Great music discoveries from other people's (p4k) lists I want to talk about

Enjoy yr boring clusterfuck going in circles, I am loving Citrus by Asobi Seksu

http://deadleafonafence.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/asobicitrus.jpg

It pretty much sounds like the cover, cute Japanese girl vocals over noisy indie.

Also I have come to really like In Sides by Orbital, as mentioned on the other thread and have listened to it twice in as many days. Other things I've heard because of other people on ILM: the first Laura Marling record, which was pretty but I've already forgotten it, a record by The Auteurs that was OK but not really my thing and Beaches And Canyons by Black Dice which I just thought was a mess.

Anyone else discovering new loves? Anyone else listening outside their comfort zone? Any lists you saw and wanted to recommend? http://peopleslist.pitchfork.com/list/71a7ac6b/ is the sort of list that fascinates me and might keep me going for the rest of 2012, insomuch as I love the 5 records I've heard on it and the rest I know fuck all about other than there are some cool record covers.

First option for other existing threads to post this in was Lets Talk about other peoples genitals so I guess ilx really wants me to get involved with the minefield of the other thread

that list looked really intriguing until I hit Cocorosie

btw SUPER GLAD you discovered In Sides, that album is really fucking astonishing

lol i must have glossed over the cocorosie. such a hideous cover. all the usual suspects have great lists too, like tim f and co

I don't think that's the album with the super dubious racist shit on it, but then again I have no intention of listening to it to find out thanks to my encounter with the super dubious racist shit

Yeah, that's a pretty good list. Lots of stuff I love. I'm increasingly regretful of how misrepresentative of my actual top 100 my list became by hewing mostly to what was in Pitchfork's database. No US Maple, no cred.

a hoy hoy - so pleased you're enjoying In Sides.

I'm a big fan of Beaches & Canyons but it does help if you understand a bit about the background and context of that record and Black Dice's transition from deconstructed hardcore band to freeform electronic noize troupe. My favourite track on there is 'Endless Happiness' which has this incredible ocean sound at the end. In fact a lot of the fun of that album comes partly in working out what parts are played, what are sampled and what are generated by synth. It's also very 'imagerous' in its way. A great headphones album.

is it gauche to repost yr own list here?

In the film 'High Fidelity' (2000), a number of scenes which take place in the record store display a US Maple poster attached to the front of the counter. Frontman Al Johnson cameos in the film as an obsessive collector who is repeatedly turned away from buying a particularly rare record (the French import of Safe as Milk by Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band).

rlly their wiki page doesn't make me want to listen to them so much as beefheart but if ever i am open to suggestions - what record do i try OL?

I personally have discovered D'Angelo's 'Voodoo' which sounds fantastic so far - love the juxtaposition between tough(ish) rap and mellower R'n'B and Prince-styled funk.

Speaking of US Maple, I only just checked them out too thanks to a mention somewhere else. Really like it - sort of like if you were to smash Pearl Jam to pieces an then rearrange them in the wrong order with half the pieces missing.

DJP - go for it!

dog latin - tbh the most background i'm gonna get from this is maybe typing a name into wiki, while playing something picked a random because i like a cover or a name. i did like the ocean sounds though! if it was more of that ambient sort of feel, which ok was like a third of the record, i'd enjoy it more.

Also this want to jump in is in part inspired by a bit of rut of not wanting to listen to anything on my ipod again for the 5000th time and by the scott seward videos of crazy looking records that made it feel like there is a whole musical world out there i've never even considered.

oh man dog latin! voodoo was #2 on my list! and he has started touring again this year, if he ever comes back over here I tell you it is a must to see him! that record is a rare one that somehow gets better with EVERY listen too.

https://peopleslist.pitchfork.com/list/a9f386e6/

I don't think there's anything on here willfully obscure that ppl don't already know about aside from my brother's group Poem-Cees, which you can sample on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QQTLYY/ref=dm_sp_alb

I love this album because so much of it is from the perspective of working white-collar middle-class African-America, a voice you don't necessarily hear in hip-hop. Also, the songs veer from the political to the intensely personal to fun party jams pretty seamlessly, with a couple of spoken word pieces by my brother's fellow MC which slay. I personally am a massive fan of "Glasses", "Jay", "Keloid Suite", "Fat White Men In Suits" and "Blah Blah" but really every track on it is great

http://open.spotify.com/album/6hoFOHgdLPXxDdYzqiWE0I

This is an album that narrowly missed my ballot made by a dude in my brother's artistic circle; my brother plays guitar on one track but now I can't remember which one, lol

basically there's a ton of fantastic DC hip-hop being made by ppl in their 40s

Re: US Maple, I'd recommend Talker and Acre Thrills in roughly that order. Purple On Time (the only one in the P4k db) is about as traditional as they get. While it's okay, it also kinda gets away from what I loved about them so much. And as fucked up as their arrangements sometimes got, they replicated the mess perfectly onstage.

I am glad to see the reppin' for D'Angelo. I've dipped my toe in the neo-soul water and like what I've heard okay, but I haven't heard a whole lot (Erykah Badu, Teedra Moses, & Goapele being a few top-notch outliers) that really moves me like the original stuff. So getting a feel for what really works in that scene would be awesome.

I've added it to my list :D

Which btw is getting pretty huge. It is also set so other people can add to it if y'all choose to.

I'm determined to listen to everything on there. It is p much anything that I've not heard and looked intrestng so much of it may be crappy but there is only one way to find out.

http://open.spotify.com/user/sutrarama/playlist/39V9l2MXcBS1t19OF22QBn

http://open.spotify.com/album/2zKOLLaPdOm8gouCwbzkgF

I put 1977 by Ana Tijoux in my top 100 instead of her more recent album, La Bala, which is my favorite album of hers. I couldn't remember if La Bala came out in 2011 or 2012 (and every source I checked kept saying 2012 and not 2011, but it turns out every source was wrong, argh). So this is a link to La Bala, which everyone should listen to.

cheers ol.

i came to d'angelo, erykah, jill scott etc. from the hiphop direction and it has as much in common with the roots/those early rawkus records/common/etc. as it does neo-soul, prince, sly stone etc.

Have to admit I feel a lot more naturally inclined towards the neo soul artists (Goapele, D'Angelo etc), as in when it comes on I sit up and pay attention, than a lot of more general r'n'b. That probably won't earn me many cool points here but despite trying I still don't think I've truly got my head around r'n'b whereas a lot of the artists under the neo soul banner click instantly.

I hope people are moved to try Roisin Murphy's Overpowered, my favorite diva-dance record of the last decade.

Melissa - Wow, wtf is this? French lady hiphop?

Chilean.

xposts re US Maple: Talker seconded. I also really enjoy Long Hair in Three Stages, which I'd put with Purple on Time as their more traditional albums (even though they are at opposite ends of their career and don't sound alike).

Ana Tijoux that's super intriguing, will check out

Alfred: ultimately I dig Roisin Murphy more in the context of Moloko than solo, which is why I picked the first Moloko album and the singles compilation (which btw is one of the best singles comps ever)

Ruby Blue is a great album though, and one I strongly considered for my list

How does a person become a fan of this stuff? This is not meant to be a dicky comment btw, I'm liking the first track. Instead it goes back to the Seward videos, where he was pulling out all these samba records that i've never seen him talk about on ilm* like an expert and i was just fascinated. how does someone get into chilean** ladyhop? i am cool with a dicky READ YR BLOGS esque comment to this btw, as long as someone provides the BLOGS to go with it

*not that i follow people closely, maybe ilv is full of this stuff.
**lol my mind cant really comprehend anything non english and now i feel like a dick

oh shit I didn't realize this album was within the window: http://open.spotify.com/album/18Tc3CrTP3lb8nMJnoRGSK

Hey, I had that Asobi Seksu album on my list! Hurrah!

So far, due to this, I've listened to a Booka Shade album, some Mya and I've discovered that I don't actually dislike Basement Jaxx after all. When I get back to work tomorrow I'm gonna listen to DJP's spotify playlist (or at least the albums I don't already own) and if that's a playlist that Melissa has made up there then that would make me the happiest girl in the world.

Would anyone be the slightest bit interested in a Spotify playlist based on my picks? Probably not...

Assuming you can get over the (occasional) language barrier, I can't recommend Capsule highly enough. Had I done write-ins on my ballot, I would've had probably four or five of their albums on there. They started off as somewhat of a Pizzicato 5 clone (still pretty first-rate, though) and slowly morphed into something more akin to a Japanese Basement Jaxx. They're really one of my top 5 bands from the past decade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLBZRZwiJ5w

les nubians was a group i reaaaaaaally wanted to hear once upon a time (lol the days when talib kweli guest spots had me bugging out at 13 years old) and my local hmv never got their records and by the time i could download i'd forgotten about them. added to the list. :D

wcc did you have schools of seven bells at #1? i think i already grabbed a bunch of things off your list (and i guess the seksu!) on my spotify playlist. but yeah, go ahead posting your own, mine my have become a bit too large.

how does someone get into chilean** ladyhop?

I go out of my way to hear cool stuff by Latina ladies when I hear about it, because I am a cool Latina lady*.

*some may disagree on my relative coolness

Well off this one recommendation, I'll happily agree on the cool Latina lady bit. That said, two foreign language records in a row is taking a toll, I think ima tap out and go get some food. It is a good record though, def. in the re-listen pile. Got that rawkus happy alt-hiphop vibe I used to love, also makes me think of that mercury winning ms dynamite album a lot. party like its 2001?

Yes I had SVIIB at number 1. I have still in the past 15 years, not loved a record on first hearing - and carried on loving it - quite as much as that first SVIIB record.

I love Alpinisms but it didn't have quite the same impact on me as it could have because I head Disconnect From Desire first and dialed directly into "Camarilla" as my platonic ideal of what I loved about the band.

Having said that "Iamundernodisguise" is amazing and a perfect album opener

An album that seemed to be strangely absent from most of the ballots I've seen is that Broadcast/Focus Group album from a few years back. It was astounding to me, even as a fan of Broadcast. One of the few instances (maybe the only instance?) that I agreed with The Wire about the album of the year.

I think SVIIB's albums are all so damn good that whichever one you hear first is going to push that "OMG this is the platonic ideal!" button for someone predisposed towards liking their kind of thing.

x-post I saw that Witch Cults record turn up on several people's lists!

(I voted for the wrong Broadcast record - I realised only after voting closed that I selected The Noise Made By People when I wanted to vote for Work And Non Work. D'oh!)

Witch Cults was on my ballot.

haven't picked up any new stuff out of other people's lists. ariel caralle reminds me that i neglected to consider oneida and zola jesus, which bums me out.

I goofed and left the On! Air! Library! album off my list. Somedays I like it more than Alpinisms, and definitely more than the followups.

Love that Witch Cults album.

I also want to point out the Gus Gus albums on my list, which have both aged spectacularly:

#89 Polydistortion (1997) http://open.spotify.com/album/5fxWFy7VEFTb3i1C8w7MNR
key tracks: "Gun", "Believe", "Why?", "Purple"

#11 This Is Normal (2001) http://open.spotify.com/album/28vsgjXJonjc34Je9HrFb1
key tracks: "Ladyshave", "Teenage Sensation", "Starlovers", "Snoozer"

I strongly considered adding Attention as well but ultimately felt it was too uneven: http://open.spotify.com/album/6FiqDpq028FAsCRQTIZzac
key tracks: "David", "Call of the Wild", "I.I.E."

http://open.spotify.com/album/6kbPC07HWF2QzSi0ZkSSZu - La Llorona by Lhasa de Sela, another cool Latina lady (RIP).

Capsule is also awesome, and were on my list, but not on Spotify, but you will just have to take my word for it and take the plunge on WORLD OF FANTASY.

Funnily enough, I had listened to Gus Gus before (due to stanning from certain quarters on another thread) but didn't feel familiar enough with it to include it.

listening to the Spotify playlist of my ballot on shuffle just had a skit from The Love Below ("Good Day, Good Sir") that ends with the line "Behold, a lady!" segue into "My Superman" by Santigold

xp: that second Gus Gus album is really, really great IMO

Damn, though, Dan, I do wish you would just make a compact list where you pick your fave track from each album, because that is, like, 20 hours of music or something.

dan did you just agree with yr own recommendation?

haha I can do that

in fact, I usually do a mondo EVERYTHING list and then a "personal fave" list, I just didn't because I was actually doing some work

xp: I like to think of it as reinforcing my own recommendation

cheers for listings WCC.

Quick question - what's the most unusual/surprising appearance in the ILM list?

Most ilxors (i.e. niche genre fans excepted) are very happy with ilx poll results, so is it reasonable to expect that most of your standard ordinary non-music writer reader is quite happy with the pitchfork list?

Boredoms placing that high was the biggest surprise for me.

(And also that so many people on ILM still rate B&S, it's odd to see a reappraisal but I suppose it has been quite some time.)

Boredoms have always been really popular on ilm (as they should be)

For me, Belle and Sebastian: I know ILM has historically been a home to B+S fandom but I can't remember the last time I saw them discussed here.

you're just in denial!

I think IYFS probably sits in people's long term affection banks pretty neatly.

B & S and New Order will always be around on ilm

I included it and I wasn't a Sinister import.

I probably wouldn't have included it, but it's odd for me to think of it as being in the time period of the poll. Like, there's such a strict delineation in my life of "when I went back to the UK" (which was 97/98 or thereabouts) that music from before that might as well be from another lifetime. This is completely personal and nothing to do with anything, but it is why I tend to see 97/98 as a kind of time cut-off point, rather than 00/01.

Yeah I don't really listen to VCNS or IYFS that much any more, but I know what a huge impact they had on me at the time and so voted accordingly.

I do wonder how many B&S/New Order (or insert other older bands that are applicable) fans are still on ILM but kinda gave up on new music but still love love love the albums from when they were younger and into music so will for some reason vote?
Not a criticism btw .

WCC - yeah, for me the cut off is probably the same - 1996 and 1998 feel like worlds apart.

95/96 is more my cut off tbh

Thanks foor the lists, WCC!

Just curious, for anyone who helped get the first three Basement Jaxx albums into the top 100 (kudos on that): did you vote for (or do you rate) Scars? Crazy Itch Radio was, I know, kind of a letdown, and I think a lot of fans drifted after that one. But Scars contains several of what are now among my favorite Jaxx songs. Just wonderin', since I don't recall seeing it on ballots other than my own.

lol Basement Jaxx appearing was around the time i moved away from dance music. (never liked them) I had actually typed something about it out but deleted it in my last post.

I definitely have my own lingering nostalgia favourites too - I voted for the first GYBE album even though I haven't listened to it in at least 5 years and I don't think I even have the CD anymore.

yeah i still love those gybe albums

I do wonder how many B&S/New Order (or insert other older bands that are applicable) fans are still on ILM but kinda gave up on new music but still love love love the albums from when they were younger and into music so will for some reason vote?

Probably a load of them jumped off into dance music or pop fandom and stopped paying as much attention to modern indie.

Oh god no, Scars is the one Jaxx album I actively despise.

The song "Scars" is great though

i still love most of the albums i bought actually from back then. The few i didnt i obviously got rid of (like Head Music for example)

I never really made bad purchases thankfully.

xp

Probably a load of them jumped off into dance music or pop fandom and stopped paying as much attention to modern indie.

good point. In the same way i jumped off the dance music bus

thanks for doing the list WCC. although where I can find out what albums were distinctive to estonia?

Just curious, for anyone who helped get the first three Basement Jaxx albums into the top 100 (kudos on that): did you vote for (or do you rate) Scars? Crazy Itch Radio was, I know, kind of a letdown, and I think a lot of fans drifted after that one. But Scars contains several of what are now among my favorite Jaxx songs. Just wonderin', since I don't recall seeing it on ballots other than my own.

― Old Lunch

Voted for Kish Kash, Rooty was one of the last albums I cut from my list. I actually think Crazy Itch Radio is kind of underrated but obviously not in the same league as the first three albums. Scars was their first really weak album. Scars, Feeling Good, Raindrops and Day Of The Sunflowers are the keepers but the rest is pretty poor.

great list.

today i am listening to cut copy's in ghost colours and loving it. i've heard it before though, so its not a new discovery, just another record i forget about easily. (this will change now i've downloaded it and put it on my ipod, along with that platinum pied pipers record)

and when i said great list, what i meant was kudos to wcc for putting the work in.

albums unique to the ILX list:

3 - Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun - 1344
21 - Luomo - Vocalcity - 994
30 - Aaliyah - Aaliyah - 848
33 - Studio - Yearbook 1 - 818
34 - Missy Elliott - Miss E: So Addictive - 814
37 - The-Dream - Love vs. Money - 749
40 - Boredoms - Super Ae - 720
41 - William Basinski - The Disintegration Loops I-IV - 712
42 - Kate Bush - Aerial - 707
50 - Life Without Buildings - Any Other City - 650
51 - Broadcast - The Noise Made by People - 648
56 - Diddy-Dirty Money - Last Train To Paris - 616
59 - Orbital - In Sides - 598
62 - Lightning Bolt - Wonderful Rainbow - 591
64 - Broadcast - Tender Buttons - 586
65 - The-Dream - Love/Hate - 575
68 - Junior Boys - Last Exit - 555
69 - Róisín Murphy - Overpowered - 548
74 - Clipse - Lord Willin' - 502
75 - Maxwell - BLACKsummers'night - 499
76 - Gang Gang Dance - Saint Dymphna - 499
77 - Black Dice - Beaches & Canyons - 489
78 - Andrew W.K. - I Get Wet - 484
81 - Basement Jaxx - Kish Kash - 472
83 - Fall Out Boy - Folie à Deux - 462
84 - Katy B - On a Mission - 462
85 - J Dilla - Donuts - 457
86 - Mark Hollis - Mark Hollis - 456
88 - Electrik Red - How To Be A Lady, Volume 1 - 454
90 - Tortoise - TNT - 448
92 - Lindstrøm & Christabelle - Real Life Is No Cool - 445
93 - Pulp - We Love Life - 442
94 - Sonic Youth - Murray Street - 441
95 - Ricardo Villalobos - Alcachofa - 441
96 - Gas - Pop - 436
97 - Autechre - LP5 - 436
99 - Fennesz - Endless Summer - 430

so, 63% of our top 100 overlaps with the Pitchfork top 200, which indicates to me that as a group we like the same types of things as the Pitchfork constituency with a bias towards album like the ones on the unique list

But when you look at the demographic makeup of the albums that don't overlap (e.g. highest lady/co-ed % content of all the amalgamated lists yet) it shows you what kind of things we pay attention to that they don't?

Now that is a list I can get behind.

xp: yes absolutely, but the ever-shrinking sample size artificially inflates the percentages

Also, notice that there's only one album in the top 20 that doesn't appear on the Pitchfork list, as compared to when you get down into the 80s and 90s, where 14 out of those 20 albums are unique to us; the implication is that the general consensus is building around the same types of albums, and as you go further down the list, you start running into albums with a few passionate boosters (which can be a noticeable effect in this small a ballot pool) or albums that a bunch of people "like" rather than "love" (although I am not sure if there were enough ballots in our sample size to support this hypothesis; I need to scroll back up to the unweighted list to verify)

Basically, I think there is absolutely a difference in values when it comes to evaluating music shown on this board, but not so different that it makes us a universe apart from the Pitchfork nexus (also unsurprising considering how many writers who have been published by Pitchfork have gone through and helped shape ILX into the community it is).

The major thing I'm not taking into account is the natural bias the Pitchfork poll enforced upon album selection by offering up a database of all of the albums they reviewed; this would be an interesting exercise to do just using the AMG or discogs.com database to see how the end result would change without that implicit bias.

xp: yes absolutely, but the ever-shrinking sample size artificially inflates the percentages

I don't actually think so. Because shrunk sample sizes of the drill downs on Pitchfork didn't produce inflation in the same way.

I mean, not that there aren't passionate boosters affecting the ILX taste. There are. But we have passionate boosters who are willing to stan on stuff outside the SWM demographic. But whatever, belabouring a point.

I think that's a restatement of what I said in my second paragraph, actually! The initial playing field is very Pitchforky, but as you go down the list more idiosyncratic choices that reflect the ILX cant start emerging.

The major thing I'm not taking into account is the natural bias the Pitchfork poll enforced upon album selection by offering up a database of all of the albums they reviewed; this would be an interesting exercise to do just using the AMG or discogs.com database to see how the end result would change without that implicit bias.

For sure. Like I said in the other thread, I put together a ballot basically so my brother and I could compare lists, and I favored the aesthetics of having album covers present over contributing an uncompromised ballot (and to be perfectly honest witchoo, I didn't even realize that this whole exercise was for an actual poll until after I'd already completed my ballot). So, yeah, my legit ballot would look way, way different.

Thanking u v v much for the list, WCC. And thanking everyone for this even-tempered thread.

So have been working my way thru' the Top 20 of emil.y's list, mainly because the majority of her whole list was entirely unfamiliar to me.

Comet Gain and Herman Düne have cheered me greatly. Matmos and Tarwater I liked a whole lot as well.

I'm not sure what to make of Paavoharju, I keep going back to it but I'm not sure that I could be said to enjoy it. It's a bit beyond me I think.

Have just dipped a toe outside the Top 20 and Eleanoora Rosenholm is doing it for me right now. I think this may have come up on the EOY poll? Not sure.

Yeah, me and a few others were repping for Eleanoora Rosenholm. Was actually introduced to them by Algerian Goalie, and am very grateful. They're something of a concept band, but it isn't obvious to non-Finnish speakers.

Also, I'm greatly flattered that you're listening to my list!

I need to check into Eleonoora Rosenholm one day... That track Kerr used to play in Outloud was pretty cool. Too bad you don't get the lyrics, they were funny.

About halfway through Orchestra of Bubbles by Ellen Allien & Apparat. I think I love this? idk I don't really have anything to frame it in or compare, so I may do a bit of reading.

Paavoharju's second album Laulu Laakson Kukista is also great by the way, even contains some relatively pop moves.

tempted to put together a list for this posthumously

why because bored.

only listened to the first two luomo records the past 12 hours

thank you crucial people who put vocalcity and the present lover on your lists

it's interesting to compare the p4rk and ILX top 100 lists mostly because they're not so terribly different. ILX is a good deal more inclusive of female and nonwhite artists, which is great, but musically the main difference is that p4rk skews towards indie rock, while ILX skews towards electronic music, pop, rap and R&B. makes me wish i were more fond of those genres...

i mean i like rap and some pop, but my primary interests draw me in other directions.

Listening to Dagger Paths by Forest Swords. This, again, ticks the boxes of something I'm totally down with but don't know enough about or when it would grab me to listen again. It's fascinating though. A kind of dubby indie vocal less Gang Gang Dance type of thing?

only listened to the first two luomo records the past 12 hours

thank you crucial people who put vocalcity and the present lover on your lists

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:24 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

incredible albums btw

only listened to the first two luomo records the past 12 hours

Such fantastic recs. I absolutely love 'em.

holy crap the thing tuomas picked at #1. this is so crazy beautiful.

It's amazing, isn't it? Probably my favourite techno album of the 90s, it's so timeless and evocative.

it was one of the best things i've heard recently. i've been making a list of things i need to download from this and relisten to, it has gone to the top of my list.

i've been trying to listen to one or two records from the spotify playlist i made a day

saturday i found out i like some noisy blues band called califone. listened to some decent but forgettable alt hiphop, that brand new record i knew i liked but never spent time with, some other things that didn't grab me. this morning i listened to the chemical brothers 'come with us' because of dans list. i'd only ever heard a greatest hits. it was good! a lot less 'lol we really like tomorrow never knows' than i remember them being, so i really enjoyed it.