December 3! I couldn't possibly be more excited.
― whiter than... this? (Ówen P.), Monday, 24 September 2012 03:07 (thirteen years ago)
Pretty sure the last one has pipped "Scott 3" as my fave at this point, so... bring on the "Bish Bosch" already!
― mr.raffles, Monday, 24 September 2012 03:16 (thirteen years ago)
yay!
― Dominique, Monday, 24 September 2012 04:40 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.brobible.com/files/archive/images/buzz/chris-bosh-crying.jpg
― wood grain, chestnut / cody, CHESNUTT (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 24 September 2012 06:18 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.thewire.co.uk/images/artists/walker__scott/Bish_Bosh.jpg
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Monday, 24 September 2012 11:47 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.hazelmchaffie.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/alan.jpghttp://positivebusinessdevelopment.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/delboy.jpg
― a great poke for Jet Set Willy (snoball), Monday, 24 September 2012 11:50 (thirteen years ago)
Please that be the cover.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 24 September 2012 11:53 (thirteen years ago)
Greatest album title since Kish Kash.
― controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Monday, 24 September 2012 12:10 (thirteen years ago)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6c/Kris_kross.jpg
― a great poke for Jet Set Willy (snoball), Monday, 24 September 2012 12:12 (thirteen years ago)
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02177/PF-loadsamoney_2177214b.jpg
― passive-aggressive display name (aldo), Monday, 24 September 2012 12:43 (thirteen years ago)
http://www-4.toolbox.co.uk/bosch-gsb16re-impact-hammer-drill-750w-00103584M.jpg
― a great poke for Jet Set Willy (snoball), Monday, 24 September 2012 12:46 (thirteen years ago)
http://toomanysebastians.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/boing.png
― a great poke for Jet Set Willy (snoball), Monday, 24 September 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)
http://jobryantnz.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/batmantext.jpg
http://itsbashy.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/bish-bash-bosh.jpg
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Monday, 24 September 2012 13:00 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.1worlddecor.com/images/MW/mw-garden-earthly-delights-bosch.jpg
― willem, Monday, 24 September 2012 13:03 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.signdepot.co.uk/images/menus_gallery/menu2.jpg
― mike t-diva, Monday, 24 September 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)
The winner.
(got any crisps?)
― Mark G, Monday, 24 September 2012 13:33 (thirteen years ago)
http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/1927362237/pish_posh_avitar.png
― whiter than... this? (Ówen P.), Monday, 24 September 2012 13:42 (thirteen years ago)
Posh Bosch
― Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Monday, 24 September 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)
Do we reckon on this one that he'll be punchign washing machines instead of pig carcasses, then?
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 24 September 2012 15:07 (thirteen years ago)
Sounds on the record include machetes, finger snaps, rams horns and BJ Cole on Hawaiian pedal steel.
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Monday, 24 September 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)
'sandwiches, baguettes and tortilla wraps' i hate these places
― human centipede hz (thomp), Monday, 24 September 2012 15:11 (thirteen years ago)
be glad they don't add 'paninis and ciabattas' i guess
all those different ways of wrapping up the same unimaginative boring fillings
― syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 September 2012 15:13 (thirteen years ago)
hang on, that could be an ILM thread
neti pot, kumbyana, um...
― Mark G, Monday, 24 September 2012 15:13 (thirteen years ago)
And we have website:
http://www.bishbosch.com/
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 September 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)
I love stuff like this:
For an example of Scott’s unorthodox songwriting techniques, take the album’s centrepiece, the twenty minute ‘SDSS1416 + 13B (Zercon, A Flagpole Sitter)’. The title contains two brown dwarves: one, the coldest sub-stellar body in the universe discovered so far; the other, Zercon, was a real-life Moorish jester at the fifth century court of Attila the Hun.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:00 (thirteen years ago)
yesssssssss
― free-range chicken pox (Matt P), Monday, 24 September 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)
i am soooooooooooo excited for this
― free-range chicken pox (Matt P), Monday, 24 September 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)
Fuck me at that song title.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 24 September 2012 16:05 (thirteen years ago)
waow that description has me mad with want.
― Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Monday, 24 September 2012 16:07 (thirteen years ago)
Not totally comfortable here with a Moorish jester being called a 'brown dwarf'
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Monday, 24 September 2012 16:17 (thirteen years ago)
loool r u serious
― free-range chicken pox (Matt P), Monday, 24 September 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)
I guess? Haven't read the whole press release though, so maybe I'm misinterpreting what it's saying
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Monday, 24 September 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)
that is so much like a thing a person would write if they were trying to send up the sort of thing he does
― human centipede hz (thomp), Monday, 24 September 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)
on the other hand so do neutral uninflected descriptions of a lot of the things he does
Dude has a sense of humour
― whiter than... this? (Ówen P.), Monday, 24 September 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/98/RedDwarfShipOriginal.jpg/250px-RedDwarfShipOriginal.jpg
― a great poke for Jet Set Willy (snoball), Monday, 24 September 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)
Hehe, I love it when people like Whiney think they deserve an award for pre-emptively not liking something.
goldstar.gif
― some white dude (Turangalila), Monday, 24 September 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)
anyway I love this “I was thinking about making the title refer to a mythological, all-encompassing, giant woman artist.” Scott Walker
― some white dude (Turangalila), Monday, 24 September 2012 16:39 (thirteen years ago)
His gooniness is its own reward
― whiter than... this? (Ówen P.), Monday, 24 September 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)
― human centipede hz (thomp), Monday, September 24, 2012 9:23 AM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
<3
― free-range chicken pox (Matt P), Monday, 24 September 2012 16:59 (thirteen years ago)
Great - really can't wait for this. His last two albums have been unofficial late night Christmas soundtracks for me over the last few years, so this is perfect timing really
― This Is... The Police (dog latin), Monday, 24 September 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)
I can't wait for Scott's take on "Paranoia paranoia everybody's coming to get me!"
― Mark G, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:43 (thirteen years ago)
Hieronymous Bosch' "Garden of Earthly Delights" - I called it :-)
― willem, Monday, 24 September 2012 18:48 (thirteen years ago)
Yes though the lovely thing is he imagines this 50FT Queenie version of Hieronymus.
― some white dude (Turangalila), Monday, 24 September 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)
‘SDSS1416 + 13B (Zercon, A Flagpole Sitter)’
humina humina humina
http://takemystockplease.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/ralph_kramden.jpg
― Hadrian VIII, Monday, 24 September 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)
Sterzing was a total bolthole.
― Hadrian VIII, Monday, 24 September 2012 19:27 (thirteen years ago)
incredible titles!
Corps De Blah 'See You Don't Bump His Head'
!!!
― jed_, Monday, 24 September 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)
how the dwarf got brown
― son of telegram sam (Edward III), Thursday, 24 January 2013 15:55 (twelve years ago)
I still haven't gotten this album but i think i will soon, this lyric discussion is fascinating.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 24 January 2013 15:55 (twelve years ago)
Anyone know what these refer to:
AdopocereMaman Neigho
?
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 24 January 2013 16:00 (twelve years ago)
Right - that makes sense - it's sort of how I was seeing the earlier ones, the "the red light where you work", "you should get an agent" stuff - but then it's (Zercon-imagined) bog graffiti by the time you get to "flush hard, it's a long way to Athens", "do not eat the big pink mint".
I will listen to that interview when I get in, it sounds informative if I am going down this rabbithole.
― woof, Thursday, 24 January 2013 16:01 (twelve years ago)
(multi xps to Tom that)
the "big pink mint" is a toilet freshener!?!?!
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 24 January 2013 16:03 (twelve years ago)
YES
― woof, Thursday, 24 January 2013 16:04 (twelve years ago)
woof, you're the bwast!
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 24 January 2013 16:04 (twelve years ago)
I think it's a 'Norseman are thick savages' gag about a toilet freshener.
― woof, Thursday, 24 January 2013 16:05 (twelve years ago)
The 'flush hard' joke is ummmm, either saying 'greeks are shits' or thinking about it some more, 'greeks are homosexuals & likely to be found in your bottom'.
― woof, Thursday, 24 January 2013 16:06 (twelve years ago)
Or saying that Athens is a cesspit
― Designated Striver (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 January 2013 16:08 (twelve years ago)
From Wiki:
Adipocere (pron.: /ˈædɨpɵsɪər/), also known as corpse, grave or mortuary wax, is a wax-like organic substance formed by the anaerobic bacterial hydrolysis of fat in tissue, such as body fat in corpses. In its formation, putrefaction is replaced by a permanent firm cast of fatty tissues, internal organs and the face.
Adipocere in a zoot...? There are a lot of musical and lyrical references to late-40s/early-50s pop culture throughout Epizootics!. I kind of imagine it as West Side Story as viewed by someone who's having an extremely bad trip.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 24 January 2013 16:11 (twelve years ago)
West Side Story South Pacific
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 24 January 2013 16:12 (twelve years ago)
Not an answer to dog latin's question, but I've just learned from Google that there's a racehorse with the charming name "Neigh O Me".
― questino (seandalai), Thursday, 24 January 2013 16:12 (twelve years ago)
Other searches on the family name "Neigho" throws up... nothing much other than it's an ancient name.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 24 January 2013 16:15 (twelve years ago)
wasn't she eventually buried at the bottom of the pillar when she died?
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:48 AM (5 hours ago)
buried alive actually, the bastard still didn't come down
― a sock of regals (Edward III), Thursday, 24 January 2013 18:13 (twelve years ago)
The Alfredo Garcia cameo in "Epizootics!" makes me very happy altho I have no idea what it's doing there
― castle grayscale (wins), Thursday, 31 January 2013 22:55 (twelve years ago)
I pretty much assumed that this album would be my automatic BEST OF DECADE just based on the trailer + "Epizootics!" & the fact that I'm a massive scott stan (listened to the drift nearly every day for like a year after it came out). And then the release date came & I heard it and I just couldn't help feeling deflated, like yeah this is brilliant but none of the songs really get to me the way eg "clara" or "farmer in the city" do.
Happily I'm revising this position & now think that "zercon" especially is one of the most affecting things he's done. The central metaphor, though oblique, is just so elegant & moving: zercon moving to higher & higher peaks (across multiple eras/spaces) in order to escape his circumstances, but of course he can't, and even when he ascends to space he's still a dwarf and the universe is still cold & cruel & unfeeling - Walker's said in interviews that at the beginning of the song zercon is getting "heckled by silence", which is some kinda bergman-level angst right there. At its core it's not a zillion miles away from the 60s character pieces - poor zercon, like big louise, is looking for (fire) escapes in the sky.
I mean I wouldn't really claim to know what's ~going on~ in the song at all times but it seems to be "about" different kinds of human cruelty & the ways people have of coping with them. Hence the many references to past racisms &c. Zercon's defensive strategy against the society that treats him like shit is to give as good as he gets (all the classic putdowns at the start of the song); later, he just withdraws & withdraws until there's nothing left & he "drop[s] into the darkness" (this is how you disappear). The responses to heckles in the last part of the song aren't randomly chosen, they all point towards complete effacement: "I want to forget you just the way you are", "I think you've got nothing there","I hope your face clears up".
This is why I can't get with complaints about the humour - even the funny lines on this album aren't just there for the lolz. Plus there's always been humour in scott's work - on the drift he actually bursts out laughing ffs!
― castle grayscale (wins), Thursday, 31 January 2013 23:41 (twelve years ago)
Brilliant post wins
― dog latin, Friday, 1 February 2013 01:09 (twelve years ago)
Another thought I had:
ROOMFULLAMICEROOMFULLAMICEROOMFULLAMICEROOMFULLAMICE
― ☯ t (wins), Thursday, 7 February 2013 00:49 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6AjaS1adwk8
I laughed.
― On Being Blue (Da Ba Dee): A Philosophical Inquiry (wins), Monday, 11 February 2013 23:19 (twelve years ago)
Hmm!
http://pitchfork.com/news/50048-scott-walkers-bish-bosch-becoming-multimedia-show-for-vivid-sydney-festival/
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 March 2013 15:49 (twelve years ago)
― castle grayscale (wins), Thursday, 31 January 2013 22:55 (1 month ago) Permalink
Garcia also gets a mention in Cockfighter on Tilt.
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 22 March 2013 01:05 (twelve years ago)
"eccentric, asburd"
― ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Friday, 22 March 2013 13:40 (twelve years ago)
still playing this. Also
Another thought I had:ROOMFULLAMICEROOMFULLAMICEROOMFULLAMICEROOMFULLAMICE― ☯ t (wins), Thursday, 7 February 2013 00:49 (2 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ☯ t (wins), Thursday, 7 February 2013 00:49 (2 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
me otm, although that may be the "jazz police" of this album
― "LOL is other people" - Jean-Paul Snarktre (wins), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:43 (twelve years ago)
Some video of the Bish Bosch thingie at the Sydney Opera house:
http://youtu.be/M6gowakwh8A
looks neat!
― mr.raffles, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 13:01 (twelve years ago)
Really hope they do this in the UK. The Sydney opera house thing is free to attend! Any ilxors going?
― too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 13:13 (twelve years ago)
Contrast and compare:
"Take that accidentally in the bollocks for a start", Scott Walker, 'Epizootics!', 2012
"'ere, get this in the bollocks for a start!", Derek & Clive, 'You Cunt', 1976
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Friday, 12 July 2013 09:58 (twelve years ago)
It's all in the detais. Gary Barlow would not have made it so big in a boy band called "Ere, Get this"
― Mark G, Friday, 12 July 2013 11:43 (twelve years ago)
?????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7zXriGjAiM
― Stop the tape I got spittle all over my moustache. (Talcum Mucker), Saturday, 3 August 2013 08:45 (twelve years ago)
"I don't come to where you work and punch your donkey on the streets of Galway."
― 5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, October 5, 2012 3:54 PM (1 year ago)
this might be the most i've ever laughed at a post on ILM. jus sayin.
― piscesx, Saturday, 16 November 2013 02:40 (twelve years ago)
i don't think there's been a point this year where I haven't had this album on some sort of rotation and i'm still noticing new things about it.
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 12:44 (twelve years ago)
...such as?
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 14:20 (twelve years ago)
mostly just little details, layers, a vocal section that i'd not really noticed before. really these albums are such a rollercoaster at first that you don't really take in the scenery - it's all hair-raising twists and turns etc.
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 14:32 (twelve years ago)
gtfo
― Rong Male (wins), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 14:33 (twelve years ago)
hell i still hear shit in "next" i never noticed before
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 15:44 (twelve years ago)
records
― From the Album No Baby for You! (Matt P), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:03 (twelve years ago)
to play fugues on jove's spam castanets
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:06 (twelve years ago)
hell i still hear shit in "next" i never noticed before― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, December 3, 2013 3:44 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, December 3, 2013 3:44 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it just took me this long to realise you weren't talking about the clothes and homes store, Next.
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:08 (twelve years ago)
only stores i talk about are aldi and supreme clientele
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:19 (twelve years ago)
all the naked and the dead should hold each other's hands and watch me scream at night in a dream no one can understand
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 02:18 (twelve years ago)
Always found the imagery on Next too disturbing for comfort, but I just read the lyrics for the first time and boy, it gets pretty Boschian by the end dunnit?
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 09:09 (twelve years ago)
Alex Harvey's take on "Next" annihilates Scotty's version tbh
― Saturated with working class intelligence and not afraid to show it (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 09:11 (twelve years ago)
wow i call ppl bish
― dude-icrous (color definition point of "beyond "color, eg a transient that), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 09:34 (twelve years ago)
Still great. Sometimes it's my favourite.
― wank-bond-villain-looking villain, (dog latin), Monday, 10 March 2014 15:29 (eleven years ago)
... definitely not mine. Just finished one of my periodic attempts to listen to this thing in one sitting and, though it gets easier as it goes along, it's still a chore. I think my main problem is the vocals, which are so loud and monotonous and, too often, give the impression of being plonked on top of the music willy nilly - I'm pretty certain they weren't btw!
― Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Sunday, 29 March 2020 15:22 (five years ago)
As poetry this album is fantastic. As music, I think it ploughs the same furrow as The Drift to much lesser effect. At first it seemed cool, I think that for a lot of fans, the initial magic of getting a new Scott Walker release rubbed off pretty fast. In retrospect, Walker's managing to release a very musically different follow-up (Soused) less than two years later saved him from what might have been a dip in his reputation.
I wonder what the truth is to rumours that Walker had recorded new music before his death, including the songs whose lyrics are included at the end of the Faber & Faber Sundog collection.
― Melomane, Sunday, 29 March 2020 15:27 (five years ago)
I feel like I couldn't hear the music behind the voice tbh.
― Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Sunday, 29 March 2020 15:28 (five years ago)
one of which had a “rap” section iirc xp
― Microbes oft teem (wins), Sunday, 29 March 2020 15:28 (five years ago)
With a bit of distance I'd say the highs of this album (namely 'Epizootics!' and 'Zercon') outweigh the highs of his other albums in terms of ambition and pizzazzle. It's also his most darkly humorous album. Drift is a more sustained listen. Tilt, especially the second side, is the album I go back to more.
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Monday, 30 March 2020 14:14 (five years ago)