LUPE FIASCO.·:*¨¨*:·.ASAP ROCKY.·:*¨¨*:·.CHIEF KEEF

slightly embarrassed that the only one of these who's ever made a song i really really love is lupe fiasco (only the one song though)

a$ap rocky has a decent grasp of what he does and it's something i can get into in a very specific mood but he's reeeeealllly not a good rapper

chief keef is just boring, don't hear anything noteworthy either way there at all

given these options, I'm going Lupe

Tempted to vote Lupe just for 'Heirplanes', clearly the best thing he will ever do.

Prefer ASAP mixtape over Keef by a tiny margin, but will go with Keef 'cos I'm more interested in what he'll do next than the other two.

voted keef, best accompaniment for craft beer

Prefer ASAP mixtape over Keef by a tiny margin, but will go with Keef 'cos I'm more interested in what he'll do next than the other two.

this seems correct

what are some other famous aspie rappers besides Chief Keef?

aspie rocky

lupe fiaspo

lol

I don't really think Keef will "do" much outside of perhaps pumping out a couple of more underground bangers worth our time. I Don't Like and 3Hunna are more exciting than anything the other guys have done this year though.

A$AP is currently at a stage where just about every critic is tired of him - while his audience is growing every day. I'd say there's at least a small chance that he'll be making some good music a couple of years from now. We'll see. He'll need some songs though.

Lupe's days are over. He has crossed a certain line and these days his very presence is painful. I'll probably never enjoy a Lupe song again. But between F&L and The Cool he has made more great music than either of the other two guys are likely to make in their lives.

Take that as you will.

ILX (deej I think) pointing out that every ASAP song has a slowed down basso profundo dude chorus almost killed him for me.

Agreed "I Don't Like" and "3Hunna" are best of anything.

"Lupe's days are over."

Dogg, his record sales go up every time even though the record industry is crashing

Yeah, that's pretty crazy since just about everybody hated Lasers. I don't know how to explain that really.

But seeing as he's now trying to revert to an older style in order to please the fans who hated his "experimental" phase, I'd say that his days as a musical force (which I think he was, briefly, around the time of The Cool) is over.

*are

its almost like there's some disconnect between our circle of the internet and what people actually listen to

posts that effortlessly...

Agreed "I Don't Like" and "3Hunna" are best of anything.

they don't remotely come close to the effortless standard i expect from rap bangers

completely fucking basic and unmemorable

bang bang

lex also dislikes rich forever

ASAP is the worst to me, GQ fashion plate w/ 3-4 good songs

Lupe has the better catalog than Keef, although obv a decade lead time helps out in that case. I think Keef is probably one of the most exciting new rappers out right now, and although he has a spottier hit rate than other guys in his scene when he cuts through it feels like a ~big deal~, like despite like durk's record more or thinking a dude like Ice Burgandy (from LA) has a more consistent record, or thinking that Feva has released MORE good songs this year, or that Gucci is still making consistent music, Keef's biggest tracks feel like much more major & impactful records to me

also what lagoon said about the craft beer, except its artisinal beer.

lupe's new stuff is pretty weak & as a lyricist he could really use an editor. i think his strength is actually not where he thinks his strength is. he's good at building sympathy w/ emotionally direct appeals cf "hip hop saved my life" & that time he did a version of anthony hamilton's "comin from where I'm From"

ASAP ... dude is like a fashion mag editor's idea of what a rapper is supposed to be. I just can't connect w/ it, it feels like a dude playing rapper dress-up.

despite *liking* durk's record more

also i dont feel like asap has much of a sense for pop immediacy or hooks or any of that.

completely fucking basic and unmemorable

― lex pretend, Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:21 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this kind of discussion is like when you were saying the durk tape had no hooks, if its clear many people disagree with your description of the record purely on the objective facts of it, even those who might share your subjective take on the tape's quality. its not like someone made these songs happen through some kind of tinfoil hat conspiracy, they spread pretty damn organically because people found them memorable. you cant just will things to be different than they are.

im thinking 'exciting' probably sounds like too much of a ... idk trivialization or whatever, but his music --i used the word 'cuts' i think thats p apt, it really has a visceral pull that feels unmatched & ime that tends to drive street rap's direction, so i guess its not just keef's next moves that interest me, but how rap responds to him

completely fucking basic and unmemorable

― lex pretend, Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:21 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think the basic nature of it is what makes it memorable

smh @ even arguing in this "thread" BUT the idea that "i don't like" is unmemorable really is something i can't comprehend -- & i'm not even saying bcuz i think the song is awesome, but i've seen so many times irl people that don't even listen to rap reciting/singing/talking about that song. that hook is just instant, completely & totally. (which in of itself doesn't mean the song is great, but just saying)

like i think 99% of people who don't even like the song would a. at least admit that the hook is memorable b. argue that they don't like the song because the hook is so "memorable" in a basic/instant way

this thread prompted me to listen to listen to "I Don't Like" and basically my reaction is "you have got to be fucking kidding me"

this is like 3rd-tier Turquoise Jeep

Hey, it works.

ok i'm relistening to "i don't like" and the hook is...existent, i guess? but it's so dreary, it's a terrible hook and the whole song just draaaaaaags boringly. WHY ARE HIP-HOP AND R&B SO SLOW THIS YEAR? I cannot move to this. the verses are the same as the hook and nothing happens, it's like a really really shit soulja boy song (and i have a lot of affection for soulja boy) (like TURN MY SWAG ON, that is what i expect of a rap banger). his voice is so whatever. he could literally be anyone.

i'm not interested in the "but he's popular" argument. lots of boring people get popular.

HARD IN DA PAINT. NO HANDS. GOOD FUCKING NIGHT. NIGGAS IN PARIS. 212. MONEY ON THE FLOOR. BEAM. Those songs are what I expect from rap bangers.

kinda mad at how's life for breaking the seal on goon versions of CCR vs. Rush vs. Ween type polls

llupe

Actually keef brings a new style : this way of rapping verses like it is a hook while being very pissed off but letting the anger only come out through his voice and restraining it.

This seems like a logical development from waka's style.

You can see tons of clones coming up as of late (asap ferg on work).

i'm not interested in the "but he's popular" argument. lots of boring people get popular.

― lex pretend, Thursday, August 30, 2012 5:45 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah sometimes they post a whole lot too

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6960fmvqH1rqfhi2o1_500.gif

keep me out of the whiney/deej beefs plz

Actually keef brings a new style : this way of rapping verses like it is a hook while being very pissed off but letting the anger only come out through his voice and restraining it.

This seems like a logical development from waka's style.

You can see tons of clones coming up as of late (asap ferg on work).

― sisilafami, Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:49 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah he def has a genuinely original style. people can become better technicians but finding people who rap just like themselves w/out biting or being overly technical, is what makes him stand out, for sure.

i've found lex's taste in rap music to have been pretty retarded this year, like ytf would anyone want "i don't like" to sound more like "niggas in paris" ?

i don't think it needs to sound more like anything. if anything i'd prefer it sounded less like the billion other songs w/ lex luger hi-hats out there, i don't really get much unique out of it.

even as far as post-luger stuff goes i think that beat is pretty unique

its p evidently in the lineage of luger production, i dont think its pretending to more than that. just an exceptional song w/in that vein

yeah i can see that. just hasn't really hooked me, i dunno.

yeah the real hook is the chime melody

not that the style is unique but it's great

xxxp agreed. it's the incessant repetition of a rather singular melody that makes it stand out. and keef's style just enhances it.

a sample of what?

a song

i dunno just doesn't sound sampled imo, would never have occurred to me

young chop is far from being a lex luger ripoff imo, his beats are more melodic and the rolling snares are usually a bit faster and longer in duration. Luger is def chop's main influence but he's not a copycat.

someone should sit him down & tell him that merely naming fashion designers does not actually constitute "rapping"

― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Thursday, August 30, 2012 5:09 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

or fashion

well i always thought lex's sound was pretty strongly prefigured by shawty redd, drumma boy etc. but i was really just using "lex luger" as shorthand for the facets of that sound that everyone identifies with him (xpost)

that's what influences are, we could go back to larry smith.

chop has a lot more of a diverse sound than ppl realize given 'i dont like'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e0Z6x3ty-g

fwiw i didn't call him a copycat, i will say no more about the unique snowflake that is young chop

"i don't like" makes it's hot 100 debut this week

I Don't Like could still need some mastering. Even the iTunes version sounds off.

^

Big time, one of my biggest problems with it all.

life?

I Don't Like could still need some mastering. Even the iTunes version sounds off.

― insane in my mansplain (longneck), Thursday, August 30, 2012 5:28 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

get it off the lil reese tape

yes xp, life.

O yeah that sounds much better.

i actually like that asap rocky track, except for the chorus, which is brutal

Cant stand the way he raps, at all. His hooks are consistently blah.

i actually like that asap rocky track, except for the chorus, which is brutal

― heiswagger (rennavate), Thursday, August 30, 2012 5:48 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah the reason i singled that one out is cuz i actually f/w the beat on it

its def reminding me of something else though

spaceghostpurpp?

The one from the Reese tape does sound better. Thanks a lot.

lol i immediately deleted that version when i downloaded the tape -- anyone wanna up it for me?

No problem:
http://www.sharebeast.com/dwikv31xjp7h

i realised when i was out tonight that no rap banger can outdo this in 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAifiH_r-KA

everything about that beat and that song hits the spot so much for me

aside from the absolute bangers keef can potentially produce i really prefer his chicago contemporaries. rocky's mixtape is good and he'll undoubtedly crank out a few more hits but nothing that really wows me.

that said i don't see either of them making a better project than the cool.

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powerful stuff

imagine if azealia banks had been in this poll

9 of you need to be super embarrassed

i think you mean 24

keef is definitely the most defensible choice in 2012

I mean obviously, I'd be less embarrassed to diarrhea myself on a crowded elevator than be caught listening to 30 seconds of "Lasers," but c'mon as career artists go, there's ca. 2006 Lupe Fiasco stuff that completely murders anything Chief Keef is doing

I am reasonably certain that "Ring Around The Rosie" completely murders "I Don't Like"

lmao

don't be fuckin with my young'uns
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Ring-a-round-a_rosesSmith.jpg

black death is way harder than chicago's crime rate

was just thinking that.

Bubonic plague, that's that shit I don't like.

lol

itt everyone is jonathan davis

lupe keef beef

lol i'm glad mtv has my back on the visual similarity

http://images2.mtv.com/shared/promoimages/bands/f/fiasco_lupe/lupe_chief/281x211.jpg?width=281&height=211

hahahaha

Lupe looks like the missing link between Ice-T and Chief Keef.

I am reasonably certain that "Ring Around The Rosie" completely murders "I Don't Like"

― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Monday, September 3, 2012 7:46 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfXENVVtxB4

welp

hahahah

lol

okay lol