"We can now usefully divide all British pop and possibly all British pop culture into Opening Ceremony and Closing Ceremony"

n/t

Macca = opening. Lennon = closing. according to the actual ceremonies that is.

well the thing is i think Imagine and Hey Jude are both pretty Closing Ceremony bits of pop, though Imagine definitely wants to be Opening Ceremony

whereas i think A Day In The Life is more Opening Ceremony

"Welcome to the Opening Ceremony"

OC had some acts that are very CC, like Sande (though she's literally CC too)

I approve of the basic notion that the 90s should be forgotten entirely.

are Throbbing Gristle OC or CC cos i suspect this is cobblers

anyway, two sides of the same mouldering corpse etc

TG = not pop obv.

TG are OC; industrial section / Fuck Buttons.

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And in so far as they are "pop culture", which is debatable since they are and always were so obviously Tate-bait (no bad thing, you understand), they are OC.

there was quite a lot of shit in the OC, it was just that most of the music came in 30-sec snippets so it was quickly over whereas in the CC you had brian may widdling on for about a decade and george michael unaccountably allowed to perform 9484338 songs and that awful closing who song lasting forever

one thing i never expected to learn from this whole thing: mr bean >>>>>>> eric idle

It was three Who songs Lex. They're not prog enough to have one that sounds like that.

george michael unaccountably allowed to perform 9484338 songs

Or "two" as this number is known in decimal form.

I'm overjoyed that we finally have two handy terms to describe whether we like something or not.

Or to put it the other way the opening ceremony was a masterpiece of framing so that even the bits you otherwise didn't like worked within a wider narrative context, whereas the closing ceremony was just a mess.

Was talking about why Boyle's was so much better and the obvious conclusion is that he's not a massive wanker he's a story teller and thus can weave things together in a coherant way, whereas Gavin is a bellend with no cultyural awareness who just likes big bangs works purely on spectacle with no context.

OC is the new OTM

CC is the new OTT.

Hamildan OC

CC = Any artist who's ever appeared on a TV-advertised compilation CD called something like 'Girls' Night In' or 'Best of Songs' or 'What Dads Listen To'

OC = All other recorded music

There's OC, there's CC, and there's "West End Girls".

West End Girls is the only track that is both OC & CC.

It's the Schrodinger's cat of Olympics ceremony music classification.

I think "Baba O'Riley" was used in both, as well.

Park Life also?

OC actually felt more selective and elitist in some ways. But OC was more about songs whereas CC was more about the performers. Big point in the former's favour there imo.

One ceremony pointed out that we invented the internet, the other pointed out that we like jellied eels and talking like wankers. 'Parklife' is 100% Closing Ceremony.

OC was Song 2, CC was Parklife (I think).

OC: Heroes. CC: Fashion. The classification holds...

OC is Mike Oldfield?

A compilation CD of the songs from the CC has been released.
All of you please feign surprise.

Ya don't say so!