1967-1979 WTF - The Hard 'n' Heavy 'n' Loud + Krautrock, Arty, Noisy, Weird, Funky, Punky Shit - Albums Poll! Nominations ! (ends Oct 15)

Ok after some serious discussions.. we have decided to do a rock rather than all-genre poll as a result of the vote in the poll. But we want to do something slightly different.
So we came up with a 1967-1979 'albums that rock poll' With some basically weird and under-appreciated stuff that we combined successfully in the 80s poll.
But there's no way we can replicate the 80s rock poll. But we have a small list* of the types of bands we're after and also there is a spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AumbddEHET5xdEZaQ0paMUZpNEdGeUdRSGRTY3BfV2c#gid=0 that has most of the previous nominations list plus some we came up with to try define what we're after but it is in no way complete.

*Sabbath, Funkadelic ,Pentagram, skotrok, Link Wray, Sonics, Parliament, Throbbing Gristle, Chrome, Neu, Blue Cheer, Silver Apples, Yoko Ono, Hendrix, AC/DC, Residents, Suicide, Pistols, Pere Ubu, Hawkwind,Teenage Jesus & The Jerks, Wire Plus as you will see in the spreadsheet some genres that do kind of get ignored in perhaps more mainstream lists:Prog-Rock (harder kind) Funk, Krautrock, minimalism, the fucking weird avant rock stuff, industrial,N0-wave,proto punk, post-punk, early goth, garage-y rock, heavier psychedelic/spacerock.

What we're not really after are the : Dead or Floyd or Elvis Costello, most singer-songwriter , soft prog, Eagles, Jackson Brown, etc. BUT we decided we might allow a few Floyd albums, a couple of Stones and 1 Springsteen album. But we are after something a bit different from a typical poll.

Why 67? Well a lot of really influential rock came out then and, well, cuz i say so! but hellhouse puts it better

'67 was to include surf, garage, Link Wray, and other "modern" stuff that might otherwise just miss the cut, and kind of avoid the cliched 70s poll feeling.

As hellhouse also said

The 70s have been so done-to-death re: polls that the poll has intentionally taken a turn to the weird and embraced a kind of revisionist but valid hard + funky + weird + noisy birth-o'-modern-rock perspective stretching from 67-79.

I realise to many it will seem to be very arbitrary and bizarre and frankly fucked up. Well, it is. But it should mean the results are different from other polls and at the end of the day, it makes sense to us! So we ask you to play along and join in the fun. Don't have any expectations and nominate anything you think might fit and we will add to the list what does. Don't be upset if you get a knockback but don't be scared to nominate. You do stand a better chance with more obscure albums,as the best thing about the polls are to introduce lesser known gems.
Campaigning on the nominations and voting threads are Key. This helps highlight albums and others will check them out and get voted on.

Nominations will end Next Monday Oct 15 unless others ask for more time as they explore their collections.

Whatever happens it is all down to all the ilxors who vote. You will decide how the poll turns out. But the emphasis should be on what 'rocks'. But clearly some have differing ideas on what rocks. It will be up to you to decide when voting, but we can use this thread to decide the kind of albums you want to vote for and if you purely go for the heaviest albums that will be fine. It will be entirely up to you all to decide how to vote for upto 100 albums. But feel free to use this thread to reach consensus onwhat you think people should vote for plus campaign for albums.
There will be a spotify playlist and balls will be starting a separate tracks poll to go with this (thanks balls for the help!)

And in a final twist .... we think that there should be a 3 album vote limit for a band/artist so to avoid top 10s with the same bands in it like with Sonic Youth in the 80s poll. Do you agree with that or want no limits?

And as requested on the vote thread the subtext can be
'into the void: ilx 67-79 rawk poll - metal, punk, buttrock, acid burnouts, aor and more. rip lester bangs'

we think that there should be a 3 album vote limit for a band/artist so to avoid top 10s with the same bands in it like with Sonic Youth in the 80s poll. Do you agree with that or want no limits?

How do you decide which albums to include? Run a mini-poll?

Sorry, misread that as a 3 album nomination limit. Carry on.

Jobriath - Creatures Of The Street
Comus - First Utterance
Sweet - Desolation Boulevard
Alternative TV - The Image Has Cracked
Radio Birdman - Radios Appear

Can I please ask everyone to check the spreadsheet and the thread before nominating as it makes things much easier for us.

And thanks DSP for remembering to use the bold/capitals format!

no limits!

Sparks - Kimono My House
David Johansen - David Johansen
Penetration - Moving Targets
Crime - San Franciscos's Doomed
The Adverts - Crossing The Red Sea With The Adverts
Chrisma - Chinese Restaurant
Sandy Bull - Demolition Derby
Bootsy's Rubber Band - Ahh...The Name is Bootsy, Baby!

poll specs are v. interesting and exciting and should throw up some wild and wonderful sounds. i totally agree with the 3 album limit and am delighted it has been extended to 1967 as so much music that fits here came out in that period.

here's some. mexico and brazil were most definitely absorbing rock influences from the late 60s onwards and adding their own twist. all of these albums most definitely fit the various required criteria. some are well known, some not but i'd happily evangelise for each and every one of them -

Os Mutantes - Os Mutantes

Secos & Molhados - 1st Album
Rita Lee - Build Up
La Revolución de Emiliano Zapata - ST
Los Dug Dugs - Dug Dugs

Barış Manço - 2023 (1975)
Paul Levinson - Twice Upon A Rhyme (1972)
Friend Sound - Joyride (1969)
Michael Farneti - Good Morning Kisses (1976??)
Pugh Rogefeldt - Ja, Da A Da! (1969)
Terry Manning - Home Sweet Home (1969)
Hackamore Brick - One Kiss Leads to Another (1970)
Arica - Arica (1972)
Robert Lester Folsom - Music and Dreams

I just read the bit about including '67+ Surf/Garage stuff. I would love to learn more of that shit! Brilliant idea.

The stuff I have not heard I will need to trust you all that it fits the criteria. But someone will still likely check them out to be sure!

Las Grecas - Gipsy Rock
International Harvester - Sov Gott Rose Marie
Parson Sound - s/t
Red Crayola - Parable of Arable Land
Le Stelle di Mario Schifano - Dedicato a...
Thirteenth Floor Elevators - Easter Everywhere
Bobak, Jons, Malone - Motherlight
Taj Mahal Travellers - August 1974
Ya Ho Wha 13 - Penetration: An Aquarian Symphony
Jefferson Airplane - Volunteers
United States of America - s/t
Os Mutantes - s/t
Los Macs - Kaleidoscope Men
Love - Da Capo

Are these 3 rock? well, there's no guitars but the noise & energy blast that is the Brötzmann is balls out rock. Albert Ayler's rhythm section is definitely rocking out on this record - check the track "Heart Love" which is a proto-funk freak out. And Berrocal,well, it contains "Rock n' roll station" which "defines" what a rock and roll station might be and features Vince Taylor who was a British rock god.

Peter Brötzmann Octet ‎– Machine Gun
Albert Ayler - New Grass
Jacques Berrocal ‎– Parallèles

Here & Now - Give and Take
Eddie & The Hot Rods - Teenage Depression
Marianne Faithfull - Broken English

i see miss faithfull didn't make it from the last time. she should. this record is c**t rock.

bah!

Here & Now - Give and Take
Eddie & The Hot Rods - Teenage Depression
Marianne Faithfull - Broken English

sorry for double nomming the Os Mutantes

Machine Gun has to be in here!

Top Drawer - Song of A Sinner

(late 60s Christian rock that might have been trying to save your soul but was space psyche rocking you out of your mind in the process)

High Tide - Sea Shanties
Igor Wakhevitch - Docteur Faust
Univers Zero - Heresie
This Heat - This Heat
Airway - Live at LACE
Peter Hammill - In Camera

i know what you mean about machine gun and the ayler. dunno the latter.

need to ask the thread about the marianne faithful

The Desperate Bicycles - Remorse Code
Thomas Leer & Robert Rental - The Bridge
Agitation Free - Malesch
Cabaret Voltaire ‎– Mix-Up

i can imagine all 4 of these being contentious but they just about fit the criteria and hey, steve albini likes at least three of them.

again.

The Desperate Bicycles - Remorse Code
Thomas Leer & Robert Rental - The Bridge
Agitation Free - Malesch
Cabaret Voltaire ‎– Mix-Up

Agitation free are great

come on stirmonster i know you liked 70s heavy metal so nominate some!Stop just trying to be cool ;)

ha! i'm getting there. i have a very long list i am double checking. i didn't want to post them all in one huge blast.

i really appreciate the existence of this experiment but i don't have the energy for this part of it
or this part
Campaigning on the nominations and voting threads are Key

I am going to count on y'all to do the heavy lifting for me and I will chime in when I have the opportunity, ie infrequently but enthusiastically.

Carry on...

Ted Nugent - Cat Scratch Fever
Montrose - Montrose
Budgie - Bandolier
Mountain - Nantuckeet Sleighride
UFO - Lights Out
Samson - Survivors (i actually haven't listened to this since about 1981 but hey, it features Bruce Dickinson)

Brian Bennet - Voyage
Richard Schneider Jr.- Dreamlike land
Emmanuelle Parrenin - Maison Rose
Jeff Liberman -Solitude Within

Mountain - Nantucket Sleighride

typo removed.

doing nominations in one big blast is great for us tho, much easier to copy and paste.

Miles Davis - Dark Magus
Miles Davis - Big Fun
Miles Davis - Get Up With It

If you don't like Big Fun I will save it for my therapist!

I love this ! The Thread is barely an hour old and already there are 10 albums I want to check out.

Dark Magus was already on the spreadsheet from the last time,

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AumbddEHET5xdEZaQ0paMUZpNEdGeUdRSGRTY3BfV2c#gid=0

I went through it and missed it sorry.

last for me for tonight.

Peter Baumann ‎– Romance 76
Kevin Coyne ‎– Marjory Razorblade
Kevin Ayers ‎– Bananamour
The Electric Prunes - Underground
Vanilla Fudge - Renaissance
Nazz - Nazz
Blue Cheer ‎– Vincebus Eruptum

Cabaret Voltaire - Mix Up
Chrome - Alien Soundtracks
Chrome - Half Machine Lip Moves
Circle X - s/t
DAF - Ein Produkt der Deutsch-Amerikanischen Freundschaft
Germs - G.I.
Negative Trend - s/t
Neu! - s/t
Silver Apples - Contact
Silver Apples - Silver Apples
Sleepers - s/t EP
Throbbing Gristle - First Annual Report

A Certain Ratio - The Graveyard And The Ballroom
The Electric Eels - God Says Fuck You
Nara Leão - Dez Anos Depois
Peggy Lee - Mirrors (weird and neglected.i wont cry if it gets canned)
Yellow Magic Orchestra - Solid State Survivor
Henry Cow - In Praise Of Learning

Tonto's Exploding Head Band - Zero Time

Las Grecas, exhibit 1:

http://youtu.be/5tB0n0YUdnw

i just cant see YMO fitting, as great as they are

powerful singing + cracking lead guitar = rock

(xp)

we're not allowing anything past the 1st 2 Kraftwerk and the 1st 4 Tangerine Dream(ie no phaedra). And if we did that would open a can of worms.

lol oh yeah:

ABBA - Waterloo
ABBA - ABBA

gotta add this one

Magma - Mekanïk Destruktïw Kommandöh

mdk is already in. abba can gtf

I can see the s/t even though it has Hey Hey Helen, but Waterloo legitimately rocks the fuck out

Grand Funk Railroad - Closer to Home
Canned Heat - Future Blues
Status Quo - Piledriver
Focus - Moving Waves
Silberbart - 4 Times Sound Razing
Hairy Chapter - Can't Get Through
Coven - Witchcraft Destroys Minds & Reaps Souls
Chico Magnetic Band - Chico Magnetic Band
Edgar Broughton Band - Sing Brother Sing

hmmm didnt see it listed

rock:

http://youtu.be/jUt_Hn6zW6w

rock:

http://youtu.be/SscyDP8qxCg

rock:

http://youtu.be/t1lKVjAWHo8

rock (kind of):

http://youtu.be/92L6balksi8

Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced
Jimi Hendrix Experience - Axis: Bold as Love
Jimi Hendrix Experience - Electric Ladyland
Link Wray and his Raymen - There’s Good Rockin’ Tonight
Residents - Meet the Residents
Sonics - Introducing the Sonics
Steve Reich - Drumming
Steve Reich - Four Organs: Phase Patterns
Teenage Jesus and the Jerks - Live at Max’s Kansas City 1977
Teenage Jesus and the Jerks - s/t
Throbbing Gristle - The Second Annual Report
V/A - No New York
Yoko Ono - Fly

I thought I nominated Fly. Either way, that album rules!

Brainticket - Cottonwoodhill
Algarnas Tradgard - Framtiden Ar Ett Svavande Skepp, Forankrat I Forntiden **

** i removed the swedish umlauts just in case

Herbie Mann - Memphis Underground
Frank Zappa - Hot Rats

I think this counts if Ulmer is in? What's your call, AG?:

Ornette Coleman - Dancing in Your Head

Also, that's a joke about "Waterloo" being hard and heavy rock, right?

i dont even know anymore

Santana - Abraxas
El Chicano - Revolucion
Azteca - Azteca
WAR - The World Is a Ghetto
Barrabas - Wild Safari
The Wild Magnolias - The Wild Magnolias

Santana - s/t

Pink Floyd - Ummagumma

ok this is my last nomination
Gary Wilson - You Think You Really Know Me
Donnie and Joe Emerson - Dreamin' Wild
Mayo Thompson - Corky's Debt to His Father
Dr John - Gris Gris
Popol Vuh - Hosianna Mantra
Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
Laser Pace - Granfalloon
Dark - Round The Edges
Q 65 - Revolution
Fraser & Debolt - with Ian Guenther

Black Flag - Nervous Breakdown
Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band - Safe as Milk
Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band - Strictly Personal
Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band - Trout Mask Replica
Gary Numan & the Tubeway Army - Replicas
Philip Glass - Music With Changing Parts
Philip Glass/Bang on a Can - Music in Fifths/Two Pages
Robert Rental & The Normal - Live at West Runton Pavilion, 6/3/79

i was going to nominate robert rental & the normal but wasn't sure if it was eligible as it was released in 1980.

waht? @ Philip Glass

AG

strike the following:

Philip Glass/Bang on a Can - Music in Fifths/Two Pages

I fucked up on the recording date, which is too bad b/c these are relentless, seething works, edgier than any other Glass I've heard.

I think you're nuts for expanding this to '67, more hippie/psych/surf/garage nonsense to sift thru on top of an already ridiculously fecund period but w/e

And in a final twist .... we think that there should be a 3 album vote limit for a band/artist so to avoid top 10s with the same bands in it like with Sonic Youth in the 80s poll. Do you agree with that or want no limits?

think this is a good idea in theory but in practice makes ballot-making even more difficult, plus the vote-tallier does what with violaters? maybe better for you to suggest this as a guideline for voters so the results aren't littered with 1 or 2 bands.

Modern Lovers - s/t
Blondie - Parallel Lines
NRBQ - At Yankee Stadium
Kinks - Something Else
Tim Buckley - Greetings From L.A.
Moby Grape - s/t
Heart - Little Queen
Jeff Beck - Truth
Buffalo Springfield - Again
B-52's - s/t
Dennis Wilson - Pacific Ocean Blue
Nick Lowe - Jesus of Cool (a.k.a. Pure Pop for Now People)
Rod Stewart - Every Picture Tells a Story
Meat Loaf - Bat Out Of Hell

^ (i'll come up with some more off-the-beaten path picks later)

ok we have decided the 60s are OUT. no minimalism.

and no blondie or talking heads or nick lowe

infact fuck this thread. someone lock it. i'll start yet another one later

closed

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1970-1979 WTF - The Hard 'n' Heavy 'n' Loud + Krautrock, Arty, Noisy, Weird, Funky, Punky Shit - Albums Poll! Nominations ! (ends Oct 15)