Books about Brazilian Music

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I'm amazed there hasn't already been such a thread... so here goes:

I'm looking for English-language books about Brazilian music (German language also welcome). In particular something (readable) about Bossa Nova would be nice. I've already read the following:

Claus Schreiner - _Musica Brasileira_ --- fairly good, but a bit too unjudgemental. It's just matter of fact, straight forward. Gives a good background on varied styles, but doesn't help in navigating anything interesting (without extended effort).

Chris McGowan / Ricard Pessanha - _The Brazilian Sound_ --- again fairly academic. But useful.

Caetano Veloso - _Tropical Truth_ --- Quite nicely written, though severely lacking in a full-book approach. Still quite informative and a good read.

Ruy Castro - _Boss Nova_ --- This seems like it could be the most informative English-language book on Bossa Nova, yet it reads like it's written by Uncle Leo and is the worst fucking thing I've ever tried to slog through. At the moment I've only made it through a handful of chapters. It's just that annoying. Someone needs to edit it into something possible to read. I cringe at the thought of opening it again, and yet I really want to absorb the knowledge contained inside it.

DanielGr, Saturday, 15 September 2012 03:47 (thirteen years ago)

If you like album covers:
http://static.booko.com.au/images/covers/1/4/7/1/9780955481741.jpg

late adopter, Saturday, 15 September 2012 04:17 (thirteen years ago)

Those are the ones I know of. So you've gone through all the Brazilian threads here? Here are 2 of 'em:

bossa nova: S&D

Brazilian Music

curmudgeon, Saturday, 15 September 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

Christopher Dunn - Brutality Garden: Tropicalia and the Emergence of a Brazilian Counterculture

A bit dry, but loads of good information.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 15 September 2012 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

Is this Christopher Dunn book about music? I thought it was mostly about visual art?

I'm not interested in a coffee table book of album covers --- history. Well-told history that doesn't just skim the surface. The Ruy Castro book is incredibly detailed, it's just painful to read since it's so poorly written.

I've looked through all the Brazilian threads. I'm kinda surprised that the interest/knowledge of Brazilian music displayed here in the past is fairly superficial. Was there not a thread where people discussed how they didn't recognize more than a few names on the Brazilian Rolling Stone's top 100 Brazilian records? But again... I'm looking for books, not threads. I can't read a thread on my morning commute.

DanielGr, Sunday, 16 September 2012 10:53 (thirteen years ago)

Sorry no one knowledgeable enough has posted here for you

curmudgeon, Sunday, 16 September 2012 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

The Dunn book is about music, politics, art, etc. It talks about the conditions that spawned Tropicalia, it's brief flourish, and immediate aftermath.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 16 September 2012 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

There are some decent reviews out there if you want more detail.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 16 September 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

Are you really that surprised Daniel? Is it really so strange?

POLLed Turkey Has Got Me (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 September 2012 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

It's a little strange given the sheer amount of genres in Brazilian music, the large output, and that they are genres that are popular amongst record collectors as badges of coolness.

DanielGr, Monday, 17 September 2012 03:41 (thirteen years ago)

This thesis is surprisingly informative:
http://wesscholar.wesleyan.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1497&context=etd_hon_theses

You Can't Be Too RONG (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 September 2012 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

I totally dug the Ruy Castro book myself, don't get the "poorly written" complaint

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 September 2012 23:00 (thirteen years ago)

I wonder if it improved on translation. Did you read it in Portuguese, Daniel?

You Can't Be Too RONG (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 22 September 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

Ha

curmudgeon, Saturday, 22 September 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

No... I figure it's probably OK in Portuguese. I'm reading it English. It gets a bit better towards the middle, but is still full of awful writing. "And who do you think walked through the door? Why, it was Joao Gilberto. And what do you think he was holding in his hand? A guitar! And he played it!"

DanielGr, Sunday, 30 September 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

four months pass...

Chris McGowan / Ricard Pessanha - _The Brazilian Sound_ --- again fairly academic. But useful.

Tend to think of the description of the word "academic" in isolation as a bit of a putdown, indicating that the book might be a fixup of publish or perish papers that ultimate disappoints the general reader. This book is academic in the sense that it seems like it could be used for a good Undergraduate class on the topic, or even a high school class, and is published by a university press. I just got a hold of a library copy and finding that it is written and clear and lively style with lots of pictures and tons of useful biographical information about the musicians and composers and historical information about the styles. I think I need to get my own copy.

A book that hasn't been mentioned yet on this thread is Hello, Hello Brazil: Popular Music in the Making of Modern Brazil, bu Bryan McCann, which I recently got. This actually is a little more academic in that it has a thesis to promote, an interesting one, about how Brazilian music, particularly samba is intimately connected with a sense of Brazilian identity, and how various parties, including intellectuals, the Brazilian state and of course the songwriters interacted to impose their idea of what samba and therefore "Brazilianness" meant. Along the way there are very detailed well-presented discussions of how various songs were written and became popular. Have only read about a third of it, but recommend it highly.

Listicle Traces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 February 2013 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

nine months pass...

Did any New Yorkers here see author Dunn talk at NYU Monday the 11th?

I see that in addition to Brutality Garden, Dunn is co-editor with Charles Perrone of Brazilian Popular Music and Globalization (Routledge, 2001) and co-editor with Idelber Avelar of Brazilian Popular Music and Citizenship (Duke UP, 2011).

curmudgeon, Thursday, 14 November 2013 18:50 (twelve years ago)

No, didn't even know about it. I can see if anyone I know went.

Pazz & Jop 1280 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 14 November 2013 19:13 (twelve years ago)

It was a part of this apparently under-publicized series of ongoing Monday night lectures at NYU

http://clacs.as.nyu.edu/object/clacs.events.colloquium

curmudgeon, Thursday, 14 November 2013 19:36 (twelve years ago)

Wow. That whole series looks good.

Pazz & Jop 1280 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 14 November 2013 19:44 (twelve years ago)

nine years pass...

Can’t remember which thread it was on, but a recent discussion inspired me to finally get a hold of Bryan McCann’s 33 1/3 Getz/Gilberto book, and it is almost freaking me out how good it is, a straight shot to the pleasure center, exceeding my already high expectations going in, given the subject and the author. In addition to everything else it is often very funny, I have laughed out loud several times.

Beatles in My Passway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 9 April 2023 10:53 (two years ago)

Book about Clube da Esquina looks good too.

Beatles in My Passway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 10 April 2023 13:10 (two years ago)

Which is written by this guy, who has another book coming out soon, expanding on the topic to include the whole state of Minas Gerais.

https://www.jgrassemusic.com/

Beatles in My Passway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 10 April 2023 13:27 (two years ago)

Need to add those to my already long list of books I need to get and read

curmudgeon, Monday, 10 April 2023 17:57 (two years ago)

This article by Alt Rock Chick put me off reading it, though she concedes that his research is excellent. xp

The true speed of Billy Joel (Deflatormouse), Monday, 10 April 2023 18:22 (two years ago)

Also the spelling of his name always makes me think of an endurance contest in which all the participants are named Jonathan.

The true speed of Billy Joel (Deflatormouse), Monday, 10 April 2023 18:25 (two years ago)

because of the thing about the bus?

Beatles in My Passway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 10 April 2023 18:55 (two years ago)

oh, she gives the impression that his style is annoyingly effusive and uncritical- i'm not into that.

the list of records that have meant as much to me as Clube da Esquina is extremely short. it might be my favorite album, it might be the best 'pop' album ever made if such a thing exists. but it's rough and loose and doesn't try to be perfect. it seems weird to approach it as, like, this flawless masterpiece. it's the anti-flawless masterpiece.

hoonja doonja love me anymore (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 11 April 2023 19:59 (two years ago)

Ah, well said.

Beatles in My Passway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 11 April 2023 20:03 (two years ago)

I just like that he is focused on Minas and not on some of the other usual places.

Beatles in My Passway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 11 April 2023 20:15 (two years ago)

hmm. on the one hand some of the Grasse excerpts in that ARC article are unappealingly florid, but on the other the ARC writer says some weird stuff herself. I was scratching my head at this:

I think Grasse cops out in his description of this song as “an ode to psychedelia.” The term “psychedelic” suffers from serious overuse, imprecisely applied to any music from the era that contains weird sounds. The piece certainly has the surrealistic touch that provided much of the gloss in psychedelic music, but the tonal qualities are closer to avant-garde jazz than Country Joe & The Fish and the combined impact of the gaggle of sounds and contra-rhythms are more suited to an experimental film soundtrack than FM radio.

rob, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 20:44 (two years ago)

three months pass...

Yesterday realized that I have more than a few books on this subject at this point, some of which I have even read.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 July 2023 16:05 (two years ago)

Modern Brazil - s/d

Another Brazil thread (but I didn't confirm whether it discusses books)

curmudgeon, Monday, 17 July 2023 04:56 (two years ago)

Ruy Castro's bossa nova book is great, still need to track down the one he has on samba-canção.

There's two volumes of Lindo Sonho Delirante, covering Brazilian psych record by record. Not in depth but fun.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 17 July 2023 09:00 (two years ago)

Read that first Ruy Castro book didn’t know about the second. He also wrote a book about Garrincha, I believe, but that’s a different topic.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 17 July 2023 12:09 (two years ago)

Don't know if the second ever got translated tbf.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 17 July 2023 12:57 (two years ago)

Am getting a little more ambitious about reading in Portuguese these days so...

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 17 July 2023 13:20 (two years ago)

This book of his Ele é carioca looks good.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 17 July 2023 13:24 (two years ago)

RIP JOAO DONATO
the greatest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjUqVGNd_08

fpsa, Monday, 17 July 2023 13:31 (two years ago)

Oh no! That album rules.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 17 July 2023 13:39 (two years ago)


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