1970-1979 WTF - The Hard 'n' Heavy 'n' Loud + Krautrock, Arty, Noisy, Weird, Funky, Punky Shit - Albums Poll! Nominations ! (ends Oct 17 you slack bastards - jjjusten edit)

I'm not gonna go into it but some co-runners really just wanted a 70s poll, and one that sticks to rocking. soI've given in to them so now we have this. Sorry if it annoys anyone.

So krautrock and arty stuff is ok but it has to rock.
So 1st 2 Kraftwerk is ok, 1st Tangerine Dream is ok (if its a 70s album i forget)

The spreadsheet is still here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AumbddEHET5xdEZaQ0paMUZpNEdGeUdRSGRTY3BfV2c#gid=0 and i will remove the 60s stuff later. If you guys can help me by telling me what is from the 60s that would be great.

,kraut,arty,prog will still count but it has to rock. The others think we need to be strict on that so we will.
Im putting my foot down and allowing all guitar based funk though. Bootsy,isleys,pfunk.

No folk, singer songwriter stuff.

If that disappoints some im sorry.

If everyone can nominate in this format
Funkadelic - Maggot Brain
Television - Marquee Moon ie in bold with 1st letters capitalised that helps with tabulating etc.

And i retain this from the other thread
I realise to many it will seem to be very arbitrary and bizarre and frankly fucked up. Well, it is. But it should mean the results are different from other polls and at the end of the day, it makes sense to us! So we ask you to play along and join in the fun. Don't have any expectations and nominate anything you think might fit and we will add to the list what does. Don't be upset if you get a knockback but don't be scared to nominate. You do stand a better chance with more obscure albums,as the best thing about the polls are to introduce lesser known gems.
Campaigning on the nominations and voting threads are Key. This helps highlight albums and others will check them out and get voted on.

Nominations will end Next Monday Oct 15 unless others ask for more time as they explore their collections.

Whatever happens it is all down to all the ilxors who vote. You will decide how the poll turns out. But the emphasis should be on what 'rocks'. But clearly some have differing ideas on what rocks. It will be up to you to decide when voting, but we can use this thread to decide the kind of albums you want to vote for and if you purely go for the heaviest albums that will be fine. It will be entirely up to you all to decide how to vote for upto 100 albums. But feel free to use this thread to reach consensus on what you think people should vote for plus campaign for albums.
There will be a spotify playlist and balls will be starting a separate tracks poll to go with this (thanks balls for the help!)

And in a final twist .... we think that there should be a 3 album vote limit for a band/artist so to avoid top 10s with the same bands in it like with Sonic Youth in the 80s poll. Do you agree with that or want no limits?

woah woah why the change?

jk, i'm the punk responsible for this clusterfuck

Thanks, dude.

so any annoyance or eyerolling direct my way. for ppl worried a similar thing will be done for 60s, not soon after this one don't worry, probably sometime during romney's first term

full discretion and veto power w/ ag but for guidance you must rock this hard to ride this ride:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXrIiE06wUQ

id hope things rock more than that..

oh and were back to one Stones album - Exile. One Floyd - animals. One Springsteen - Darkness On The Edge Of Town. Bowie gets Aladdin sane and ziggy

yeah i'll be doing the tracks poll and i'm really hoping to see alot of tracks that would qualify from artists/albums that really don't qualify for albums poll (not restricting it to that mind you, you can still vote for 'supernaut' don't worry, just saying if you wanted to nominate goodbye yellow brick road on the basis that some of it really does rawk well it's gonna get vetoed here i bet but in tracks poll 'all the girls love alice' and 'saturday's alright for fighting' could totally get in). also for big canonical artists ag has quarantined - stones bowie floyd boss - i will consider only tracks/singles NOT on those albums listed above and tbh for springsteen you're gonna have to remind me what tracks could possibly qualify. i'll be fairly catholic there and esp friendly to hard rock moves/gestures by not normally rocking artists. so if ag vetoes it cherrypick the most shredding cut and it probably makes my poll.

The spreadsheet has been taken back to an earlier version so a lot of stuff nominated is no longer on it. Quite a bit of it is no longer eligible.
So please everyone check the spreadsheet before nominating plus make sure it fits the new criteria.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AumbddEHET5xdEZaQ0paMUZpNEdGeUdRSGRTY3BfV2c#gid=0

also i will start tracks poll nomination thread and 'rules', etc tomorrow so don't just list them here. and now i sleep.

Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per Un Amico
Sir Lord Baltimore - Kingdom Come
A.R. & Machines - Echo
A.R. & Machines - A.R. IV
SBB ‎– Nowy Horyzont
La Dusseldorf - ST
P.F.M. - Chocolate Kings
King Crimson - Red
Van der Graaf Generator - Still Life
Üç Hürel - Üç Hürel Arşivi
Walter Wegmuller - Tarot
Twink - Think Pink
Amon Duul II - Yeti
Michael Rother - Sterntaler
Sensations Fix - Fragments of Light
Sensations' Fix - ST
Erkin Koray - Erkin Koray 2
Erkin Koray - ElektronikTuerkueler
Steve Hillage - Fish Rising
Le Orme - Felona e Sorona
Selda - Selda

oh, sorry, didn't see the spreadsheet

can i get :

Devo - Q: Are we not men ? A: We Are Devo

put back into the spreadsheet please, as it surely must qualify - even under the new rules ?

i think it got eliminated by accident cuz it was in there twice, i'm sure ag will catch as it certainly qualifies

also: Lookin For Some Hot Stuff: ILX 70s RAWK Tracks Poll - Metal, Buttrock, Punk, AOR, and More NOMINATIONS THREAD (nomination period closes 17OCT12)

70's Ocrilim:

Mike Oldfield - Hergest Ridge

Stray- Stray
T2- It'll All Work Out In Boomland
Lucifer's Friend- Lucifer's Friend
Randy Holden- Population II
Groundhogs- Thank Christ For The Bomb
Night Sun- Mournin'
Buffalo- Volcanic Rock
Granicus- Granicus

Been away for a few days so I've missed a lot of the discussion about this poll. I've had a look through and would like to nominate
Ash Ra Tempel - Ash Ra Tempel

Note sure if it's eligible but if it is I'd like this one too.
Roy Harper - Stormcock

Oh wait, think the "No folk, singer songwriter stuff." stipulation has fucked my Roy Harper nomination. Shame, that album rawks!!

Not sure if this is the best Ray Russell nom, but it's the only one I've heard. 50% free-ish jazz and 50% out guitar maelstrom:

Ray Russell - Secret Asylum

(if there were a tracks poll I'd be repping hard for Stained Angel Morning)

Oh there is a tracks poll.

Everything I post on this thread is going to be followed up by a correction btw.

Bolder Damn - Mourning
Randy Holden - Population II
Laser Pace - Granfaloon

I only just discovered Laser Pace the other day from Scott's thread so it is his indirect contribution. Laser Pace - Granfalloon (Takoma - 1974) Wow!

This thread title is going to bring a lot of fans of teenage Marc Maron

Truth & Janey- No Rest For The Wicked

ok these have disappeared from the noms spreadsheet - they rock.
Lula Côrtes e Zé Ramalho - Paêbirú
osanna - milano calibro 9
osanna - palepoli
il balletto di bronzo - ys
museo rosenbach - zarathustra
the red crayola - soldier talk
The Hampton Grease Band - music to eat
Glenn Phillips - lost at sea
Kennelmus - folkstone prism

also - you need to lose one pere ubu "dub housing" from the spreadsheet - there are two entries.
new noms:
the girls - live at the rathskeller 5.17.79
dickies - the incredible shrinking dickies
red rhodes - velvet hammer in a cowboy band
univeria zekt - the unnamables
and if tangerine dream gets in, the surely, we should by all rights be able to vote for:
popol vuh - in den gärten pharaos
IMO that n the Tange noms really do not "rock" at all, but maybe indeed be thought of as "heavy"
make of that what you will ! will we see a wave of cluster & asmus tietchens noms now?

Another missing one:

ZZ Top - Tres Hombres

ha, that didn't last long, though I'm not surprised. you should actually remove this:

Residents - Meet the Residents

I'm not sure about everything else, but I'm glad we're back to limiting it to the 70s, even if decades seem arbitrary. Actually the late 60s seem a lot less like the beginning of the 70s than late 70s feel like the beginning of the 80s, to me anyway.

(Or maybe the 80s started early and the 70s started late. Talking strictly musically here, obviously.)

So half of my nominations were disqualified?

Some 60s stuff still on the spreadsheet:

Led Zeppelin I
Soft Machine - Volumes I and II

Simply Saucer - Cyborgs Revisited

and King Crimson - Red is on there twice.

some of those Jimi albums need removing

Here's my noms from the other thread without weirdo arty folk records, only the ones that rock
Gary Wilson - You Think You Really Know Me
Donnie and Joe Emerson - Dreamin' Wild
Mayo Thompson - Corky's Debt to His Father
Laser Pace - Granfalloon
Dark - Round The Edges
Michael Farneti - Good Morning Kisses
Hackamore Brick - One Kiss Leads to Another
Jeff Liberman -Solitude Within
Barış Manço - 2023

From now on any albums that are nominated in the wrong format I will just ignore. Please capitalise the 1st letter of each word. It makes it easier to catch duplicates and wont muck up tabulating.
Also please look at spreadsheet before nominating.

Cheers Jacob, added them.

The second spreadsheet, not the first?

Gotta have some Hawkwind in here.

its the same one.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AumbddEHET5xdEZaQ0paMUZpNEdGeUdRSGRTY3BfV2c#gid=0

Just a few more now that I better understand this poll
Song - Song
Michael Quatro - Dancers, Romancers, Dreamers & Schemers
Leaf Hound - Growers of Mushroom
Glass Harp - Glass Harp
The Gentrys - The Gentrys

Because the group Song is sort of unsearchable here's their RAWK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX69WL6-tgw

please dont embed youtubes. Makes threads unwieldy for some

Gotta have some Hawkwind in here.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau)

According to the spreadsheet pretty much every Hawkwind album made in the 70s has been nommed.

remember folks its a harder rock poll not soft rock. The others are strict about wanting that.

Karlheinz Stockhausen - Stop/Ylem

@JacobSanders: yeah i love that mayo thompson LP but i don't see how it (or tange dream , or my own popol vuh nom) cut it here, couldn't rightfully say it "rocks".
however, not my call, and i do salute you wholheartedly for your valour in bringing it to the table, good sir !

Cosmic Jokers - Cosmic Jokers

Tubeway Army - Tubeway Army

Embryo - We Keep On

Catapilla - s/t

is that made up?

nope, heavy jamming brit prog rock with a jazzed up brass section, crunchy guitar and a female vocalist on vertigo. robert calvert was in them (the gong guy not the hawkwind dude), produced by black sabbath's manager apparently!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-02v3AXWb0XU/TozNoTytIVI/AAAAAAAAAik/Y12JUJ93HUA/s320/Catapilla.jpg

^ from 1971

fair enough

will accept more noms until seandalai sets up the forms incase there's important stuff left out someone might want to vote for.

Please look through the list and make sure that the bands listed have all the 'right' albums listed as in the 80s poll some said the albums they wanted to vote for by a band weren't there but ones they didn't want to vote for were.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AumbddEHET5xdEZaQ0paMUZpNEdGeUdRSGRTY3BfV2c#gid=0

I accidentally nominated a couple of things twice (Mick Farren, Contortions)(the latter which can be found under 'James Chance & the Contortions)

also
Bruce Palmer - The Cycle is Complete
Paul Kantner - Sunfighter

did the Syd Barrett albums ever get nom'd?

Thats a good point. Is Syd allowed in?

Nah, I love him, but no.

Ok started a collaborative Spotify playlist with Hellhouse yesterday
Please subscribe:
http://open.spotify.com/user/pfunkboy/playlist/1rFbtUwZlcYHBD6gcemMeK

Please add your nominations or whatever you notice isn't on there from the nominations list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AumbddEHET5xdEZaQ0paMUZpNEdGeUdRSGRTY3BfV2c#gid=0

The Drones - Further Temptations
Demics - Talk's Cheap
The Diodes - s/t
Teenage Head - s/t
The Huns - Live at the Palladium 1979
Legionaire's Disease ‎– Catch The Disease
The Plugz - Electrify Me
The ‎Bags – All Bagged Up: The Collected Works 1977-1980
The Dils - Dils Dils Dils
The Nuns - Gimme Danger
Smegma - Glamour Girl 1941
The Deadbeats - Live at the Whiskey 1978
Good Rats - Tasty
Good Rats - Ratcity in Blue

^ mostly canadian + LA punk

The Guess Who - American Woman

eh why not

Coum Transmissions - The Sound Of Porridge Bubbling
Coum Transmissions - Sugarmorphoses

xp Listening to Procol Harum again and no, it doesn't really rock, so I probably won't vote for it despite my nom. Neither does most funk and soul other than Funkadelic and perhaps a couple by Temptations, Sly Stone and Curtis Mayfield - Curtis Mayfield. I see Cluster and Harmonia are excluded, which I agree with, as should be the Residents.

The Nuns- Decadent Jew

don't sleep on Mandrill, Fastnbulbous

as should be the Residents.

Third Reich & Roll doesn't rock? When did Curtis Mayfield rock?

Two funk records that Rock
Jade ‎– In Pursuit
Hot Chocolate - Hot Chocolate

Jade ‎– In Pursuit
Hot Chocolate - Hot Chocolate

The Nuns- Decadent Jew

― stirmonster, Thursday, October 18, 2012 2:13 PM (54 minutes ago)

was this meant for tracks?

jjj if you're around please check email

btw i added that nom to the list but will change it if stirmonster posts

I'll have to re-listen to some Mandrill. Anyone have anything to say about Eddie Hazel -- Game, Dames, & Guitar Thangs? Thinking of pickin up the CD for that and Debris - Static Disposal.

its awesome

but i would say that

btw the best Mandrill album Is isnt on spotify but i urge everyone to hear it..

there's no nuns album called decadent jew afaik but that was their first 7"

if you're okay w/ nomming 7"s there are a couple hundred more worthy punk singles to nom

no thats for the tracks poll. I'll remove it.

Are we nominating eps?
the nerves - s/t

How many tracks on it? Some ep's are for the tracks poll some are mini-albums therefore for here

xp How awesome? Top 50 awesome? Better than Cosmic Slop awesome? Use your words!

ok the eddie hazel album sounds like a funkadelic album from the mid period. (the period eddie mostly wrote).

btw The Mutiny album is as good as the mid-period funkadelic albums too. (Its jerome brailey)

mid period funkadelic is largely seen by fans as the best because its basically eddie hazel contributing the most.

Where does the middle period begin and end?

(Funkadelic has 15 albums! I only know a few.)

http://www.duke.edu/~tmc/motherpage/discog-funkadelic.html

Are we nominating eps?
the nerves - s/t

― BlackIronPrison, Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:06 PM (23 minutes ago)

How many tracks on it? Some ep's are for the tracks poll some are mini-albums therefore for here

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:08 PM (20 minutes ago)

the general guideline I've been using for my noms is: 7"s are out even if it's an EP, but 12" EPs are ok, however 12" singles (i.e. 2 songs) are out. generally speaking 12" EPs meant it wouldn't fit on a 7", especially for punk stuff. does that work for you AG?

in this case, the nerves s/t 7" would be out, but there is a compilation of everything they did in the 70s so

Nerves, The - One Way Ticket

I'd say about half the punk stuff I've nominated is retrospective single compilations of stuff done in the 70s.

which reminds me, can you remove black flag's nervous breakdown and replace with these?

Black Flag - The First Four Years
Black Flag - Everything Went Black

ok

also please add Plastic Ono Band, which is from late 1970, not '69 as suggested somewhere above

the good one btw, not John's

thx AG

does that 7"/12" approach work for you? not that it matters much since noms are closing soon.

xp

yeah i think its a good one

Whoops, I didn't realize the EP rule. Could you remove Desperate Bicycles - New Cross, New Cross and replace it with Desperate Bicycles - Another Commercial Venture which is a more complete collection anyway.

if you're okay w/ nomming 7"s there are a couple hundred more worthy punk singles to nom

sorry. thread confusion. the nerves was meant for the tracks poll

I think that shop is closed

it is indeed. i'l put my name down for a "best Nerves song missing from the ILX 70s RAWK Tracks Poll" poll instead.

also please add Plastic Ono Band, which is from late 1970, not '69 as suggested somewhere above

sorry, I don't know wtf I was thinking.

oh no sweat wk. if it doesn't make the cut i'll just throw 'why' a few more handfuls of points on the tracks poll.

While we wait on voting form please subscribe to the albums playlist http://open.spotify.com/user/pfunkboy/playlist/1rFbtUwZlcYHBD6gcemMeK

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