hold Us") through a combination of incredible grinding and a little bit of indie back-channel hand-greasing. The audience did not stick around for Album Number 2, which famously flopped. He hasn't seen the other side of the Top 40 since him and Ryan Lewis parted ways, which is more than 10 years at this point. He had a moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STH9ZpeFH2o

That’s not true Whiney; duo album dos peaked at #4, and Macklemore’s subsequent solo albums peaked at #2 and #18 respectively

I mean unless you’re talking singles which I imagine you are—

First time having to separate the art from the artist but in reverse

Duo album dos absolutely tumbled from the charts immediately, but, yeah, I guess there is a loyal Mackle massive who cops his new joints on day 1 unlike, say, Lizzo

hes got million of people streaming his shit to this day

hes got million of people streaming his shit

ewwwwwww

thats right